RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 12:50:33 AM new
TODAYS FEATURED SELLER BREAKDOWN
6 BIDVILLE SELLERS
2 have used ebay in the past, but currently choose not to sell there.
5 have used Yahoo in the past, but currently choose not to sell there.
4 show sales activity in Sept/October (based on feedback).
4 have active bidding at the time of this posting.
2 run 100% Take It auctions that close with first bid.
SELLER 1
Ebay NO
Yahoo NO
BV 3787 Items listed - Most recent activity reported 10/19/02 - All auctions are Take It
SELLER 2
ebay unknown
Yahoo NO
BV 3872 Items listed - Most recent activity reported 10/21/02 - Some are Take It auctions
SELLER 3
ebay unknown
Yahoo NO
BV 101 Items - Most recent activity reported 08/12/02 - All are Take It Auctions
SELLER 4
ebay NO
Yahoo NO
BV 247 Items listed - Most recent activity 10/02/02 - Large number of Take It auctions
SELLER 5
ebay unknown
Yahoo unknown
BV 69 Items listed - Most recent activity unknown
SELLER 6
ebay unknown
Yahoo NO
BV 346 Items listed - Most recent activity 10/19/02 - Large number of Take It auctions
[ edited by RadarLove on Oct 24, 2002 12:51 AM ]
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RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 07:47:05 AM new
-continued for 10-24-02-
TODAYS FEATURED SELLER BREAKDOWN
6 BIDVILLE SELLERS
4 have used ebay in the past, but currently choose not to sell there or are running less than 2 auctions at the time of this post.
4 have used Yahoo in the past, but currently choose not to sell there.
6 show sales activity in Sept/October (based on feedback).
1 has active bidding at the time of this posting.
4 run 100% (or close) Take It auctions that close with first bid.
SELLER 1
Ebay NO
Yahoo NO
BV 3925 Items listed - Most recent activity reported 10/23/02 - All auctions are Take It auctions.
SELLER 2
ebay unknown
Yahoo NO
BV 1551 Items listed - Most recent activity reported 10/22/02 - The majority of which are Take It auctions
SELLER 3
ebay unknown
Yahoo unknown
BV 615 Items - Most recent activity reported 10/04/02 - All are Take It Auctions
SELLER 4
ebay 1 auction running
Yahoo 17 auctions running
BV 71 Items listed - Most recent activity 09/28/02 - A little less than half are Take It auctions
SELLER 5
ebay NO
Yahoo NO
BV 2959 Items listed - Most recent activity 10/20/02 - None are Take it auctions.
SELLER 6
ebay 1 auction running
Yahoo NO
BV 6672 Items listed - Most recent activity 10/17/02 - All auctions are Take It auctions
[ edited by RadarLove on Oct 24, 2002 07:47 AM ]
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reality1
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posted on October 24, 2002 08:00:45 AM new
Let me put a little reality into this. I,m using the same sellers on the same day.
Seller 1
All Auctions (3925 Items)
Bids (2) total bid(s) amount $12.60
Seller 2
All Auctions (615 Items)
Bids (0) total bid(s) amount 0.00
Seller 3
All Auctions (2959 Items)
Bids (1) total bids(s) amount 6.00
Seller 4
All Auctions (1551 Items)
Bids (0) total bid(s) amount 0.00
Seller 5
All Auctions (71 Items)
Bids (0) total bid(s) amount 0.00
Seller 6
All Auctions (6672 Items)
Bids (1) total bid(s) amount 0.10 Yes 10 cents LOL
Business is booming.
ROFLMAO
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RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 08:07:53 AM new
Let me reiterate....
6 show sales activity in Sept/October (based on feedback).
4 run 100% (or close) Take It auctions that close with first bid.
Referring to Seller 1, it's interesting that you see auctions with bids for a Seller running all Take It auctions. How did you do that?
RL
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reality1
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posted on October 24, 2002 08:44:53 AM new
RL
You are to funny. The take-it price IS higher than the starting price on all of seller 1's auctions.
