posted on January 30, 2002 11:46:13 AM new
I just want to encourage you sellers and buyers to give Bidville another chance.
There are new sellers there, and some really nice offerings in collectibles, sports cards, etc. The prices are better than you'll find anywhere else on the internet, and a larger selection every day! I'm not saying everything listed is valuable, but you can find some really good deals and reputable dealers.
I'm not a BV cheerleader, I don't visit the boards, but I do think it's a great place to buy and sell. And you can't beat the prices!
posted on January 30, 2002 12:19:16 PM new
I listed about 25 things a couple of weeks ago after a bit of a lull. I was one of the very first sellers, or should I say listers when BV started. I did sell a 2.50 item, but a lot of my stuff, which is good quality, but not expensive hasn't even been looked at. I really wish it would take off, as a Canadian I am no longer allowed to sell on Yahoo, and I thing BV would be a great alternative, but I don't even know if it's worth paying the verification fees, I'm trying to decide.
posted on January 31, 2002 08:53:47 PM new
If you are not a commons sports card seller, you will be wasting your time. Real items don't sell there. If you do sell the cards, than that is the place for you. I just wish they would come out and say they are the sports cards site to be at. That is their niche. I have had items there for nearly a year with only a hand full of sales. I actually went back to Yahoo before the listing fee reduction and sold more there in two weeks than I did all year at bidville. I have left my auctions there to run out after the relists end, I will be done there.
Hope you have better luck there than I did, and if you sell commons sports cards, you will.
bp
posted on February 1, 2002 03:12:39 AM new
barparts: maybe if you didn't try to pass broken items as in good condition, I would have bought more from you. I have lots of time and money to spend on auctions, but I'm no sucker. If I want to throw my money away I have two teenagers, I'll give it to them
Yes! There are about 540,000 sportscards on BidVille. 340,000 books. But apparently, people buy them. I know I love getting my books from there. Good prices, and none of that "vintage paperback" crap you get on ebay from their sellers.
I made a couple of hundred dollars during the Clearance Sale, and many others did well too. I met some nice new buyers and even shipped to an overseas (Italy) address for the first time. Sure sellers buy from sellers frequently at BidVille..but..check peoples feedback at Yahoo and ebay ..you will see they buy as well as sell. I would estimate a minimum of 95% do anyway.
Everyone is entitled to dislike or love their site of choice. But constantly whining because your junk won't sell because it's junk is kind of childish.
posted on February 1, 2002 08:53:26 AM new"...and none of that "vintage paperback" crap.."
OUCH! some of those vintage paperbacks are quite collectible and valuable. I've sold some of that crap for upwards of $75.
====back on topic====
I have not verified my membership, and I doubt that I will. Back when the adult section was added, all that was required to enter the area was to register a cc and no fee was required, so I simply don't understand why a fee should be required now.
Sure five bucks is chump change, but I don't believe an venue should require folks to pay for the privelege of spending their money.
I have been a member for nearly a year, my feedback is perfect, I have consistantly had auctions listed, yet when I tried to bid on three auctions during the clearance sale from three different sellers my bids were blocked from each because they don't accept bids from unverified bidders. I wrote to each asking to have the block removed, only one responded saying, "I've checked your stats, you have an excellent record of buying/selling, but unfortunatly without being verified, I simply cannot take a chance on you because you only have one recent feedback and without verification, you may be a deadbeat."
Not a very friendly or professional reply, and kind of insulting, but at least they did respond. So I only one recent feedback, well gee, I'm sorry I've only had one sale on bidville in nearly 5 months, but that hardly makes me a high risk bidder. (Kodi-please note this is not childish whining-merely stating a fact, my sales are brisk on every other venue I use)
I suppose this post will be considered a bashing of bidville, but it's not, I try to be neutral, fair and rational with my opinions (although this is a admittedly slightly biased based on recent experiences). I would love to see bv turn itself around and remain a viable venue for me to sell on, but frankly I don't see that happening anytime in the near future.
