Salgal48
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posted on August 5, 2003 07:23:32 PM new
Seems to be a lot of auctions out there; besides Ebay are they making money?
Ubid has been out since Ebay, so yes, I think so. But the others?
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blairwitch
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posted on August 6, 2003 09:29:41 AM new
I have not found another auction site that can compete with ebays buyer base. Yahoo is second, but a DISTANT second. All the 3rd tier sites are worthless. For all it costs ebay is the best. 
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 6, 2003 09:59:59 AM new
There are a few successful niche auctions that compete as good as or better than ebay in their niche.
One is playerauctions.com that deals with online RPG games
http://playerauctions.com/
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tomwiii
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posted on August 6, 2003 11:06:20 AM new
Aren't Rocket-Propelled Grenade games somewhat risky ??
 
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 6, 2003 11:51:19 AM new
You shouldda asked Ralphie.
RPG = Role Playing Game ( and not the 'You be the fireman and I'll be a nurse' games )
ADD&D - Advanced Dungeons & Dragons
MUDD = Multiple Users Dungeons & Dragons
EQ = EverQuest ( online game )
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tomwiii
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posted on August 6, 2003 12:47:34 PM new
Kinda like:
TC&TT = TippieCanoe & TylerToo??
BIOYA = self-explanatory
FFFOF = 54/40 or Fight??
RAIATROTU = Ralphie and I Are The Rulers Of The Universe??
 
Ralphie loves Mr Blonde:
"Are you gonna bark all day little doggie, or are you gonna bite?"
http://tinyurl.com/5duz
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Romahawk
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posted on August 6, 2003 09:28:47 PM new
To make a statement that all so called third tier sites are worthless is ridiculous. I don't think there is any user of this or any other message board that has visited all the thousands of small auction sites to be able to make an informed judgment on the subject. I hop around to a lot of small sites and I find many of them doing well. Can they match Ebay's user base? Of course not but give them time. I just came off a UK site with thousands of users, items, and bids. Players was already mentioned and if you want to see another go to http://www.choochooauctions.com , not a large site by any means but it has a bid and sell through rate that Ebay would die for. There are lots of small sites and they make itty bitty gains everyday in spite of those who trumpet the message to stay away from them because they are worthless. Take a day a week off from spouting the auction site gospel on these message boards and do a little research so that your so called informed opinions become a little more palatable.
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http://www.romahawk.com
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 6, 2003 09:52:11 PM new
I always liked your optimistic approach to online auctions RomaHawk.
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blairwitch
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posted on August 7, 2003 02:49:16 PM new
I think sellers and buyers did their homework.....eBay is #1 
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sc0ut
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posted on August 7, 2003 03:27:10 PM new
Rome died. And there was a time when the sun never set on the British empire. Sam Walton used to aspire for Wal-Mart to be as big as K-Mart or Woolworth, both bankrupt now. Apple computers used to be 100 times bigger than Microsoft. Netscape used to own 97% of the browser market. Ebay is #1 but not for ever, not with their decline in service and increase in fees. Remember AOL was Wall Street’s darling at one point look at her now.
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 7, 2003 04:28:51 PM new
AOL is going to get hammered real soon. They have a huge accounting scandal hanging over them in the form of partial monthly fees memberships being counted as full monthly fees memberships. The scandal will cost AOL big time in bad press and fines. If you own any AOL stock you'd be wise to dump it now.
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replaymedia
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posted on August 7, 2003 05:27:22 PM new
Agreed. AOL is *NOT* the place to invest in right now.
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Games of all kinds!
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 7, 2003 05:53:04 PM new
This is a very bad scandal. Anyone that's ever had AOL knows that when you call to cancel the service that they always offer greatly reduced rates if you'll keep AOL with limited hours. How in the wide world of sports did they ever think they could write down all of those partial accounts as full accounts and NOT get caught doing it? Didn't they see any accounting or ethics problems at all? At least Enron was sneaky and smart, not sneaky and stupid.
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fenix03
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posted on August 11, 2003 01:23:28 AM new
Auction - Anyone with brains should have seen that AOL was a bad investment as soon as they started the Time/Warner take over. The company has been a disaster ever since. Bad decisions were made on so many diffent levels it ridiculous,
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If it's really Common Sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 11, 2003 06:22:52 AM new
Agreed! But couldn't the powers-that-be at AOL see that they we going to get caught cooking the books by calling all AOL accounts as full payment accounts? It's very obvious that you can't call all the accounts as equal $23.90 per month accounts. Heads are going to roll on this one. Aol membership numbers have dropped from 26.5 million to 25 million in a short time and this was after rapid growth in the membership numbers for years. AOL could have admitted the decliing numbers and the declining percentage of full-members but instead decided to lie and misinform everyone on the membership numbers.
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blairwitch
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posted on August 15, 2003 01:28:50 PM new
The moo is trying to gain more users by paying a very generous amount of money.
http://www.mootalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=32326#post32326
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 15, 2003 02:13:43 PM new
In a way it might be a bad omen for The Moo. This may be a desparate act by a desparate site in a desparate situation. If this gambit fails then The Moo may be abandon the sinking ship.
With the likes of MeanGirl and Buffoon and BatMan over there who would wants to even visit there?
I think this may be the beginning of the End for The Moo. Patty fought the good fight but the cyberworld just isn't ready for the community she envisioned.
A $1 referral program isn't going to matter. I bet they get some church groups or scout groups to take up the challenge as a fund raiser project.
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blairwitch
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posted on August 16, 2003 01:06:59 PM new
AA, I was checking the newest "promotions" offered, and yes it looks like desparate actions. When the most used forum is for a 3rd tier site you are in trouble. The ebay forum should have been busy, but it is dead. Another item that doesnt help is the cow thing. I growed up around farms, and cows are not very interesting lol. What do cows have in common with auctions? Nobody is going to bite for a buck, and instead of a referral program they should have paid people to sign up.....either way its not good.