To view the bids on a sellers auctions just view the sellers list and click on the DOWN arrow to the right of bids in the sort by bar.
Sort: Title Price Bids Ends
The arrows don't show here but they are there.
Is this CuFF?
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RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 09:40:09 AM new
Good point. I'll take it into consideration next time. However, this is a breakdown to show information regarding Seller attitudes and activity at three sites. BV, Yahoo and ebay. It is not a statistical report on the numbers. Is this dimview?
All Sellers have had sales activity for Sept/Oct, and some have given up on ebay entirely. Many more have given up on Yahoo. There's a reason for that.
You like to portray BV as a loser site, yet the activity there indicates you are wrong. Not only does the total number of auctions keep rising as more and more Sellers leave ebay and Yahoo due to high fees, but 10 out of 12 have sold something during the months of Sept/Oct according to their feedback. This does not take into account feedback not yet left.
That's the reality.
RL
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yellowbud
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posted on October 24, 2002 09:50:52 AM new
Great breakdown, RL. Nice to see a post with truth involved.
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blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2002 10:27:26 AM new
reality1 is some reality lol.
SELLER ONE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 16-February-2001
Current Listings: 3,925
Total Individual Feedbacks: 1,446 (94 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (94/4)/3,925 = 0.6%
SELLER TWO
Status: Premier Gold Member
Member Since: 29-July-2001
Current Listings: 1,551
Total Individual Feedbacks: 578 (39 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (39/4)/1,551 = 0.6%
SELLER THREE
Status: Premier Member
Member Since: 24-February-2001
Current Listings: 615
Total Individual Feedbacks: 58 (2 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (2/4)/615 = 0.1%
SELLER FOUR
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 7-December-2001
Current Listings: 71
Total Individual Feedbacks: 7 (3 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (3/4)/71 = 1.1%
SELLER FIVE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 20-May-2001
Current Listings: 2,959
Total Individual Feedbacks: 118 (13 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (13/4)/2,959 = 0.1%
SELLER SIX
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 14-January-2001
Current Listings: 6,672
Total Individual Feedbacks: 1,139 (19 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (19/4)/1,139 = 0.4%
Sales ARE Booming at bidville! LOL
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reality1
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posted on October 24, 2002 10:51:43 AM new
RL posted
""You like to portray BV as a loser site, yet the activity there indicates you are wrong. ""
I didn't MAKE the numbers.
Total auctions for the 6 featured sellers = 15,793
Total auctions with bids for the 6 featured sellers = 4
Total sum of money for the 4 auctions with bids = $18.70
Now you say the activity there indicates that I am wrong.
WHAT DID I SAY????? OTHER THAN "Business is booming LOL"
Anyway those numbers are just a sum for the 6 featured sellers in one place in time. Some could do better some could do worse!
The one thing I will say is that is a heck of a lot of auction for having only 4 bids on.
YIKES 
No I am not.
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RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 10:52:20 AM new
This does not take into account feedback not yet left.
And, that is why this is not a stats thread. You can't get accurate figures based on feedback, so why bother? All Sellers had sales activity, period.
I noticed no one posts to your stats thread BW. Is that why you came over to this thread? I thought you were ignoring everyone? Two things are indicated by your actions. One, you lied about ignoring people. Two, you only want to fight.
I repeat, this is a breakdown to show information regarding Seller attitudes and activity at three sites. BV, Yahoo and ebay. It is not a statistical report on the numbers. Yahoo seems to lose the majority of Sellers according to the above. 
JL
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blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2002 11:11:45 AM new
Total auctions for the 6 featured sellers = 15,793
Total auctions with bids for the 6 featured sellers = 4
Total sell-thuu rate 0.03%
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tooltimes
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posted on October 24, 2002 12:40:15 PM new
In the last 4 day there have been 24 featured sellers. Only 6 of those pay for any kind of a premium membership.
