toomanycomics
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posted on May 1, 2000 07:47:16 AM new
or is it we are getting deadbeats at Yahoo?
I have contacted my bidders about 9 days ago... no reply from them
So I thought to myself: well maybe they didn't get my email the first time, so I sent them another email.
3 days later, still no response...
still waiting..
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kasmoon
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posted on May 1, 2000 11:42:18 AM new
Well Yahoo is known for extremely high deadbeat rates in general. What kind of feedback do your bidders have?
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tinkm
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posted on May 1, 2000 01:38:37 PM new
Ive noticed an increase in deadbeats myself. Most of mine were from "new" bidders.ive changed my auctions to accept bids only from bidders with at least a feedback rating of two...see if that works. Im tired of waiting for email replys that never come, havent been ignored this much since i was married.
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moonmem-07
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posted on May 1, 2000 01:45:24 PM new
Deadbeats have been down for me. I did leave one a neg today. No they are -12. I might have 1 a month.
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startrek
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posted on May 1, 2000 05:06:37 PM new
don't feel bad on yahoo their are alor of dead beat bidders, but their are alot of good bidders as well. we have been on around 15 months on yahoo, we are on other sites as well. here is the breakdown. on our auctions past year... hits---31,284... bids---3,192...successful close's---2,239
bidders who won, and paid on time---1,621...bidders who paid late---376...bidders who never paid---242-deadbeats... on my blacklist total 242 bidders who never paid. i hope these figures help someone... my two major choices for auction houses, ebay, and yahoo, one you pay, the other you don't.
respectfully submitted:
[email protected]
house of star trek
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toomanycomics
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posted on May 2, 2000 04:11:35 AM new
they are all 0 feedback :-P *sighs*
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dman3
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posted on May 2, 2000 02:46:40 PM new
I have two dead beats on yahoo auction right now. I wont give there names one was new user the other was had a rateing of two and also had up 30 auction of there own I got no return reply from them. yesterday I found the buy who had there own sales pulled all there auctions and they now have a -3 rateing the other was new now has 4 neturals for no contact and 1 neg that I give them.
I have another winnier on an auction that ended monday I sent the eoa 5x there email is not valad they were a new user I noticed today this new bidder has a -5 rateing for invalad email address 
I cant use the user names here but we all might have the same dead beats
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paraduck
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posted on May 2, 2000 10:31:24 PM new
.Hi there, I am a new seller, I have been at it for 3 months. After going nuts over people not responding after winning an auction I devised a plan to keep myself sane and happy. I send out my winning letter and wait 4 days. Most of the buyers reply and then things get moving. I try to stay polite and use humor and it works 98% of time. If I get no response in 4 days I send out 2nd. letter and that is it. I just relist the product. I will not spend time on the problem, I focus on the one's who want the product. It has saved my sanity. I just delete the folks who are not interested and move on. Sometimes I am pleasantly surprised and someone will e-mail me or a money order shows up 12 days later. Then I send a pleasant thank you and send out the item. Life is too short to focus on the dead beats. And that is what they want so don't give it to them. I hope I don't sound know-it-all because I don't. It was just a breakthrough for me. Sally
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comic123
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posted on May 3, 2000 05:21:16 AM new
Are you just starting Yahoo?.
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paraduck
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posted on May 3, 2000 06:51:43 AM new
Yes I am new to Yahoo.
I am a nurse, and I have just started this auction selling. I find most of my customers to be wonderful people. I've "met" folks from Russia, U.K. all over the U.S. and even someone working on the Alaskan Oil Line! I really love having interactions with them. It has given me a sense of how wonderful this world is.
I have had some terrible e-mails from people who are clearly not happy and want to make me angry too.
But generally I find my customers are the best. I really think there is hope for the human race!
Sally
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comic123
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posted on May 3, 2000 08:04:42 AM new
I don't know about the entire human race but I thought I was selling online to make money. As long as they mail me money, I don't care if they are nicey nicey to me.
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paraduck
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posted on May 3, 2000 08:27:53 AM new
I agree with you, this is about selling our wares. I also think that the relationship between the buyer and seller is very helpful to greasing the deal. Being new I have done a few mistakes, and because of the relatoinship with my customer it worked out O.K. I am a small company, I just wanted to feel out what other sellers' mission statements are and how they do things. Please don't confuse my niceness with lack of savvy, if you know what I mean. I'd like to know what you think.
