iucards
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:31:48 PM new
$1 to anyone who can tell me what term I violated in the auction below
iucards:
The following auctions have been determined to be in violation of
Yahoo!'s Terms of Service or Auction Guidelines. Please note that your auctions have been
deleted because this kind of activity is not permitted on Yahoo! Auctions.
You may wish to review the Terms of Service and Auction Guidelines.
Please be aware that any subsequent violation of these Terms of Service
could result in termination of your Yahoo! user ID, so please read the
Terms carefully.
The following is a list of auctions that have been deleted:
30453873(iucards)
Thank you,
Yahoo! Auctions
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pegasus777
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:45:24 PM new
I looked at the auction and I have NO IDEA why they would have closed it. Maybe Mideast country items were banned along with nazi Germany items???
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stockticker
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:50:52 PM new
Could it have been deleted because in your auction description you show a link to your web site where you explain why you are unhappy with Yahoo??
Irene
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iucards
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:54:38 PM new
well, I have over 400 auctions up with that same link. AS far as I can tell, they cant control what is said about them off of their servers. Besides, I belong to the Yahoo club for auctions where Yahoo is being ripped to shreds. Why would they care what is on my site if they are not censoring their own servers?
msn and yahoo messenger IUCARDS
[ edited by iucards on Jan 9, 2001 10:18 PM ]
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joice
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:57:47 PM new
iucards,
Your sig line has promotional wording in it and needs to be edited. Will you please take out the "look for me" part? You can say what your username is, but not the wording in front of it.
Thanks for your cooperation,
Joice
Moderator.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 9, 2001 10:10:08 PM new
Hey. I'm CSbattleflag from the Yahoo message board on Yahoo. Thanks for the stamp lookup. Anyway, seems the message board over there is slowly following on the heels of their image uploader and turning to Yadung tonight.
This Nazi and Klan thing is nuts and typical of the liberal socialist mindset. They are well into their silent history censorship campaign.
Can you imagine there being a whole sector of stamps and coins that will be banned from auction on YooHoo???
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iucards
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posted on January 9, 2001 10:24:12 PM new
You are more than welcome. Sorry that you will not get rich off of those. I am going to bed now and get ready for a nice "polite" phone call to yahoo tommorow. lol should be fun
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 9, 2001 10:25:49 PM new
Yeah! You messed up my early retirement plans! But then, so did Yahoo!!!
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gem10a1
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posted on January 9, 2001 11:42:33 PM new
It is very obvious why your auction was cancelled.
There are rules and auction ethics.
From your auction,
If the sytem will not let you bid, email us and we will work something out.
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auroranorth
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posted on January 30, 2001 01:07:32 AM new
You are missing the point, there was no reason that hundreds of sellers had thousands of auctions cancelled at the same time other than that old thing GREED
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iucards
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posted on January 30, 2001 08:33:24 AM new
gem10a1,
The line about emailing me was because I had the auction feedback requirement set to 5. However, if someone had a solid rating on Ebay and took the time to email me, I can go to edit the auction and lower the limit.
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rolllanotherone
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posted on January 30, 2001 08:58:25 AM new
IUCards-
The problem is IRAN.
Go to Yahoo's auctions, at the very bottom in tiny links click on "Guidelines"
In the first few paragraphs there should be a "Quick Refference Page" link. You will get a brief overview of what is being disallowed, it will save you some money on that phone call and frustrations of listing something unknowingly, The big E also has an excellent source of prohibited items.
Auctions are mail order services, like mail order services, they have to follow federal guidelines. You will also find information at the USPS site.
And Thank You, I have that stamp! it's in my Unknown pile waiting to be identified. it's beautiful and just became more valuable!!!=)=)
If the world collected stamps, it would be a better place wouldn't it?
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rolllanotherone
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posted on January 30, 2001 09:03:01 AM new
P.S.
Where's my buck? =)
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 30, 2001 09:31:22 AM new
Okay, I went to the suggested guidelines page and still see nothing that prohibits Iranian stamps. In fact, there's Iranian stamps and coins all over Yahoo. What am I missing?