This was the type of situation that I was worried about when Bidville started the verification and would allow sellers to block unverified bidders. If this type of action is rampant, I could foresee it running off many potential bidders. I do wish I knew why there is so much concern about having a deadbeat bidder on Bidville among many sellers. The professional auction seller knows that you are going to get some deadbeats, regardless of verification or ratings. This just goes with the territory. I would rather have the occasional deadbeat than a signficant restriction on bidders. In fact, I have more non-paying bidders with people with some established feedback record than the brand new bidder.
posted on February 1, 2002 11:29:15 AM new
Kodi, I checked out your Yahoo Auctions ( easily findable due to the www.feedbacksite.com logo ) and while ago and you were doing great there yet only so-so at BV in comparison. Why cheerlead for the so-so site and never a mention of Yahoo where you are/were doing great? Just curious.
posted on February 1, 2002 01:27:04 PM new
LOL!! I'm sorry robnzak..let me clarify that to say that I do not think a book from 1982, even though it is 20 years old is a "vintage paperback". I do buy "vintage paperback" Westerns for my father quite often. He likes Zane Gray and Louis Lamour.
Well bidsbids, I thought we were talking about BidVille is why. I can also clarify my statement about BidVille with this; I don't sell doodly squat unless a sale is going on. I am not a BV cheerleader alot these days. I think the Prez may be getting ready to give up. There are all kinds of plugs for other auction sites on the boards these days, he used to delete them. Maybe he knows we will be homeless soon.LOL!
Yahoo is my site of choice, I have been a Yahoo user since I got online in 1998. I do pretty good there, yep. I still list on ebay too, but like others I am put off by their ever increasing fee's. If I want to get a decent amount of money for something I usually put it on ebay. I do try to list some collectibles etc on Yahoo, it's a collectibles kinda site. BidVille is books, clothes and sportscards.
And I just have to say that while 500,000+ sportscards bug the hell out of me..it's the McDonalds and other fast food toys that are my pet peeve at BV. Good grief, I'd buy a happy meal for my kids when they were small and they'd play with the toy 5 minutes. When I cleared the table of trash after their lunch, the toys were included in the trash. But hey, that's just me..to each their own
posted on February 2, 2002 12:54:30 PM new
I know there are a lot of sportscards..but there are a lot of sportscards buyers, too. And I feel the same way as kodiak about fast food toys, but I also know a man who sells about 2-300 dollars worth every weekend at the flea market, so apparently there is a market for them as well.
But there are also beautiful quilts, hundreds of boyd's bears, which I love, sandwich glass , great deals on books, jewelry, craft supplies, Mc coy pottery, you name it. And the sales do draw bidders, however bidsbids may laugh about them! Come list a few for the upcoming March sale and see for yourself!
posted on February 2, 2002 01:12:36 PM new
Have you looked at the feedbacks of the bidders there on BV? They are 95% sellers that are buying from other sellers. Yahoo and eBay, on the other hand has a very large percentage of its bidders that are brand new. An auction site can not survive without new bidders.
Everyone wanted BV to be a beehive of activity but that never happened.
posted on February 2, 2002 01:26:16 PM new
I have also found BV to be very cliquey. If you are into commons sports card and can break into the clique, you will do great. If you cannot break into the clique and don't sell commons sports cards, you will be doomed. When Yahoo first started charging high listing fees, I went there. Big mistake. I stayed as it was free and better to have something listed than not at all. Late this past fall, I went back to Yahoo. That was a couple of months before the listing fees were reduced. I sold more items in the first two weeks back there than I did my whole time at BV. Why, because I don't sell commons sports cards and am not the type to join into cliques. Not that I don't do my best to provide a great product along with great service, (My feedback at any site will back that up) and now that it costs to even be a member of bidville, it is just not worth it.
bp
posted on February 2, 2002 08:50:23 PM new
My feeling, and I bet a lot of others also, was that Yahoo erred very badly in installing the hefty listing fee from a free listing fee setup. When BV became the prominent site I erroneously believed that a vast majority of the bidders would follow the sellers to BV, especially since the sellers did everything in their power to get their former buyers to come and try their new auction site. The feeling was that BV would simply become the Yahoo Auctions of old and all the sellers would claim that they beat the system and Yahoo shot itself in the foot as they now had a free auction site that was very similar to the old Yahoo Auction. After one year plus it is painfully apparent that that is not the case at all. Yahoo has learned from it's near-fatal error and gone with a better system of a nickel listing fee and a small FVF and many buyers are returning and Yahoo has attracted many new users to it's site. Many of the old Yahoo bidders went to eBay and many went to other small auction sites.
