auctiongallery2
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posted on February 5, 2001 07:44:11 AM new
I posted a link to BidBay's SEC filing on BidBay's chat board with this little statement "I think if anyone has a genuine interest in BidBay they should read it."
And they pulled it...LOL. Talk about censorship.
Before that I was attacked by the members, one calling me a "scary online person," another asking me to keep my "negative comments" to AW.
Now I ask what is so negative and scary about posting a link to a public filing that BidBay itself wrote?
What is BidBay scared of?
BTW I have a copy of all posts...LOL...so they can delete all they want to but the truth will set them free.
Edited For Clarification
auctiongallery2
[ edited by auctiongallery2 on Feb 5, 2001 07:45 AM ]
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posted on February 5, 2001 08:02:33 AM new
I also just received an email from George the BidBay CEO telling me my posting privileges have been suspended.
He also informed me that he has printed out all of my posts at BidBay and auction watch and implying that I defamed his web site, hinting of possible litigation.
He stated I have created "'business economics' interference" with not just him but the sellers on BidBay.
Now does that term "business economics" sound like another poster here on this board?
auctiongallery2
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auctiongaurd
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posted on February 5, 2001 08:09:36 AM new
Isn't that the same term used by rafeal and fullofknowledge in other threads? Not a common phrase.
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 5, 2001 08:11:29 AM new
ding ding ding...give that winner a cigar...LOL
auctiongallery2
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freejack
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posted on February 5, 2001 11:28:05 AM new
Hey Auctiongallery,
I guess you're no longer invited to visit Bidbay and help them improve the site any more...LOL
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 5, 2001 01:33:54 PM new
LOL...and another cigar goes out to yet another winner!
auctiongallery2
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dadnmom
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posted on February 6, 2001 02:39:27 PM new
Here is the link: FYI
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1126021/0001075793-01-000006.txt
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DrJon71
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:04:48 PM new
GO DadNMom!!!
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msgodrocks
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:09:00 PM new
reading back through the threads this afternoon has certainly been entertaining! And I noted that fullofknowledge surely got quiet!!
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 03:49:34 PM new
Funny thing msgodrocks I just noticed.
on the thread started by Rafaelva, Rafealva states:
Many of you, rrt, tuition44, seabhs, keep barking in the basement
Barking being the keyword here.
Then this morning when fullofknowledge1 responded on the bidbay item numbers thread they stated:
Did I hear someone, thing, barking again.
Hmmmm...plus you need to read that thread and my responses to some other things fullofknowledge1 stated.
I have already emailed the moderators here with other similarities.
I find it sad that all of those members at BidBay call anyone and everyone trolls...when they in fact have a couple here.
AG2
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coolvette
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posted on February 6, 2001 05:22:14 PM new
Auctiongallery2,
If you think that fullofknowledge1 is George, rafealva or any of the Bidbay staff, your wrong. I know this for a fact!
And yes we do have a couple of trolls running around no doubt. Click here to see one admit to it. 
~Vette~
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:17:33 PM new
Oh but vette, if it's not he, or she...then it's someone very close.
I will let the moderators settle it.
Either way it is an anonymous troll trolling for BidBay.
It didn't take long for people to go and look up Rafaelva's id on BidBay. Funny thing is the auction they were running just says Test1 and the winner on it was one of the programmers for BidBay. Who left the comment Rachel.
But of course it's all "business economics interferrence." LOL
AG2
"waving to you know who"
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:24:38 PM new
And one other thing.
Because of the similar use of such a phrase as uncommon as "business economics" being used by all 3 the integrity issue arises yet again.
Even if it is not he or she or staff as I said it is someone close. And now after going back over the last year of posts you kind of have to take fullofknowledge1's with a grain of salt. They come off as extremely promotional and biased.
It is this type of behavior that continues to validate my opinion of this company and I'm sure has validated many others as well.
AG2
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MRFANINI
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posted on February 6, 2001 06:43:02 PM new
WOW -i see WE still at it.
have a nice day
tomorrow will be another day.
The weather was nice today (In Texas)
hope some of US get to go out more
if someone out take this opinion and turn it around. I will not be reponsible for any brain cell loss, if any still available after
reading this message
The opinion express above are for comparison purpose only
please be advice that your brain mileage may change and it will
and to some it will be a total recall
mrfanini
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OneDay
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:26:51 PM new
I find it very funny to have been called a Troll coolvette, I was stating if that is what ppl want to call me then I guess that is what I am...SO WHAT??? You have your version of a Troll I have MINE...GROW UP!!