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amalgamated2000
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posted on January 30, 2001 09:46:18 AM new
From the guidelines at:
http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/html/guidelines.html
4. Any item that violates any U.S. export law or regulation, including any items subject to the terms of the U.S. embargoes against Afghanistan, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Serbia (former Yugoslavia), and Sudan.
Since Iran is subject to an embargo, you can not offer for sale ANY items that are produced there.
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rolllanotherone
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posted on January 30, 2001 10:26:58 AM new
Rebel- thank you for asking the question to help understand this dilema.
amalgamated- thank you for clarifying this and the additional link, I just needed the buck =)
Iucards-
Please pass the buck to amalgamated.
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outoftheblue
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posted on January 30, 2001 10:47:51 AM new
Since Iran is subject to an embargo, you can not offer for sale ANY items that are produced there.
Big Brother is watching.....
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figmente
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posted on January 30, 2001 10:53:12 AM new
As that stamp was obviously (considering the image) produced long before the Islamic Republic was established, if the Iran embargo was the reason for cancelation, it was incorrectly applied.
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anthro1966
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posted on January 30, 2001 10:58:17 AM new
Figmente is correct in his analysis. By the same token, Cuban stamps printed prior to the initiation of the embargo are perfectly legal.
The embargoes were implemented to halt trade with those respective countries, not halt the sale within the US of items ever created there.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 30, 2001 12:02:05 PM new
If I'm not mistaken, the stamp in question was printed when Iran was still known as Persia. In any event, why are there still scads of everything you can imagine produced in Iran all over Yahoo and eBay. It's not like the feds aren't watching auction sites.
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iucards
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posted on January 30, 2001 12:12:32 PM new
At the time it was cancelled, I considered the possibility of the link to my site or the iran thing being the cause. Now even if considering my words about the feedback minimum were taken wrong as they were earlier in the thread, I had over 500 auctions running with the same tag line AND at least 10 other stamps from Iran that were left alone. I think the Yahoo communazis went after alot of the sellers who were very outspoken here, in the sellerzone and in the two chats. I know many others who spoke out experienced the same problems. This was Yahoo telling me how all powerful they were that they could cancel my action and stick out there tongue and taunt me when I asked why.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 30, 2001 12:16:23 PM new
For some reason, the Yahoo bunch reminds me of the old Rocky and Bullwinkle Show...
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rolllanotherone
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posted on January 30, 2001 01:56:05 PM new
I wish someone would put this much thought into Which came first, the "Chicken or the egg"
could it be that the restrictions may apply to direct U.S. embargo's?
The Third Reich was not a direct threat to the US, we just helped.
Iran, and the others are direct U.S. threats much like Castro ?
Rebel please explain the differences in this, the egg thing is blocking my thoughts.
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RebelGuns
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posted on January 30, 2001 08:12:40 PM new
rolllanotherone - I'm not sure I know what you want me to explain. The past is the past. I can understand an embargo against a country's products, whereas that country continues to represent a viable threat to the United States or its interests because the revenue generated through taxing said products could be used to promulgate hostile acts. However, I have never known an embargo to include antiquities from that country, especially if they are not being sold by an interested party, and doubt that they do. Selling vintage stamps and coins does not in any way benefit the country of their origin.
The same basic principle applies to Nazi regalia, and I don't believe Yahoo is banning the genuine stuff. I think the ban is applied to modern and/or relatively modern items that could be said to be glorifying the Third Reich.
Finally, regarding Klan regalia, I'm not sure what is and what is not being banned here. However, I presume (and probably wrongfully) that the same criteria is being applied as per Nazi items.
Never-the-less, all bans can only be imposed with a varying amount of hypocrisy. What about things Native Americans might find offensive or symbolic of the genocide inflicted on them? What about Serbian regalia? Russian? Communist? etc. etc.
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rolllanotherone
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posted on January 30, 2001 08:41:41 PM new
Rebelguns,
I had found a page in Yahoo a few weeks ago in regards to ban on Serbia, it was noted as Serbia(Yugoslavia) now it says stictly Yugoslavia.
Unless this page is somewhere that I can't find now. Which is much of the problem. The guidline links are at the bottom of every page but the more direct info is hard to find, when you do find it, you forget how you got there. I used to use ebays guidelines and probitions to help me avoid listing unknown offensive material in amazon, they have quite the information resource.
You explained it much better thanks.
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