posted on March 14, 2001 03:15:50 PM new
A place where unwanted babies could be dumped for recycling into new wanted babies. It's being done in various places already, and with the new tons of money available to faith based welfare organizations it would seem like an ideal time to begin. A German example is in the link http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/babydrop000705.html.
It's sorta' like the dog pound, except in this type of program it would hopefully be awhile before the places have to resort to euthenasia days.
posted on March 14, 2001 03:20:29 PM new
There was a law passed, I think it's only a New York state law, that allows a woman to drop off a baby at a hospital no questions asked and no legal consequences to her at all.
posted on March 14, 2001 03:21:32 PM new
There is something similar to that. In some cities a woman can drop her baby off at a hospital with no questions asked, and not be subject to abandonment charges. I believe it has to be done within the first 48 hours of the baby being born.
posted on March 14, 2001 03:24:21 PM new
Hi James - didn't see your post. It was being talked about in Minnesota too, I'm not sure if it's been passed yet or not.
posted on March 14, 2001 03:26:14 PM new
Then what? Auction the children off, like the case of the twins, to the highest bidder. (For supplimenting all that cash to raise them, of course).
Some people cant adopt. They have the love, ability, kindness, caring, desire for a child. Might not be rich, and might not own their own home, but they do have the other "needs". Unless they have lots of money, its a no go.
posted on March 14, 2001 03:31:42 PM new
Sad that the language used to describe human children relates to garbage and animals. (not an attack on you, krs)
Abortion is euthanasia on children that haven't been born yet.
It's only a matter of time euthanasia will be practiced legally.
Yes, we have the no-questions-asked baby drop here in New York. But just last week there were reports on the news about how it's not working -- a conclusion connected to the recent discovery of two murdered newborns (separate instances) in NYC. Speculation was that not enough potential abandoning mothers know about the program. Proposed solution: advertising.
posted on March 14, 2001 04:06:46 PM new
There is a law like that in Florida. Newborns may be dropped off with no questions asked at Hospitals, Fire Station (& Police Stations also, I believe) within 3 days of birth.
posted on March 14, 2001 07:32:43 PM new
Michigan recently started such a law and has already had one child dropped off. You can contest it if you come back within a certain period - a day I think.
They figured it was better than finding them in dumpsters which was getting to be pretty common.
[ edited by gravid on Mar 14, 2001 07:33 PM ]
posted on March 14, 2001 09:32:19 PM new
I don't believe that most mothers abandon or abort their children
because it's "convenient." Poverty is the cause of their desperation.
Mothers should not be forced to dump their children in a
country that gives the wealthy a 40% tax break.
I believe that every child born in this country should be assured
of basic needs; food, housing, medical care and education.
posted on March 14, 2001 09:45:35 PM new
"I believe that every child born in this country should be assured
of basic needs; food, housing, medical care and education."
I agree with you, HJW.
In most instances, Social Services will help to provide for these children.
Many of the mothers that abandon their newborn babies have kept their pregnancy a secret and do so out of fear and desperation, not necessarily out of poverty. Many of the so-called baby-dumpers are young mothers.
My italics never work!
[ edited by debbielennon on Mar 14, 2001 09:55 PM ]
posted on March 15, 2001 08:05:15 AM new
Isnt that the truth, HJW. Sad, isnt it. Poor people can raise children as well as rich people. In fact, poor people might have more to offer since they rely on love more than money. Value more than wealth. Desire to better themselves and their children to do the same more than prestige. But, unless you have money, and lots of it, as well as a retainer of lawyers and hoops to jump thru, those cozy kitchens with clean but well mended drapes, handmade doilies, mismatched table chairs and warmth abounding throughout the whole house will never hear the patter of little feet that belong to someone up for adoption. Even black cannot adopt white, or vice versa. Love has a label and a price tag, and the ones who lose out are the people who want children, and the children who want parents.
Reminds me of a woman that I know with lot's of money. Her kid
was involved in drugs. While she was in England the kid went
a little wild and she had to return to the US
She locked the kid out of the house and told me,
"I don't have the staff to handle that kind of behavior."
So, you are so right. Money doesn't guarantee love.
posted on March 15, 2001 08:55:01 AM new
Its amazing what couples have to go through in order to adopt. I was adopted. My parents told me about all the home studies, counciling, jump through hoops, and not to mention the money. The only thing with the drop-off babies is that I hope they get alot of info from the mother such as medical history, nationality, etc... When that baby grows up BELIEVE me they might have questions. My parents are wonderful. They raised me the best they could and I love them to death. But I do have alot of questions and would like to meet my Birthmother. My parents understand and respect that. They told me that at a very early age if someday I want to search for her they would support me. A week ago I got my Birthname and my mothers maiden name!!! I'm really excited about this. Now on medical history, I got nothing. The agency just said that the family seems in good health and that my greatgrandparents died of a heart attack. Now back in 1970, there wasn't much thought of whats genetic and whats not. I hate going to the doctor and them asking me about my family medical history. I DON'T KNOW!
Sorry, I'm ranting.....
Anyways, I think it is important for as much Medical history as possible from the birthmother amoungst other things. I just went through a precancerous scare and that was the 1st words coming from my doctor, idf any of my family members have it. *sigh*
Judy
[ edited by cyanide on Mar 15, 2001 08:56 AM ]
posted on March 15, 2001 09:05:49 AM new
I have far more respect for the mother who knows she is not capable of raising a child and drops the infant off at the hospitol than the ones who keep them and give them nothing..no love, no guidance , no self respect. I'm not talking about impovershed parents, maybe spiritually impoverished, I have seen this at all ends of the economic ladder.
I worked in daycare for a while and some of the little broken spirits I saw just tore my heart out. Some of these children would have been better left at the church door and given to adopted parents who would have jumped through all the hoops the government sticks out to get them.
