amalgamated2000
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:09:40 PM new
I'm sure there will be plenty of opinions expressed, but I would like to start a streamlined thread to get an idea of how many people are staying on Yahoo and how many will stop listing there.
So, if you would like to reply and just state whether you are staying or going, I think it would be intersting.
Myself: Staying
[ edited by amalgamated2000 on Jan 2, 2001 08:10 PM ]
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molly001
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:19:03 PM new
No more Yahoooooooooos! for me.
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heygrape
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:20:58 PM new
Leaving
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quickdraw29
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:21:58 PM new
I can't think of one reason to stay except to give ebay less of my business. Vote me out.
\"It's lonely at the top, but you eat better.
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kasmoon
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:26:41 PM new
Staying...until my FREE credits for feedback run out.
Going as soon as that happens.
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VeryModern
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:46:15 PM new
I will reduce listings by 95%, and watch results while I rethink the whole thing.
I will not move back to ebay, more likely I will skate to the side of the rink as smoothly as I can and exit this biz.
I don't think you are going to be able to give much of anything away within another month or so anyway.
No one is spending.
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chasd7
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posted on January 2, 2001 08:58:23 PM new
see how it shakes out
flea markets are always there.
Can always use the travel.
Anyone have a good used shelter?
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whyizzit
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:01:28 PM new
Sadly, this little poll won't be constructive - since half the sellers don't come here anyway.
I am pulling out- and may return if they "get it" that we ain't to be fooled with.... would hope 90% of others will too.
Yahoo took this plunge KNOWING its sellers were already unhappy with sales.
If there was to be a fee they should have been savvy enough to make it Final Value Fee ONLY! The should be savvy enough to know we cannot support (2) listing fee based auctions-- especially since they have never shown us a high results format......
I didn't marry Yahoo-- just wanted a good relationship.
Remember, without sellers there is NO auction.
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justjoan
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:11:48 PM new
GARAGE SALE is starting to sound like a way to down load the stuff and as Very Modern said, wait and rethink the whole thing.
Joan
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splashx
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:15:02 PM new
I have approx. 200 listings and will cut back 95% at first and then phase-out. If I am going to pay then it will be for Ebay.......much larger buyer-base. Cya Yahoo
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crankyoldhag
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:48:13 PM new
Going.... don't sell enough to pay fees, Ebay does give me results for their fees....
I am sad  I liked yahoo.
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reston_ray
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posted on January 2, 2001 09:55:47 PM new
Total fees have to be 10% or less of paid sales.
I'll stay if I can figure out how to make that happen. The way things look now I'm forced to leave.
I sold seventeen times more units of a gift item on eBay than at YAHOO over the holiday's selling season. And most of the eBay sales were at a 10% higher BIN price than the 1st Bid Wins YAHOO price.
And they want me to pay for that kind of performance?
I understand their problem with a falling stock price and the need for income but this will not be the answer.
Going, going, about to be gone.
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stockticker
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:05:09 PM new
Leaving.
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granee
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:21:24 PM new
No fees on auto-relists of auctions placed before Jan. 10th, so I'll list through the 9th, put everything on 2 auto-resubmits, then quit. Yahoo's proposed listing fees are so EXHORBITANTLY HIGH considering the number of bidders the auction has (at least, the number of bidders who manage to FIND my listings in the jumbled order and BID) that there's no way in the world I can justify paying those prices. They've got ROCKS IN THEIR HEADS!
Maybe they want to end the auction, and decided this is the fastest way to do it. If that's the case, then FOR ONCE they were right.
As my kids would say, "Yahoo, you're CLUELESS."
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Shawna72
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:42:54 PM new
OUTTA HERE! The Holiday 99 seaon in comparison to Holiday 2000 season shows Yahoo's recent decline, my sales are down 90% from 1999 (through the holiday season), let alone pay...I don't think so....I have steadily lost bidders over time at Yahoo (my rating is 489 with 0 negs...so that is not a factor) If I am going to pay, it will be at Ebay, I sold as much on Ebay during their free listing day (ran 3 and 7 day auctions) as I have in Yahoo since Halloween.
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dave_michmerhuizen
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posted on January 2, 2001 10:45:34 PM new
I'll have to leave, although sadly. I can understand why they're doing it - after all, free doesn't pay the rent. Still, my bottom line is that my items have to spend a long time on Yahoo before someone finally decides to buy them, so I can't afford to pay a listing fee on the site.
I would be more than happy to support a Final Value Fee. An FVF would have Yahoo taking some of the risk -- low traffic would mean less money, high traffic (and sales) would mean more money. Just like in a mall where the management gets part of the cash register take, if we do well, they do well, if we do poorly, they do poorly. I believe FVFs are fair.
While listing fees are also fair, and like mall floor space rent, in a very low traffic venue like Yahoo they are counter-productive. They will force sellers out, shrinking the offerings of the site and marginalizing it, resulting in a death spiral.
Too bad. tooooo bad.
ebay: [email protected]
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JackWolfe
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posted on January 2, 2001 11:18:28 PM new
What is going on here? Complaints over a measly $0.20 or $0.35 fee (if you start your auctions off low, as you should)? I list about 100 auctions a month on Yahoo and sell a very good share of them. Why? Because I sell QUALITY items and I start off my auctions at a low price.