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AuctionAce
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posted on August 16, 2003 01:28:19 PM new
A lot of the tiny auction sites have free $20, $50 or even $100 offers in extras if a seller registers and I bet they get few takers unless they have a bulk lister.
The ebay forum should be the biggest forum over there and not the obscure forum it has become. I count only about two dozen active posters over there and maybe a few dozen lurkers. Many of the posters are there expressly at the site to either battle for or against the Bidville auction site. That is the main extent of the use of the site. Patty has made the damn site such a complex and confusing mess that it is difficult to navigate the site.
Perhaps the site owner has done some serious soul searching and has decided on one last tactic to draw in fresh blood to the site?
The cow theme is okay but a tad corny like you said. Better a tad corny than the very stoic sites you see these days though.
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blairwitch
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posted on August 16, 2003 02:23:47 PM new
AA, the site is cluttered with worthless forums for 3rd tier sites, and many never had a post. The site does need cleaned up. The bidville forum is quiet now because the natives are fighting it out at their "cafe".
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bonecollector
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posted on September 3, 2003 05:50:30 AM new
Why should ebay be the busiest forum at mootropolis? Does mootropolis make you nervous because they actually allow and acknowledge the smaller sites? It's about time someone realized that ebay is not the beginning and end of the auction world.
There are tons of small site Sellers out there who are tired of being treated like second class citizens. If a few of the larger 3rd level sites banded together they would give ebay a run for the money. Providing a venue where an idea such as that might someday flourish must give hard core ebayers like yourselves reason to worry. Otherwise, why would you care enough to discuss it?
If mootropolis is offering a buck for bringing in new members it could serve as a message to existing members that they need a little boost. Friendly users will no doubt do what they can to assist, dollar or no dollar.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 3, 2003 08:35:41 AM new
I think at least part of the new referral program at The Moo has to do with a new kid on the block with a very good Alexa rating.
http://theauctionboard.com/
Maybe ebay shouldn't be the most watched forum at The Moo but it should not have just a few posts and views per month. I think that reflects on the demographics of the site users, mostly disgruntled ebay sellers that can no longer effectively sell on ebay due to the 16 million auction and store listings there.
Not all the posters are disgruntled former ebay sellers but the majority must be in that boat. The Bidville forum gets a lot of view hits due to their best poster's obsession with the site.
Best poster's abandoned website?
http://members.fortunecity.com/dimview/
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bonecollector
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posted on September 3, 2003 08:54:40 AM new
I think you give dimview far too much credit. His/her statistical threads get very few pageviews, and he/she doesn't cause the waves that he/she used to, even when he/she tries. That's what happens when an obsession gets the best of you, people stop listening.
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Blairwitch
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posted on September 3, 2003 09:14:15 AM new
Ace, the bulk of material posted there is about the endless list of 3rd tier auction sites which are going nowhere. Dimview built the place with the bidville forum, which is the most active forum.
Speaking about bidville, I see the message boards have been shut down for the time being. You know all about that right bone?
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bonecollector
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posted on September 3, 2003 09:29:07 AM new
Of course I do blair. I can read. Moderation is coming to bidville.
To suggest that dimview is responsible for building up mootropolis is ludicrous, but enjoy your fantasy Dimview is responsible for the lack of BV posters who use that forum and nothing more.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 3, 2003 10:17:53 AM new
[b]Message Center is currently offline.
We will reopen shortly with new rules, a new look, and live moderators.
Thank you for your continued patience. [/b]
I wonder if they made 'Who' a moderator? or Sketter N' Bits? Should prove to be an interesting adventure.
His/her statistical threads get very few pageviews, and he/she doesn't cause the waves that he/she used to, even when he/she tries.
You better look at the view hits again. A very healthy percentage of all Moo pageviews are on Dim's threads. ( 3,500 views on Dimview started threads in the BV forum in last 3 months ) Go Dim!!! ( fueling the 'Are Dim and AuctionAce one and the same' debate for 'cufflinks'. )
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bonecollector
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posted on September 3, 2003 10:43:40 AM new
I believe I said his/her stats threads. I only see a few looks. We must be seeing something different. If what you say is true, dimview must be a secret marketing tool for Bidville, so I'll join you in saying go dimview go!
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Blairwitch
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posted on September 3, 2003 01:48:31 PM new
I wonder if they made 'Who' a moderator? or Sketter N' Bits? Should prove to be an interesting adventure.
The suspense is building!
I think you are right ace. They will pick several users for mods.......watch the sparks fly.
BTW congrats Dim.
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AuctionAce
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posted on September 3, 2003 02:30:36 PM new
Stavescards and others are dreaming if he thinks BV will spring for paid moderators. I bet Bryan drives a beatup VW bugs and eats bologna sandwiches to stretch his money. IMO, the moderators will come from the site as volunteers and work in shifts. The interesting thing will be the new rules. Will the boards be closed to non $10/yr members? ( to shut out fanatics like Dim that post and link every controversial thread on the Moo -- it could kill Dim if that happens ) Will there be exclusive rooms only for the Verification Payers? Maybe the chat areas will only have scheduled times when it's opened? I still believe that many sellers only use BV solely because of the chat areas and the Hatfield & McCoy's War over there was causing many members to either leave the site or to threaten BV with that action and THAT has caused the coming modifications.
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Blairwitch
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posted on September 3, 2003 06:16:00 PM new
I think they will either have members moderate, OR all messages will be screened by management before being posted. If the boards would be closed to non members it would hurt the moo more than dimview, but then again there will be no more controversial threads anyway.
I too disagree with stavescards. Bidville wont be paying anyone to moderate the boards.
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