The main reason that BV attracts some much animosity from irate sellers is because it is by far the largest small site. It's failure to attract bids is no worse than any of the other small sites. When you're the biggest of anything then you will draw the lion's share of the attention or blame, either justified or unjustified.
That's my view on the situation.
posted on February 2, 2002 09:51:10 PM new
I just gotta respond. Hell!! Kodi & I have already been labeled as the Bidville Bashers at some places. LOL!!!! I love Bidville, but I feel that some things suck at Bidville. Clique, Posse, Group, pee on them. I am me. Nah!! I take that back. I do belong to the Bidville Clique Message Forum. Some damn good reading. But anyhow, I think the new verification deal at Bidville sucks. Yeah!! I voted for it. Hey!! I voted for Bill Clinton also. So we do make mistakes. Verification is in effect, but bids is also down also. Now for common sportscards. I don't sell them. I give them away to hospitals. I might on ocassion sell a few out of a grand finale set. LOL!!! But!! They are a part of the hobby which I love. So!! There needs to be a place to sell them. I don't even know what barparts sells, but I have noticed he doesn't speak very highly of Bidville. That is his choice. I don't hate him. But it does piss me off that sportscards get the bad publicity at Bidville. Move them, and you don't have Bidville. Well maybe "Bookville". Fastfood toys!!! I have never purchased one at an auction, flea market, or anywhere besides the fastfood outlet. Do I like them? Heck No!! Do I have them? Heck yes. I have about 3 plastic tote fulls in my attic. Most still in the plastic. Do I still buy happy meals at 42 years old? Yelp!! Why? I'm crazy man. It is known throughout cyberland that the Hillbilly is crazy. Am I? My doctor says I am. LOL!!! But anyhow. I think some major changes need to be made at Bidville. I remember the day when Robzac or Robzak one of those, was real popular at Bidville. Quite the talker. Just like me. But I totally understand where he is coming from. I say what I want when I want. Nobody or No click will ever run me from Bidville. Now I won't say that I will never be suspended, cause that could very well happen. Who knows? But until that day comes, or if it comes. I will sale my goods at Bidville. Thanks for letting me vent. I have had a real busy, crappy day. The Most Notorious Hillbilly. Hi Kodi!!
posted on February 2, 2002 10:57:43 PM new
I know you're crazy HillBilly but it's a good crazy. It's a dirty shame that BV didn't become a replacement Yahoo Auctions. We all loved Yahoo Auctions before the listing fees and we were a bunch of happy campers. Yahoo listened to a bunch of cry babies that wanted to see Yahoo turn into an eBay clone and drastically altered their structure with getting any input from the masses. It's way too late for any site to try to take on eBay head on and even Yahoo has no chance in hell. The other auction sites all need to re-invent the wheel and try and a new approach. Copying eBay isn't going to cut it.
posted on February 3, 2002 01:47:29 AM new
Hi HillBilly
Sugar they must be bored if they think we are out BidVille bashing.LOL Some people just like to spend all their time speculatin'. You know the kind..on the porch with a lip full of chaw on a hot day speculatin' on what old Ruben is doin with his crop this year, or what Alma May is doin with them rotten nasty kids a hers I'm no BV basher and neither are you, and I think people know that.. We are just getting into a more open mind-set. I think that the BidVille defenders have done far more harm than good, the way they show their @ss in public here and at the moo. I like hanging out at Mootropolis too (saw your post today) there is always somewhere to scare up a conversation or something interesting to think about. I always read your posts when I get over that way..quite a chatty fella lately! I am sick and tired of the whole BV boards idea, too much tension! But, I do like to go and see how some are doing. Maybe this is how we will wean ourselves HB.lol Hubby is still adamant that I get the hell out of there. I cancelled my premier plus membership a long time ago, but I think I am verified until May or June. I've been listing at yahoo and ebay lately and actually making a few bucks and spending less on b.s..lol
You're right! The biville clique boards are damn good reading.(lmao!!)You know, it was you HillBilly (my evil twin) that made me take a second look at myself about going with what everyone else wanted to do..I really don't like that crap..I like to follow my own path. If people don't like who I talk to, hell with em. I enjoy checking in on what bidsbids is up to, I consider bidsbids a friend. Excalibur is an excellent guy as well, we had a hell of a laugh at ourselves and some of the dumb crap we get tempted into.lol I'm afraid I may turn out to like dimview too, Lord help me.LOL!!