One of today's featured sellers has 71 items and has been on BV for almost 23 months. This seller's feedback rating? ( 3 )
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RadarLove
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posted on October 24, 2002 01:19:34 PM new
I would say that the success rate of any Seller is proportionate to how much work they put into their auctions. More auctions, more exposure, more bids. Pretty simple.
RL
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blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2002 02:17:48 PM new
Tooltimes the numbers dont look good at all. I am going to check the featured sellers often to compare numbers.
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bearmom
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posted on October 24, 2002 05:31:14 PM new
The one thing you don't take into account is that featured sellers are not chosen because of their sell-through rate or any other measure of success. They are chosen at random. Many of the most successful sellers have NEVER been featured.
There's an old joke that you can prove pickles cause pregnancy because all pregnant women have at some time eaten pickles-in other words, you can twist the numbers to prove anything, if you're not too picky about the actual accuracy. Using featured sellers to gauge the success of Bidville is as accurate as blaming pickles for babies.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 24, 2002 05:51:25 PM new
Many of the most successful sellers have NEVER been featured.
The selection is random but the rest is total BS.
I have copy n' pasted all 6 daily featured sellers for months now and some actualy come up every 35 days or so like clockwork. I can tell you that there are no really successful sellers on BV now that Hap won't even pay a $5 verification fee. The really successful sellers that you must mean are the ones that sell a high percentage of nickel and dime sportscards and that is an embarassment to the online auction communitity that an auction site even allows these worthless set fillers on their sites at all. BV is the joke of the internet!
[ edited by tooltimes on Oct 24, 2002 09:57 PM ]
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blairwitch
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posted on October 24, 2002 06:13:50 PM new
Tooltimes is has been said for along time the sell-thru rate at bidville is 1%, and the featured sellers are proof of this. We will need to monitor more featured sellers in the future.
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stonecold613
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posted on October 24, 2002 08:59:52 PM new
Bids dim whatever you are today. For the first time since you became tooltimes, you made sense. Bidville is the joke of the internet by allowing the crap on their site. It is so very clear why Yahoo has listing fees, even as low as they are.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 25, 2002 07:17:55 AM new
One of today's BV featured sellers has been on BV for 19 months yet has only one feedback. This seller was a featured seller 38 days ago as well as today.
edited to correct spelling from these to this.
[ edited by tooltimes on Oct 25, 2002 10:40 AM ]
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blairwitch
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posted on October 25, 2002 08:29:34 AM new
SELLER ONE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 27-January-2001
Current Listings: 116
Total Individual Feedbacks: 44 (1 in the past 30 days and it was a "negative"
Sell-Through Rate: (1/4)/116 = 0.2%
SELLER TWO
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 22-September-2001
Current Listings: 66
Total Individual Feedbacks: 17 (2 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (2/4)/66 = 0.8%
SELLER THREE
Status: Premier Member
Member Since: 29-January-2001
Current Listings: 301
Total Individual Feedbacks: 174 (15 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (15/4)/301 = 1.2%
SELLER FOUR
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 5-January-2001
Current Listings: 503
Total Individual Feedbacks: 79 (3 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (3/4)/503 = 0.1%
SELLER FIVE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 3-March-2001
Current Listings: 52
Total Individual Feedbacks: 1 (ZERO in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: ZERO %
SELLER SIX
Status: Premier Plus Member
Member Since: 21-January-2001
Current Listings: 1,563
Total Individual Feedbacks: 813 (38 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (38/4)/813 = 1.2%
Todays featured sellers.
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RadarLove
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posted on October 25, 2002 10:29:15 AM new
There you go basing what you say on a faulty method of data collection. Not only that but you've omitted the information that confirms that many BV Sellers are unhappy with ebay and Yahoo, and have chosen BV.
Feedback is no way to get an accurate sell through percentage. It has been discussed before, and you lost the discussion. If you are intent on taking over this thread by imposing your half-assed method of data collection on it you should at least be complete. If you can't get any action from your own thread it's still no reason to bastardize this one by twisting the original format.
Moderator, please close this thread at your earliest convenience. Thank you.