That's part of the problem here -- too many users starting auctions off at too high a price and too many users posting things that they know wont sell. Listing fees will eliminate both those problems.
I'm reading a lot of the arguments posted here and I can't believe it!!! You yourselves speak of the low quality items that you put on Yahoo! auctions and how you auction off your high quality goods on ebay. And then you complain that your sell-through on Yahoo is low??? You're the same people that are auctioning crap at a starting price of 115% of market price. Of course you're not selling anything!! Who wants to buy your grandma's recipe for pudding for $24.99? Why don't you try listing something that is appealing to anyone but an idiot?
To all of you, I say: take your auctions elsewhere. If you're not willing to be serious about auctions, then its people like you that Yahoo! auctions doesn't need anyway. I'm sure that listing fees were instituted with you in mind. Once you're gone, the site will be cleaner, the listings will be of higher quality, more people will see my listings, and my sell-through will be even higher.
January 10th, I wont be saying goodbye to Yahoo, I'll be saying goodbye to all of you crappy sellers that have posted nothing but nonsense on these message boards.
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cyyyberpenguin
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posted on January 2, 2001 11:28:46 PM new
I'm leaving can't afford fees.......
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granee
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posted on January 2, 2001 11:35:07 PM new
JackWolfe, you're full of ****.
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outoftheblue
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posted on January 2, 2001 11:51:30 PM new
I'll be saying goodbye to all of you crappy sellers that have posted nothing but nonsense on these message boards.
You have to be kidding! I pay listing fees already on Ebay. I don't sell crap and am not a crappy seller. Neither are the majority of the good people that post here.
I use Yahoo to relist my auctions to avoid paying double fees on Ebay (if the item doesn't sell the second time around). That makes good business sense! Everytime you pay a listing fee on an item it reduces your amount of profit. Even if the item sells first time through on Yahoo it defeats the purpose of listing there for me, if I have to pay to list.
If you're not willing to be serious about auctions, then its people like you that Yahoo! auctions doesn't need anyway.
Wow, you are serious about your auctions. You list a whole 100 item per month. Some of us list that many in a week, or a day in some cases. Sorry if that sounds sarcastic.
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tsiminak
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posted on January 3, 2001 12:25:20 AM new
YAHOO! Just shot themselves in both feet with one shot. No customer support. Small percentage of sales compared to eBay. Higher percentage of deadbeat bidders. LISTING FEES? ON TOP OF THESE SITUATIONS!!!! I'll be gone when my current listings expire. I sell more on eBay in one day than a month on Yahoo! and I sell the same exact items in the same exact catagories. So much for JackWolfe's KNOW IT ALL Theories!
If Yahoo wakes up and smells reality by instituting a Final value fee only, I may return, but I don't think it will happen.
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Spreland
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posted on January 3, 2001 02:28:31 AM new
My slower moving items will go to Lycos. Which might be ALL of my items if sales don't pick up.
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keziak
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posted on January 3, 2001 02:37:03 AM new
My plan for 2001 was to aggressively include Yahoo in my selling strategy. Now I won't have to worry about how to do that. Forget it.
keziak
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deco100
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posted on January 3, 2001 03:18:39 AM new
So did I Keziak. In fact I went to start today and they sent me to verify my credit card, whatever that means, since I already gave them my credit card when I registered. Anyway, I couldn't do it, due to overload, I guess. Probably a good thing now.
Maybe I'll try Lycos. The options are getting more limited. I went to dutchbid since they bought out Golds and it looks like it will take a loooooooong time for them to build up any inventory.
Back to the fleas and the brick and mortar and egreed.
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heike55
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posted on January 3, 2001 03:44:54 AM new
I'll be going back to ebay. It's not that much more money than yahoo will be charging, but at least they have the traffic.
heikejohn everywhere else!
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paintpower
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posted on January 3, 2001 04:31:41 AM new
I haven't listed much on Yahoo, but what did sell the buyers didn't pay for! I am certainly not willing to pay for deadbeat bidders!
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ilene
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posted on January 3, 2001 05:04:05 AM new
GOING--
I have no problem with a final value fee (and I do a lot of sales on Yahoo) but I am moving 95% of my stuff off and sticking with Ebay. Yahoo just doesn't have the traffic to justify a listing fee. Things usually sit for months before they get a bid. These same items get multible bids on ebay each week.
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gem10a1
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posted on January 3, 2001 05:23:38 AM new
listing fees would be okay, if they gave you
up to 3 free relists! No more free relists???
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jfpnatl
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posted on January 3, 2001 05:42:19 AM new
What will we be paying for, a storage bin??? Thats been my experience with yahoo. They just dont have the buyers to justify paying. So long yahoo!
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bartolocolon40
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posted on January 3, 2001 06:01:37 AM new
Remind me never to buy anything from JackWolfe, what an a**hole. Sadly, I will have to leave Yahoo. I can not afford the fees and the low traffic certainly doesn`t warrant imposing fees of any kind. It looks to me like they want to get rid of their auctions all together and I think this will effectively do just that. Its too bad, Yahoo auctions was a great thing while it was around. I can only hope that a similiar auction site starts up soon. Then we will just have to keep those creeps from Feebay from buying it out.
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