palaco
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posted on July 11, 2002 05:07:25 AM new
Anyone from here participating? Either listing or planning on browsing/bidding?
I've got a couple of dozen auctions ready to roll come July 18 and hoping to be able to spend a little cash and get some holiday shopping out of the way a little earlier this year (I'm one of those annoying people who has her gifts bought wrapped and tagged by Thanksgiving anyway  )
There's a nice little list of Sellers accumulating - Christmas @ Carnaby July 18-28. Hopefully, it will generate a little more activity at the site.
[ edited by palaco on Jul 11, 2002 05:08 AM ]
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RB
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posted on July 11, 2002 06:22:53 AM new
Christmas in July???
Give us a break already ... we get 8 months of winter here and the last thing we want to think about is Christmas in July.
Besides, why would you want to wish away 5 months of your life???
Carnaby seems to be getting very desperate to try and make something happen on their venue. This reeks of used car salesman tactics.
Good luck anyway
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bidsbids
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posted on July 11, 2002 06:29:15 AM new
Good luck on the Summer Sale. About a month ago I ran 30+ items for 10 days and got only 3 pageviews total. I think sites like Carnaby and BV would be wise to take the free counters out.
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robnzak
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posted on July 11, 2002 12:19:15 PM new
...Carnaby seems to be getting very desperate to try and make something happen on their venue. This reeks of used car salesman tactics...
RB...Hap doesn't sell on Carnaby (running and ducking)
Seriously, Carnaby had nothing to do with the Christmas in July sale (which btw is a common summer type sale) It was started by a couple sellers to try and get a little excitement going...nothing wrong with that as most venues do the same thing.
Carnaby DID however, jump on the bandwagon and graciously offered to provide a home page link to participating sellers, which shows their willingness to help sellers succeed.
respectfully, Rob
robnzak - 1st editions
[ edited by robnzak on Jul 11, 2002 12:20 PM ]
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RB
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posted on July 11, 2002 12:29:52 PM new
Hi Rob (OtS) ...
I know.
But, you know how little stupid things like this bug me, like seeing Canadian Tire Christmas ads on teevee in August when it's still warm outside. That's not the time to be reminded that winter in coming. Wait at least until the snow starts to fly and it gets dark at 4:00 PM before reminding us that we're going to be living in igloos and eating Caribou for the next 6 to 7 months.
OTOH, showing those Hawaiian holiday packages in January when it's -40 outside *is* OK ...
Some forms of marketing are just a little too corny for me, and "Christmas in July" tops the list
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caffeitalia
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posted on July 11, 2002 09:17:43 PM new
Kind of funny how this sale was held at bidville last year. Looks like the bidville rejects are still at it. These sales are a desperate attempt by the card sellers to boost sales. Only trouble is that all of the bids comes from within the clique and very few new bidders if any make it to the site. I hope that Carnaby does well with the sale, but I am guessing it will fail just like all of the sales done over at bidville.
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RB
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posted on July 12, 2002 11:12:00 AM new
BidVille rejects??? Are you suggesting that BidVille rejects members?
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RB
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posted on July 12, 2002 11:55:15 AM new
I know that a certain poster here whose alias starts with a 'c' and rhymes with laffisstale did have an a$$hole transplant once, and was rejected by the transplant.
But that's different than a BV reject, isn't it?
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Intruder1952
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posted on July 12, 2002 12:08:44 PM new
LOL
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bidsbids
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posted on July 12, 2002 01:49:34 PM new
Good luck on the sale. Of all of the third tier sites Carnaby has the best software, techs, management, and caliber of sellers. If any of the third tier sites survives and prospers I hope it is Carnaby.
When BV finally stops operations ( could be very soon by the looks of things ) I feel very few of the BV sellers will shift over to Carnaby. Too classy and their nonsense posts will look horrible next to the intellectual posts in the Carnaby Cafe. The local thrift shops will get much of the BV goods.
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caffeitalia
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posted on July 12, 2002 03:50:19 PM new
Or the bidville rejects can dump them in that cesspool called Canada. Or at least in RB's back yard.
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RB
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posted on July 12, 2002 04:16:20 PM new
Or at least in RB's back yard
If you'ra acomin' from 'Merica, be makin' sure ya bringed yur God-given-right-to-bare arms eh ... you'ra gonna need that for our mosquitos eh ... them puny little swatter things youse folks got ain't gonna do ya a damn bit of good here that's for sure.
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pclady
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posted on July 13, 2002 02:40:16 PM new
I used to love Christmas Around the World parties that occurred in July. Way too much money goes out the window in Nov/Dec and I welcome the opportunity to spend it early so I'll be passing some of my cash to Carnaby sellers should they list what I can't live without.