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coolvette
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:37:53 PM new
I find it very funny to have been called a Troll coolvette, I was stating if that is what ppl want to call me then I guess that is what I am...SO WHAT??? You have your version of a Troll I have MINE...GROW UP!!
I don't recall anyone calling you a troll except for yourself and you should practice what you preach!
~Vette~
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 07:40:17 PM new
Vette,
I've been doing a little research and have come across some information where he brags about setting up new accounts here after he has been "thrown out a zillion times."
Once again the integrity issues continue. It really puts a cloud around anyone's statements that can't be verified through auction history, feedback etc.
I'm all for posting ID's when you feel you need to be protected from reprisal, but I do not understand the need for a posting ID to promote good things about a site.
AG2
[ edited by auctiongallery2 on Feb 6, 2001 07:41 PM ]
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OneDay
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:07:18 PM new
Vette, I think you need to re-read the thread you have so kindly put a link to ..It was not calling me a Troll it was calling ppl here at AW in general a Troll..I was just agreeing to it..I think you need to take your own advise..AuctionGallery2 has made some very vaild points about this site to which I happen to agree with..Why is it that Bidbay can not take the heat? Maybe it is because auctiongallery2 is right!! Bidbay can not stand to have someone telling the TRUTH about their site. And they have tried to do everything they could to stop auctiongallery2 from talking. Now that aucitongallery2 has declined the offer to go to CA they know they can not bribe him anymore. So now he is going to start threatening him with possible legal action..FOR WHAT? Stating what he thinks..ridiculous!!!
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coolvette
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:19:31 PM new
Oh I know exactly what the thread reads! I learned how to read along time ago!
Auctiongallery2's personal problems with Bidbay are between them two. I happen to respect this man and George too. Today's news and tommorrows history!
Thats all I have to say on the matter except there are two sides to every story!
~Vette~
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OneDay
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:25:08 PM new
They may have their "personal" problems and you are right it is between those two. However, I am not referring to "personal" problems I am referring to Bidbay.com problems. I do not think aucitongallery2 has mentioned "personal" problems so therefore I would have never know that..but thanks to you now everyone does...
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coolvette
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:37:00 PM new
They may have their "personal" problems and you are right it is between those two. However, I am not referring to "personal" problems I am referring to Bidbay.com problems. I do not think aucitongallery2 has mentioned "personal" problems so therefore I would have never know that..but thanks to you now everyone does...
Can you believe that someone would actually post this?
~Vette~
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OneDay
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:43:48 PM new
yes because you did!!
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auctiongaurd
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:47:49 PM new
Coolvette, if you had never posted in defense of this site the thread would have been over long ago. Your arguing back and forth with your nemices only allows hundreds (maybe thousands) of new people everyday to read this thread as it keeps coming back to the top. These new people may have never known about all of your site's foolishness, but now they do.
Do not take offense to this, but if you are so big on being the defender you may want to consider that the best defense is to do nothing.
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OneDay
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posted on February 6, 2001 08:50:48 PM new
Thank You auctiongaurd I agree
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coolvette
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posted on February 6, 2001 09:10:59 PM new
Coolvette, if you had never posted in defense of this site the thread would have been over long ago. Your arguing back and forth with your nemices only allows hundreds (maybe thousands) of new people everyday to read this thread as it keeps coming back to the top. These new people may have never known about all of your site's foolishness, but now they do.
Do not take offense to this, but if you are so big on being the defender you may want to consider that the best defense is to do nothing.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe I want to send this thread back up to the top? Think about it some.
Again there are two sides to every story just like a person has their own opinion regarding the Bidbay site.
You have formed yours foolishness but the bottom line is that listings continue to rise upon the site! 
Wonder why???
~Vette~
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 09:19:46 PM new
Well if listing keep improving...then I can't be sued for "business economics interference" can I? LOL
Just being a little facetious...lol
AG2
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wabmester
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posted on February 6, 2001 09:21:11 PM new
vette,
How do you know the number of listings is increasing? Does anybody even know how many listings there are? It's really hard to tell because of the pumped up numbers.
Anybody have any idea how many users there are? Also hard to tell due to all of the SpeedyClick "users" who have never been to the site. From the chat boards, it seems like it's still the same dozen or so users that have been there since the beginning
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 6, 2001 10:11:24 PM new
wabmester,
that is a good point.
If you visit the chat boards you will see the same users over and over with pretty much the same feedback from those same users.
I keep/kept hearing about 250,000 users a month being added, but I rarely saw anyone new coming to my auctions, or participate in the contests or chat.
Which goes to prove that the contests really aren't doing that much for them.
AG2
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auctiongallery2
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posted on February 8, 2001 12:05:27 PM new
Bumping for the benefit of others.
AG2
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