blairwitch
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posted on August 29, 2002 01:51:58 PM new
Total Items- 2000
Items With Bids- 110
Total- 5.5%
A slight improvement from the last sample. 
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RB
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posted on August 29, 2002 02:20:57 PM new
Doesn't look too bad.
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tooltimes
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posted on August 29, 2002 05:11:58 PM new
Of course these are really not $1 Sale stats since the sale doesn't start until the first of September. By then the BV sellers who are doing most of the actual buying will have spent most of the shopping allowances and the stats that BV will publish for the legit two week period will probably be lower.
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blairwitch
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posted on August 29, 2002 07:27:10 PM new
Compared to the yahoo sale stats bidville's sale seems to be a disaster, but for a third tier site 5.5% is about as good as it gets. The one thing I did notice is the total listings still have remained for the most part very stagnant. The majority of sale items on bidville are simply changed to include the $1s in the item description. Tooltimes may be correct, and we will see as the sale begins.
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tooltimes
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posted on August 29, 2002 07:48:30 PM new
I think almost all of the buying on BV is by sellers. JimTaxi demonstrated that when he did any analysis of Cuff's feedback a while back.
Many sellers may make about $40 in BV sales and then spend the same $40 on BV items. That makes BV a big social circle to a lot of BV sellers.
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yellowbud
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posted on August 30, 2002 04:41:03 AM new
Do you really think you can prove that the majority of bidding at BV is done by other sellers, by using one seller's feedback as an example? (A very unethical act, by the way!)
Seems like a very faulty system to me. You would have to ASSUME that EVERY seller at BV has the same type of buyers. You would have to ASSUME that every bidder is leaving feedback. You would have to ASSUME...
Oh, never mind! Seems like an awful lot of ASSUMING going on, and not much proving. And when you take into account the fact that the ASSUMERS are rather biased in their ASSUMING, it sort of blows the whole theory out of the water, doesn't it?
The good news is:
There is ALOT of bidding going on at Bidville right now!
Many of the bidders are new to the site!
Many of the bidders are NOT sellers, but return customers!
The bad news is (for some of you):
Most sellers at BV will consider the sale a success!
The site is still growing, however slowly!
You guys will have to keep grasping at those straws in order to try and discourage people from using the site!
I have to get back to work now, collecting payments, and packing orders. My stats, for the sale, are looking great to me!
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RB
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posted on August 30, 2002 08:50:03 AM new
Compared to the yahoo sale stats bidville's sale seems to be a disaster, but for a third tier site 5.5% is about as good as it gets.
That's the point I was trying to make.
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bearmom
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posted on August 31, 2002 04:57:51 AM new
Blairwitch, how about this suggestion to actually prove your point? I'm sure the items you list are high quality collectibles. List some of them at BV, start at a dollar, and set your reserve at what you actually want-then let us know how many looks and bids you get on them.
If what you are saying is correct, you won't get any bids or looks, so you won't be out anything, and will have proven your point!
I'm not talking about the dollar sale, of course, since there are no reserves there...it would take someone who's really sure of herself to do that! Just list them, post a few plugs for yourself, and let us know in two weeks how it went-
Or have you been banned from BV at some time in the past?
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blairwitch
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posted on August 31, 2002 06:50:58 PM new
Bearmom my items are doing quite well on yahoo's sale thank you. My account is still very active on bidville.
Tomorrow is the big day at bidville and I will watch the results and report every other day.
[ edited by blairwitch on Aug 31, 2002 06:51 PM ]
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robertsmithson
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posted on August 31, 2002 07:21:15 PM new
The same 6 featured sellers for two days in a row now?
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bearmom
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posted on September 1, 2002 02:24:44 PM new
If you still have an account at Bidville, then it shouldn't be any problem to list a few items there, BW.
I sold at Yahoo for a long time myself. But the con artists and NPB's gave that place a bad reputation. Probably why the majority of the honest sellers left for better places.
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 02:50:21 PM new
I looked through a few sale categories today and there were almost no bids in the sports and books categories. Maybe 1%-2% of those items with a bid.
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blairwitch
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posted on September 1, 2002 03:30:41 PM new
Robert I noticed they now have the sale broke down by catagory and it looks much worse. From the data I observed the over all bid rate is 1.2-1.6%, BUT when you take a sample of the first 2000 items it comes out to 5%. I will be posting stats tonight. 
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bearmom
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posted on September 1, 2002 04:49:46 PM new
And using Dimview's old calculator? The one with the button that says 'my way'?
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 05:56:55 PM new
By having all the categories right there to check, there is only one way to get a bid rate. Some categories like children's clothing may have a decent rate but the other categories should bring the overall rate down to the usual BV rate of one out of every one thousand items.
People hate Dimview because Dimview shows them the reality of the situation.
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blairwitch
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posted on September 1, 2002 06:55:50 PM new
Total Items- 2000
Items With Bids- 247
Total- 12.3%
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 07:36:25 PM new
The books and sports stuff categories alone have over 2,000 listings and they have a couple dozen bids between them.
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bearmom
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posted on September 1, 2002 07:37:41 PM new
Nobody hates dimview. He's not worth the effort. They do get tired of his biased, slanted stats that he presents as mathmatical gospel, no matter how he has to twist the numbers to get them.
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barparts
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posted on September 1, 2002 09:48:33 PM new
BW,
Your stats are flawed. You are looking at only the maximum allowable showings. Bidville limits the search display to 2000 showings. So when you add all of the listings not shown in the search, it turns out to be just over 1%. Not very good at all. In fact, not worth wasting time it that site.
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robertsmithson
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posted on September 1, 2002 11:16:45 PM new
If you select just 2 of the 17 sale categories and those 2 categories just happen to be Bidville Motors and 'Photos/Electonics' categories then the sales figures are 0% because there are no bids in either category.
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blairwitch
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posted on September 2, 2002 02:11:01 PM new
barparts I agree. I used the first 2000 items as an example. If you look beyond the first 300 items the bidrate falls quickly. Bidville reported the overall sale bidrate at over 7%, but that number I think is a bit too high. I will report a more detailed breakdown if I get time.
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