RB - Have you ever thought of getting a job as official parade rainer? You do it so well, I'm sure you would be a shoe-in. 
pclady
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RB
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posted on July 14, 2002 12:12:07 PM new
pclady
Actually, I think the idea of a summer sale is great and I wish you Carnabites tons of success.
What I am objecting to is calling this a "Christmas" sale. Christmas is still 5-1/2 months away by crimminy, and you have to admit that this a very tired advertising cliche. It has about as much draw as the B&M store when it advertises ther "Pre Boxing Day Sale" in October - no one shows up and they wonder why.
Call it a "Summer Sale" instead - that's what it is
And, I hope it doesn't rain on your parade ...
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caffeitalia
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posted on July 14, 2002 07:00:21 PM new
And no one rains on a parade more then RB.
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dman3
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posted on July 14, 2002 07:02:14 PM new
Well heck already people stop wishing them luck and go make a bid already.
Thats how these things gain popularity and success!!!!
wish are very nice but just wishing it so wont make it happen..
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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pclady
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posted on July 14, 2002 08:03:15 PM new
dman - it doesn't start until the 18th.
RB - You could shred your Canadian Tire money and have ticker tape rain for special occasions such as this. 
pclady
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palaco
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posted on July 14, 2002 08:23:12 PM new
Kind of funny how this sale was held at bidville last year. Looks like the bidville rejects are still at it. These sales are a desperate attempt by the card sellers to boost sales.
caffeitalia - while I have no doubt that some of the Sellers at Carnaby may have listed at BV, I can assure you that not all of them have and are, by your reckoning "bidville rejects". Some of them I could go so far as saying, wouldn't touch BV with someone else's pole..... You might also like to note that there are less than 250 trading cards listed on Carnaby compared to the 15,000+ on BV at this point in time and that the particular Seller at Carnaby that proposed this sale does NOT sell trading cards. Any desperation on the part of card sellers obviously isn't happening at Carnaby.
Perhaps put your cynicism aside for a short while and take the time to actually do a little homework first.
Call it a "Summer Sale" instead - that's what it is
All depends where you are, doesn't it? (Oh yeah - that would require people remembering that there are places outside North America.....)
RB, it is not a "Summer Sale" in the same sense that most places run them - the emphasis of this sale is Christmas themed items. Sure there will be gift ideas and other items, but I think there will be a large percentage of holiday-oriented listings.
"Christmas In July" is very popular south of the equator because it is cooler, sometimes frosty even and it's the closest many places get to a white Christmas. The other drawcard is traditional Christmas fare is more desirable in the cooler months. Come December, the last thing anyone wants to do is spend hours in an already hotter than Hades kitchen!
I too, detest the trees, cards & wrap, decorations etc being shoved at me from September, the carols playing tonelessly from October but this is only a 10 day sale. It's not like Carnaby Sellers are planning on hawking holiday stuff for the next 5 months.
Carnaby has jumped on the bandwagon and is, as Rob mentioned, running a logo button comp for the home page. Now if only they'd cough up with the advertising, they might actually start to get somewhere....
dman
[ edited by palaco on Jul 14, 2002 08:24 PM ]
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caffeitalia
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posted on July 14, 2002 09:52:19 PM new
palaco,
You were correct in your assumption in my not looking at the site since I was listing items amongst the tons of bidville reject items. I did now take a look and I see that the rejects have absolutely ruined Carnaby. They have only about 3,000 total listings. No wonder they are having the Christmas in July sale. I was right about this part though. It is no question a desperate attempt to gain listings. Good luck to them, but I doubt it will bring any new bidders in. That was just writing on the wall. You can bet it was because the bidders came and all they saw was bidville reject items. And you are correct on the few card items listed there now, but it wasn't that way late last fall when I was still there. It was the majority then. As far as only 15,000 sports cards on bidville, unsure where you got that low figure as I just checked it out and there are over 500,000 listed as we post this message. Plus the many others not listed in the proper catagory and many misnamed titles which is the main problem driving the bidders away. Again, I do hope that Carnaby does well, but there numbers just don't look good.
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bidsbids
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posted on July 14, 2002 11:42:39 PM new
I gotta agree with a lot of what cafe just said. BV is sportscards. They could have become a top sportscard niche auction but even the med school dropout quickly saw the problem with that setup, no revenue.
BV tends to be more like a KMart and Carnaby tends to be more upscale like Macys perhaps. The shoppers of KMart sometimes may go to Macys but not often and vice versa.
None of these little known and low traffic sites has much of a chance. We would all love to see them prosper and get bidding traffic that is not just their fellow sellers buying items. It hasn't happened, it is not happening and it will not happen in the future. Amen. Accept it.
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