YourDesigns
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posted on May 11, 2002 07:14:40 PM new
Moo just did a major overhaul of their site. Regardless of what people think of me here or Moo, Moo has done an OUTSTANDING job in the rework.
I am honestly flabbergasted. I never thought Moo had people that could put together such a nice designed site.
Kudos to Patty and the Moo! 
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bidsbids
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posted on May 11, 2002 07:43:04 PM new
The cow logo looks a little like a cross between the old Moo cow and the Toys R Us giraffe.
For a little variety AWers can also check out these online discussion sites -----
The OTWA ... Online Traders Web Alliance
http://community.otwa.com/3/OpenTopic?a=cfrm&s=386293084
AuctionCrotch
http://www.auctioncrotch.com/forums/
The Online Auction Biz
http://onlineauctionbiz.com/auction_discussion_forums.htm
The Online Auction Users Association
( has a Live Chat function )
http://www.auctionusers.org/sitemap.shtml
AuctionTalk.com
( has a Live Chat function )
http://www.auctiontalk.com/
whew ... I'll add more later.
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YourDesigns
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posted on May 11, 2002 08:09:43 PM new
Can't handle it can you BidsBids? ROFL!
Other than OTWA those sites are dead. I guess you really do not want the little guys to succeed. I wonder why that is? LOL!
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bidsbids
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posted on May 11, 2002 08:55:54 PM new
They change the stupid cow logo and some wanna be website designers go ape? Don't you belong back at the Moo frightening people about possible copyright violations they may be commiting?
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YourDesigns
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posted on May 11, 2002 09:01:49 PM new
They did a LOT more than change the cow logo, why don't you TRY looking at the frontpage of sites sometimes and the rest of the site, Bidsbids. LOL!
You know Kenzy is back at the Moo.You could have always just gone to Kenzy's site to get your cartoon fix.
Sheesh, bidsbids, such a bad attitude. I wonder what your agenda is? Oh, never mind, no one even cares!
ROFL! 
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bidsbids
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posted on May 11, 2002 09:57:33 PM new
YD, is this your commercial site?
http://www.mybcoutdoors.com/webdesign.htm
If not, they stole your name!
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YourDesigns
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posted on May 11, 2002 10:45:26 PM new
Nope, not mine.
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bidsbids
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posted on May 12, 2002 06:51:15 AM new
Come on! You must have made some of the those client webpages.
Look at the creativity!
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posted on May 12, 2002 08:38:44 AM new
Looks better, but they have a lot of ads. I remember they saying something like little no intrusive ads. But take a look at the site. The ads are all over the place. To the top, bottom, right, left, and center. They are loaded with affiliate links all over the place.
I guess drastic times calls for drastic measures. I guess the cartoon animal is better than before.
I read something here says that auction cow and mootropolis are owned by the same people. Is that true?
Just curious.
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YourDesigns
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posted on May 12, 2002 10:17:19 AM new
Bidsbids:
LOL! You are really working for this one, aren't you.
comptalk:
They eliminated a few ads from the forums which I like. Loads faster now. I think Patty said no POPUPS, which I agree everyone doesn't like. The ads aren't anymore intrusive that ads at other places. Heck, reading AW right here there is an ad to my LEFT that the ONE ad is the size of 4 ads at Mootropolis, some LOUDPC ad. Then a really ugly banner ad at the top of the page here that flashes annoyingly. At least AW got rid of some of the popups.
No, AuctionCow and Mootropolis are not owned by the same people as Patty has made clear on many occasions. I just read it again someplace over there. My understanding (I could be wrong) is that Mootropolis started out as being part of AC, but that when AW did the credit card thing Moo moved out of AC and on its own, and even created a new entity. Also I think an original seller that helped setup the stuff left to do whatever.
Either way Moo has been on it's own for over 6 months and doing nicely. Looking good too now!
[ edited by YourDesigns on May 12, 2002 10:20 AM ]
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posted on May 12, 2002 11:42:33 AM new
I'll get you yet YD!
