posted on March 25, 2002 09:44:29 AM
The reason for the drop in listings was due to the yahoo FLD on March 12th. I would like to thank dimview for the following stats.
As you can see the sports cards and book listings remain the same, while the other items dropped by 25,000 listings. Bidville has now claimed they cancelled the auctions, but there in no proof.
posted on March 25, 2002 10:24:12 AM
Well In bidvilles Defence.
All of those poeple who had items on semi permanent resubmit are finally running out of time. Anyone who did not pay the fee to verify may not resubmit those again.
I also noticed a few sellers who had abandoned their listings, people bid and never got contacted, seller propably not even using the same email by now.
Well those sellers racked up 4-5 negs each. They also each had about 100+ items listed.......Now they are all gone even though yesterday they had 6-7 days left on their rotation.
So the drop is them cleaning house from sellers who abandoned their listings as well as non-verified sellers running out of resubmits.
posted on March 25, 2002 11:03:48 AM
bidsbids a poster on the moo named "cuff" has claimed she got a email from bidville saying they cancelled the listings. If you notice the only drop was in catagories other than books and sports cards which BTW are full of junk nickel and dime listings, but for some reason these were untouched. The drop also took effect from march 12th(yahoo's FLD) to the present. Bill O'Reilly would have fun picking the "spin" from bidville apart.
posted on March 25, 2002 02:06:38 PM
That explains it. Cuff is obviously making up the entire BV email to say that is the cause of the drop in listings. I bet she can't or won't produce the supposed email too.
She is a nutcase. The other day I was watching the movie Amadeus and I was intrigued by the way that Mozart could think backwards and say eveything in reverse. I tried that with people's name on BV and got some funny names like idok for kodi and and ufans for snafu. But when I got to Cuff ...
Dimview's figurez are incorrect, as usual. If you don't think a drop of 17,971 sportcards is significant you're probably an idiot. Please keep in mind these figures were gathered after the clean up was already in progress, so the total number of sportcard listings eliminated is higher.
BTW... are you people afraid to email BVCS or something? Tell dim to check the old calculator, I think Blairwitch may have frothed like a mad dog on it.
I am a loyal Yahoo seller that also sells at Bidville. I do think that you are off base on attributing the entire 25,000 drop in "other items" entirely to the FLD at Yahoo. While I would agree that some of the drop is attributable to the FLD, I don't believe that most of it is due to this. First, there has not been this large of a drop during the previous two FLD's at Yahoo. It is quite conceivable then dictates that something else is also happening.
It also makes sense that Bidville might be going through listings and canceling some inactive problem sellers. There have been many people who came to Bidville and listed a bunch of listings on the original eight year plan (99 autorelists, 30 day durations). It also quite conceivable that many left the site, but never bothered to cancel the listings. Bidville does not have a system for mass canceling listings so I could see someone not wanting to sit and cancel a thousand listings one at a time. I think there is proof in that there has been continual postings by people winning auctions and the sellers never making contact.
Also there was a 25,000 listing drop in sports cards. While not the same % as other items, it is still a significant drop. Also the book storefront was started for one big e-tailer who has almost all of those listings. Therefore you would not see a drop in these numbers.
Lastly, a large drop in listings had to involve a few big listers. For the most part, these were the sellers who did not want to pay a listing fee so I cannot see them going through the trouble of moving all of their listings for just one free listing because they wouldn't pay for a relist.
posted on March 25, 2002 05:27:10 PM
I agree with Stavescards. Even if some BV sellers did go for the FLD at Yahoo I can see them leaving the original auctions there and maybe even double-listing. Not much chance of selling both items in a 10 day period anyway.
There must have been many angry letters to the BVCS about dead emails or no responses from oldtime sellers that have forgot to check odd email acconts or let email accounts lapse. In that case BV did the correct thing in deleting the deadbeat sellers auctions. They should have told the members what they were doing as it has an honorable thing and nothing devious.
posted on March 26, 2002 01:32:22 PM
Ah ha AW is alive but not well with the likes of the blairwitch and the bidbids. Neither has proven to capable of interpreting the facts and reporting such. However, in America we indulge the masses which includes them and their erroneous opinions.
Blairwitch particularly assumes his/her/its reader to be borderline brain dead. Thus, it delivers any kind of drivel and EXPECTS it to be taken as gospel. Can you believe the ignorance of it to expect anyone to say a drop in BV listings is due to Yahoo having a free listing day. That you simpleton is too simplistic.
Bidbids, you are dumb dummer and dumbest all rolled into one. I need say no more for it is up to you to prove you aren't. You can't just tell me you are smarter than the characterization I just used to describe. If you insist that Cuff prove her words then the same measure must apply to you you ignoramus.
posted on March 26, 2002 01:48:52 PM
MeanGirl, you are in the running for the B!tch of the Decade honors. Close competition with one other BVer but you'll make it a race.
[ edited by bidsbids on Mar 26, 2002 01:49 PM ]
posted on March 26, 2002 04:40:12 PM
Let's see: 573,243 - 549,249 = no change
That must be dimview math! And I would think since you spend so much time hawking Bidville, that you'd know the 299,000+ books in the storefront are from ONE seller so it doesn't seem to make much sense that these numbers would change.
These posts are so interesting. They show just how venemous some people can be.
Bids - hate to break this to you, but another poster whom I know you have respect for has verified Cuff's e-mail. Might want to be careful of your accusations without knowing all the facts. Of course what fun would that be?
posted on March 26, 2002 05:03:43 PM
bidsbids the nice thing about AW is you can ignore these deadbeats lol. I am hoping they install an ignore feature at the moo as well.
posted on March 26, 2002 07:49:34 PM
Yeah, I'm sure that would be great - then you and Dim could just sit talking to yourselves about all that's wrong with the world - maybe even work on math problems together.
posted on March 26, 2002 11:41:52 PM
The truth is your stupid auction site called www.topnotchauctions.com is a total waste of money and effort.
You want publicity, you'll get publicity.
posted on March 27, 2002 10:59:03 AM
All third tier sites are going to have a hard time making a dent in the auction world. They are good for low quality items, but no full time seller can benefit from them. The only site capable of making a dent is yahoo and they arent that gung-ho about auctions anymore. Come June 30th with the postal increase many sellers are out of business.
posted on March 27, 2002 04:37:06 PM
Many Seller's are doing just fine at third tier sites. It all depends on how many sites you want to deal with, and how much work you put into it. If you pay fee's you are doing so because there is advertising being implemented on your behalf. If you decide to pay less, or nothing you accept that you may have to do your own promotions. It's why they are called tiers.
The only one's who will be hurt by the postal increase are the one's who are over-charging for S&H to begin with, because it's cutting into their unethical profit margin. Considering your attitude, I suspect you would fall into that category Blairwitch.