Anyway..here I am rambling on SO..talk to you later sugar..take care and take your medicine.LOL
posted on February 18, 2002 06:27:09 PM new
If anyone is reading this, please know that there have been many misrepresentations and half truths in this thread. Most of these people know me as HAP_N_STANCE at Bidville, and I can tell you that yes, there are a lot of cards and books listed there. However, there are also about a quarter million other things. I don't list books or cards for sale as a rule, though there are occasional exceptions.
I list glass, china, pottery, and other collectibles.
This is not an advertisement for me. the reason I am making this statement is to let you know that my sell through is better than 50%, the first time around. It didn't start out that way, I worked at it. Some of my buyers are also sellers. Regardless, I do allow them to buy from me. Would you turn them away? Some of my buyers are only buyers.
All I am saying is do not let anyone make up your mind for you. Don't overlook a site, any site, because someone else recommends that you do. Or because someone else was unable to sell there.
Personally, I love the site. But regardless, there are people posting in this thread that will tell you I am not lying about the claims I'm making.
Is there fighting going on at the boards, YES! what more could you ask for??
No really, if you need help ask for it. If you don't want to be involved, you don't have to. It just galls me when I hear people tryimg to steer others away from a site that they don't care for, and some people get pretty adamant about. Use your own Judgement folks.
posted on February 19, 2002 12:14:17 AM newHowever, there are also about a quarter million other things
Pretty bad items listed figure there ( used car salesman math perhaps? )
1,091,609 auctions in 2,379 categories!
Any perspective buyers should read the message boards to determine if they wish to purchase items there. You'll be able to judge from those posts, especially from all of the fraud posts on the Bidville Auctions board. As a note those fraud posts are against the BV TOS but Bidville do nothing about them so that tells you a lot about the management of the site.
From BV TOS ...
Added 3/18/01: Messages posted containing names, nicknames or email addresses of other BidVille members for the purpose of reporting 'bad sellers' or 'bad buyers' are prohibited. Please realize that the message boards were not created for this. The best weapon available at this time is the appropriate use of the feedback forum. However, we do support our members using the Traderlist at http://www.traderlist.com. This site is in our opinion the best place to report and learn about 'deadbeats'.
posted on February 19, 2002 03:49:44 AM new
You are going to nit pick yourself into an early grave bidsbids. Try to lighten up for God's sake. You spend most of your time in attack mode lately.
When picking at/on someone, make sure they are someone that 'deserves' it.
posted on February 19, 2002 08:08:55 AM new
Hap has the most to lose if/when BV goes belly up.
If some auction sellers/buyers want to try a different auction then I'd put BV on the bottom of the list. Try AuctionCow, SellYourItem, Carnaby, anything but BV. Unless you simply want a nice place to warehouse your slowest moving auction items there is nothing going for that site.
posted on February 19, 2002 07:52:27 PM new
NO Kodi, of course I don't mean you. However, The statement directly above this by dimbids certainly qualifies as a blatant attempt to tell people that they are too stupid to go make up their own minds.
I don't have any problem if someone says they don't like a site, but to tell others that the site is no good for them is another thing.
[ edited by jimhhow on Feb 19, 2002 07:53 PM ]
posted on February 19, 2002 08:57:21 PM new
By all means prospective buyers/sellers should visit BV. Look at the closed auctions to see the 1.5% sell through rate if they are a seller. Look at a few items up for auction that interest them if they are a buyer. Look at the chat boards at all of the deadbeat/I Got Ripped off posts. Then choose.
posted on February 20, 2002 08:25:37 AM new
Look at the bidville board and read all the posts about advertising. Sellers are begging for it, but you cant have your cake and eat it too. Free lunch is over.
I can also clarify my statement about BidVille with this; I don't sell doodly squat unless a sale is going on. I am not a BV cheerleader alot these days. I think the Prez may be getting ready to give up. There are all kinds of plugs for other auction sites on the boards these days, he used to delete them. Maybe he knows we will be homeless soon.LOL!