My understanding of the Moo-AuctionCow closeness was that AuctionCow didn't want any community boards on their site ( look at the BV and ePier fiascos ) but wanted some message board setup that would be sympathetic to them and they could link to. The Auction Cow boards on Moo started out very low key and then they got their own section but now are just like any other online auction site. I think the reason for that is that ACow is having many problems geting going and really does not want to promote itself until it is stable. If Phase One is a simple software setup and Phase Two is an elaborate software setup then ACow is in for a lot of postponing and loss of credibility.
Once ( and if ) ACow gets going full guns then look for a drastically different Moo role in regards to ACOw. They wil probably have a huge forum and be at the top and have several links to the auction site.
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YourDesigns
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posted on May 12, 2002 12:28:00 PM new
LOL! Perhaps, perhaps.
I agree that AC is just trying to find the "right stuff" for their auction site. I do not think the current software is the answer as I know for a fact that it will not be able to handle the levels of even bidville listings. The solution is doing it from scratch or going with a company that customizes their high-end packages to their clients needs. Either way, it will be expensive.
I have to hand it to AC, though. Unlike many other "head in the clouds" sites they were at least honest and communicative of their plans. It was and still is tiring of listening to Gegy.com and their endless "we will be ready soon" messages. Then Gegy dropped their auction site, and now we go through their endless messages of payment services.
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posted on May 12, 2002 02:33:47 PM new
True. But there are ways to gain market share within building a strong member base supported with a few million or so in advertising/branding in targeted sectors. I think that may work for these smaller sites. But the pure auction site model is dead. These pure auction sites don't have a chance without money. And the majority does not have the money. auctioncow, carnaby, and a slew of unknowns might have a small but good member base, have the greatest support, and a good design, but without $$$ they are dead in the water. I do not understand why people start FREE auction sites, or sites with .01 or .10 cent optional fees. Sites like this have no income, therefore have very little chance to go.
If any of them think they can be a profitable company with a no fee or income structure, then they have a rude awakening coming. I bet that a lot of them will be forced to give it up due to hosting, maintenance, and developing fees cost money. Which they do not have.
Nevertheless, I agree with bidsbids, they deserve a pat on the back, and an A for effort.
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posted on May 12, 2002 09:49:04 PM new
Nothing to do with the topic but I found Hillbilly a "redneck penthouse" ....
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posted on May 12, 2002 11:05:30 PM new
bidsbids!! I like it but I think Mrs. Billy would tire easily from the stairs. ROFLMAO!!!
Hillbilly
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RB
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posted on May 13, 2002 04:52:35 AM new
But, this is the 21st Century ... perhaps Ms Billy hasn't heard of moving stairs yet. For an extra few bucks, you can rig up one of them there boxes that the Ms can get in, push a button, and voila ... top floor! All you need (as Lionel from All In the Family would say) is some 'lectricity.
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RB
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posted on May 13, 2002 06:34:53 AM new
wrt to the subject, as my Mom used to say "you can dress them up but not necessarily take them out". Personally, I do not like sites where you are greeted with something that flashes or blinks, or that uses so many colours in their "clever" design that it becomes a blur!
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bidsbids
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posted on May 13, 2002 10:31:14 PM new
Hillbilly, I saw this sign and thought it may be in your neighborhood? Your West Virginia tax dollars at work.
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RB
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posted on May 14, 2002 04:49:44 AM new
Hey bids ...
It's early here, my gut is acting up again and I feel like a piece of cr@p. But, that last one brought a smile to my pained face.
Thanks
Rob
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posted on May 14, 2002 07:42:41 AM new
YourDesign just for your info a quick check at namesecure shows that the owner of Auction Cow and Mootropolis are the same person
Registrant:
DJ WhiteBoy
Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: AUCTIONCOW.COM
Registrant:
DJ WhiteBoy
Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: MOOTROPOLIS.COM
*
http://www.romahawk.com
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RB
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posted on May 14, 2002 08:01:48 AM new
Who are you calling White, boy?
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bidsbids
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posted on May 14, 2002 08:08:40 AM new
Would that be Chuck as the DJ White Boy registrant?
But Patty insists that she owns Moo?
What an odd name to register internet sites under?