RL
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tooltimes
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posted on October 25, 2002 10:44:33 AM new
Viva La Warehouse! Yee-Haw!
"Sales?, Sales? We don't got to show you no stinkin' sales!" -- Taken from the auction movie 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre'.
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blairwitch
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posted on October 25, 2002 11:11:14 AM new
Tooltimes its interesting to see how the featured sellers are doing. So far none has cracked that 1.5% STR. Should be interesting to watch if that happens.
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bearmom
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posted on October 25, 2002 06:43:07 PM new
Just an observation here: if allowing crap on a site makes that a 'bad site', then what is AW? I see plenty of crap being dumped on this site, all in the guise of 'stats'.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 25, 2002 07:31:59 PM new
I do believe all particaption at the AW Message Center is voluntary and no one is forced to read the message boards.
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stonecold613
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posted on October 25, 2002 09:26:45 PM new
Nothing but crap posts about the crap site. Hey, that could catch on. Maybe bidville could adopt it as their motto with a slight twist.
Nothing but crap on our crap site.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 25, 2002 11:45:11 PM new
You were made for Madison Avenue!
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blairwitch
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posted on October 26, 2002 11:01:21 AM new
SELLER ONE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 9-February-2001
Current Listings: 114
Total Individual Feedbacks: 78 (ZERO in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: ZERO
SELLER TWO
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 31-August-2001
Current Listings: 751
Total Individual Feedbacks: 101 (68 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (68/4)/751 = 2.3% X 1.44 = 3.3%
SELLER THREE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 14-September-2001
Current Listings: 272
Total Individual Feedbacks: 7 (0 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: ZERO
SELLER FOUR
Status: Premier Gold Member
Member Since: 14-January-2001
Current Listings: 138
Total Individual Feedbacks: 95 (1 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (1/4)/138 = 0.2% x 1.44 = 0.3%
SELLER FIVE
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 14-May-2002
Current Listings: 73
Total Individual Feedbacks: 77 (1 in the past 30 days)
Sell-Through Rate: (1/4)/73 = 0.3% x 1.44 = 0.4%
SELLER SIX
Status: Verified Member
Member Since: 20-January-2001
Current Listings: 82
Total Individual Feedbacks: 18 (1 in the past 30 days and it was a NEGATIVE)
Sell-Through Rate: (1/4)/82 = 0.3% x 1.44 = 0.3%
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RadarLove
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posted on October 26, 2002 12:02:42 PM new
ITEMS LISTED
SELLER 1
ebay 0 Auctions running
yahoo - unknown
BV 114 Items listed
SELLER 2
ebay 0 Auctions Running
Yahoo 0 Auctions Running
BV 751 Items listed
SELLER 3
ebay 28 Items listed
Yahoo 0 Auctions Running
BV 272 Items listed
SELLER 4
ebay - unknown
Yahoo 5 Items listed
BV 147 Items listed
SELLER 5
ebay 0 Auctions running
Yahoo 0 Auctions running
BV 73 Items listed
SELLER 6
ebay - unknown
Yahoo - unknown
BV 82 Items listed
RESULTS
3 of 6 BV Sellers have ZERO auctions currently running at ebay.
3 of 6 BV Sellers have ZERO auctions currently running at Yahoo.
6 of 6 BV Sellers are showing sales activity for Sept/Oct.
Thanks for ignoring my request to close this thread AW. You have proven that this forum really is just a playground for a few in allowing the self-appointed pseudo stats official to completely change the format of someone elses thread.
It looks like the trolls are just about the only remaining survivors of this forum. Ironic that the remaining survivors would benefit from so much leniency when it is they that emptied it to begin with.
WARNING TO ALL READERS
Take it with a grain of salt. It's all BS.... especially if it's coming from BW
RL
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tooltimes
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posted on October 26, 2002 04:41:21 PM new
Some people think that AW supports BV auctions with listing or auction management services. Apparently the same people think that AW actively moderates their message center. AW does neither and it reflects the complete lack of knowledge of anyone that holds these misconceptions.
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