Thanks Sally
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ljbannan
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posted on May 3, 2000 04:34:06 PM new
No deadbeat bidders yet, knock on wood! In fact I had one bidder sent me an extra $5 by mistake and told me to keep it! I did send an extra in with her package.
I have/am dealing with one CRAPPY seller though. My fault, didn't read his feedback before I bid. I check it daily now since it seems to be the only way to get a response from him. Every day it drops some more. Sad.
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toomanycomics
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posted on May 3, 2000 06:45:02 PM new
comic123 nope have been using Yahoo for over a year....
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tinabme
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posted on May 22, 2000 06:26:40 PM new
I have been selling on Yahoo for sometime now and I had a few problems with a couple of bidders last week, not sending payment and not responding to my emails. I left them bad feedback and told them I would change the fed back if they would send the payment and in turn they left me bad feedback saying I never sent them the product. What do you do with neg. feedback from buyers like that. They never got there item cuz they never sent the payment......go figure
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dman3
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posted on May 22, 2000 06:48:37 PM new
What I would do with the neg feed back from a nonpaying bidder is nothing . leave a reply like if buyer pay there bids I sennd there items, and let it be long drawn out flames in feed back just dont look good .
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antqe
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posted on May 25, 2000 12:10:53 AM new
I've found that the buyer not responding to your first email isn't ALWAYS a sign that they don't intend to pay for the auction.
My "congratulatory" email with the total due, terms, etc. asks them to let me know their address so I can prepare the package. Some respond and some don't.
But most of those who DON'T respond send me their payment before I get around to emailing them again (I seem to be more patient than some sellers--my reminders go out about 2 weeks later).
I would NEVER wait three days to contact a bidder. Those who really, really want the item will be frantic by then, and those who were sitting on the fence will have cooled off into the "no-pay" zone!
My deadbeat rate seems to be dropping as payments through PayPal increase.
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hawkwand
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posted on June 1, 2000 06:11:01 PM new
I have over $250.00 in pending sales!
If I don't get a response, or the money, in two weeks, I send a note to the buyer I'm going to relist the item.
Unfortunately, I sell cards, comics, and toys. I sell mostly to kids and their ratings are zero. They have to start somewhere. I guess I'm the proving ground.
I don't post negatives. I don't blacklist. Life is too short. Maybe they'll come back and come through... who knows?!!!
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aschmits
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posted on June 2, 2000 07:53:34 AM new
I sell on Ebay and noticed that ALOT lately that the number of deadbeat bidders is increasing!! I don't know why...and I have always offered paypal, but I have posted non-paying alerts 7 times in the past month-and-a-half, which is pretty bad considering I have only 25-30 listed at a time! I have been thinking about posting on Yahoo, which I buy things on, but I look at everybody's feedback and get nervous...I've seen people with -17 feedback!! Doesn't anyone get booted?
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kasmoon
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posted on June 2, 2000 11:06:17 AM new
Aschmits, they get booted when they hit -3 total. When you see someone with much higher neg rates you can tell by the auct end dates listed that they did all of the bidding in a 2-3 day span. By the time sellers enter the 3 negs to get them booted they have quit or changed ID's (I have never understood wasting time placing phony bids). It appears they are still active if you don't check the dates. Some sellers blacklist & neg deadbeats quick and others give 30+ days to pay so the negs keep coming.
Yahoo sellers learn when a payment is late before you waste ANY time with more emails or holding the item to recheck the feedback to see if you've been hit by a spree bidding deadbeat. I learned the hard way-bidder with no negs wrote he was paying-nothing rec'd in 10 days-I wrote again, he responded he forgot & would send that day-I waited 10 more THEN finally thought to check his record. He had compiled 30 negs over the past 18 days-if I had checked his record 3 days after auct end I would have seen he already had enough to be kicked out-I would have blacklisted & relisted then. All the negs said he strings sellers along with payment promises but never comes through plus changes ID's & does it over and over.
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paraduck
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posted on June 2, 2000 11:54:46 AM new
My philosophy is that I will get a certain amount of folks who will not pay.
I think it is inevitable unfortunately.
Yahoo says that we can relist after (I think) 7 days. I have different letters set up and if I get a slow response I send one of my letters stating that the item will be resold by a certain date per Yahoo guidelines. I give the customer 10 days after the auction: they get a "winner" letter on the day of winning, then one reminder letter four days later if no response,then the final one two days after that. That seems to get the buyers who want it to move, and the ones playing games to stop responding. Deadlines are great things to help separate the legitimate buyers from the game players. I estimate that I get 10% no pays.
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