There ... three questions. Didn't Gegy's house of cards start to come tumblin' down when people started digging into it's public records? I'm sure it's all kosher.
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posted on May 14, 2002 09:34:27 AM new
Actually, this was explained some time ago. My understanding is that another associates registered the domains, but that person is not with the various things (either went on doing something else or something) they are doing. The domains registar information has not been updated to reflect changes that happened in Nov.
This is not an unusual occurence. There are several dozen sites I know that do not have correct or updated registar information. It is not required to be updated.
Remember that Moo WAS over at Auctioncow before November, 2001, and I think they registered the names around the same time.
Patty never said she owned Moo. Yes, it's her board, but she has hinted that there is more than one owner (could be a corporation or such, those aren't hard to setup). Since I don't give Moo any money or credit card information, it doesn't bother me at all NOT to know. Now if they asked for some of that information, I would question a bit more about Moo.
I think it is just Kosher, yes. Usually someone's track record shows up in their own actions over time, and Moo has been with us over 6 months and people have no problem with Patty or Moo (I certainly don't anyway). They have been consistent in their fairness, IMO. I don't know about AuctionCow cause I don't list there.
Gegy and such all are each their own story.
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posted on May 14, 2002 10:20:34 AM new
Remember that Moo WAS over at Auctioncow before November, 2001, and I think they registered the names around the same time.
Didn't Auction Cow launch it's auction site well after November? The only thing on the Auction Cow home page that I remember was a now-rarely-mentioned Gateway Computer Give-A-Way Contest.
I seem to remember reading a post or two by Patty about her being heavily invested financially in Moo and she was doing it to make money not just make a lot of cyber friends.
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posted on May 14, 2002 01:40:18 PM new
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reality1
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posted on May 14, 2002 02:15:51 PM new
GoDaddy is a domain name registrant service. Evidently Patty and Chuck both used the service to register their domain name. Why Godaddy’s name is on the Whois is beyond me.
http://www.godaddy.us/newdomains_us.asp?isc=znt0513us1
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posted on May 14, 2002 03:02:30 PM new
AUCTIONCOW.COM WHOIS results:
Registrant: DJ WhiteBoy OneCentMusic 1904 Monroe Suite 89 Atlanta, Georgia 30324 United States Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com) Domain Name: AUCTIONCOW.COM Created on: 27-Sep-01 Expires on: 27-Sep-02 Last Updated on: 04-Feb-02 Administrative Contact: Cow, Auction [email protected] AuctionCow 1904 Monroe Suite 89 Atlanta, Georgia 30324 United States 877 (862) 600-1212 x518 Fax -- 877 (862) 600-1212 x518 Technical Contact: Cow, Auction [email protected] Auction Cow 1904 Monroe Suite 89 Atlanta, Georgia 30324 United States 877 (862) 600-1212 x518 Fax -- 877 (862) 600-1212 x518 Domain servers in listed order: NS1.ZABCO.NET NS2.ZABCO.NET
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posted on May 14, 2002 04:23:33 PM new
Actually, no AuctionCow was in place before Novemember, but the auction part was not running. Only the FAC and message board (precursor to Moo) was functioning. I don't know how long AuctionCow was up before Novemember.
I am not certain what the whois has to do with Mootropolis.com makeover, but to each his own.
I think if you want answers (to whatever question you are asking I am not sure at this point) you would have to ask either AuctionCow ([email protected]) or Mootropolis.com ([email protected]). I am sure they could clear up the issues. Though, I think Chuck has an account here at AW doesn't he?
I don't work for either one, and am primarily just a supporter of Moo. Can't speak for either one.
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posted on May 14, 2002 04:24:57 PM new
Oh, I did like the Hillbilly Penthouse. Though I wonder how they get in the side door with the ladders are on either end.
Or my eyesight is going....
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posted on May 14, 2002 08:03:27 PM new
I saw a program on the Discovery Channel about bridges and an interview with a bridge worker revealed that a little wind near the ground often translates into a lot of wind 30 feet up. Who in their right mind would even go into that lofty ( and heavy ) trailer on two thin poles/ladders? Circus personnel?
[ edited by bidsbids on May 14, 2002 08:04 PM ]
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