posted on May 12, 2000 11:36:09 AM new
You know I am not even bothered anymore when people cancel their bids. I carry 10-20 units of each item I sell. I sell on eBay as well as my web site. Not saying that sales are doing great but its going. I e-mail bidder once & if they don't bother to reply...that's it. I don't bother to harrass the bidder pleading him to mail me money.
There are a lot of bidders out there who just isn't responsible enough to follow through on a commitment & that's a shame. Try not to get too upset.
posted on May 12, 2000 06:17:40 PM new
I would be happy just to see some bids this month my auction have had no bids yahoo or ebay.
I think people are getting really nervous about the stock market and interest rates and other things going on thats makeing people think more before spending anything.
I think were in for a few years of slow down and debt paying down again like the end of the 80s.
its starting to look more like in order to keep these sales going were gona have to break out the good antiques, the gold the silver and invest are sales into bonds and money market funds to get the best return .
if the fed raise interest rates again the tech stock are gona fall on there face big time and that yahoo ebay merger may become reality just for ebay to survive amazon as well may have to merge or be sollowed by someone like yahoo ebay or AOL as well .
im not a doom sayer for the most part but if the feds really want to control inflation is raiseing interest rates really the way to go after all inflation is the incress in price correct me if im wrong but incress in interest is inflation
what geenspan and the feds are honestly out to do is kill the hightech market and incressed wealth in the country over all.
this market goes against logical thinking use to be you work hard bust your butt to make money or to start a multi million or billion dollar company. now all you do is get a domain name a few backers and start an IPO offer you never need to show a penny in profit for thousands to make millions.
the more millionairs you have the more millionaires you can make with out showing a dime in profit.no profit no taxes and you can finish this old story for your self
posted on May 13, 2000 06:22:18 PM new
I had someone bid on a 3.50 item and won,
shipping was a 1.20.. After they won the auction they wrote and told me that they could not afford the item at this time and was sorry for any trouble they caused...
posted on May 13, 2000 07:35:05 PM new
wired1
Thanks for the post, at least I know that I am not alone!
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."---Mark Twain
[ edited by jwoodcrafts on May 13, 2000 07:35 PM ]
[ edited by jwoodcrafts on May 13, 2000 07:36 PM ]
posted on May 14, 2000 06:14:18 PM new
azI CAN TOP THEM ALL !!!
AFTER SELLING ON YAHOO OVER 16 MONTHS...
i have had over 200 cancelled bids, that
didn't pay, here is the list count down top 10...
number #10. my dog was very sick, had to take him to the vet, and forgot.
number "9 my wife was sick and had to go to the hospital.
number #8 my daughter was sick and went to the doctor with her.
number #7 my house was robbed, and i lost everything.
number #6 my house burnt down to the ground, and i have no place to live.
number # 5 my son or daughter was bidding with out my permiassion.
number #4 my wife left me, my husband left me.
number #3 i loss my job.
number #2 my money was stolen.
number #1 my computer crashed, and i loss everything i had.
posted on May 17, 2000 05:10:20 PM new
"'I think I bid to much. I am dissappointed. Can I have my money back'"
Oh, I got one of those awhile back. But she wasn't so direct; her email went something like "oh jeez, why did I bid on this stuff, I feel really stupid now. It's all nice ane exactly as described, but I shouldn't have paid so much"
This was for a massive lot of MIP vintage sewing trims. She paid something like 10 cents each, or about 10% of new. (Note that the vintage stuff is considered more valuable than "new" by some sewers as it's usually better quality or completely unavailable otherwise.) I did a quick search on honesty.com, found that her high bid was about half the average high bid for the same lot, and emailed her the link with the simple message "The attached information may make you more satisfied with your purchase."
No response, but no neg either. You know, I'm extremely generous on refunds, but this backhanded, passive-aggressive whiney
stuff got my dander up - no way was I going to help her on this one.
posted on May 18, 2000 05:36:32 AM new
My description was accurate and I had 2 pictures to go along with it. There is really nothing that the bidder could complain about actually. I think it all boils down to the fact that you just can't please some people.
They bid against 2 other bidders to win the item. Going higher and higher with every bid. So they must have wanted it!
I expected a underserved neg, but so far, thanks goodness, I haven't gotten one.
I just don't know, it is like they are trying to make me feel quilty because they bid on the item. Like I said before, no one made them bid at all. And to be quite frank about I wish they hadn't.
"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."---Mark Twain
posted on May 21, 2000 02:23:39 AM new
A year ago I sold 4 TIMES as much as I did the last two months.
I now use a pencil to write out the auctions that closed with bids, so I can ERASE them when there's no payment.
Getting money out of the rest is like pulling eye-teeth these days. ("Please be patient with me. I got snookered on a doll I bought from someone else, and I'm not a happy girl right now." OR "I've been selling on ebay and Yahoo for two years, and I never HEARD of having to pay sales tax. I didn't budget for that." OR "I've been so busy shipping out my own sales, I haven't had time to pay you."
When they tell me they've been in an accident, or lost their job, or their house burned down, or their computer crashed, I give them the benefit of the doubt--it's sometimes true.
And when they respond right away with "I can't buy this", I cancel the bid and relist without leaving feedback, grateful they were at least courteous and honest enough not to leave me hanging. (Which will change if ebay and Yahoo merge--Yahoo's FREE auctions will be gone, and no-pays will cost me $$$ just like they do elsewhere, where I'm not so forgiving.)
Then there's the winning bidder who hadn't replied or paid me in the 3 weeks since his auction closed (I hadn't given up on him yet), who went on a rampage one night and won 13 of my auctions. (Thanks to the blacklist, it won't happen again.)
I get a payment 3 MONTHS after an auction closes, and they're upset that I don't still have the item??????
Since when is $2.75 an excessive shipping charge for a book???????
I'd rather they not pay than to buy something and complain about the price. They don't want to RETURN it--they want to KEEP it and get a PARTIAL REFUND from you, jwoodcrafts. It's happening more and more. Suddenly, everyone's a cheapskate.
posted on May 21, 2000 08:40:35 AM new
J some people are just irreponsible & have poor upbringing. I would just tell them to forget about it & then black list them. I've never gone into a war of words with any bidder. some bidders do e-mail me with their sad story while most don't even bother to reply. Great, no big deal...I file for a NPB in eBay & in Yahoo relist & blacklist. I don't have time to listen to all the bidder's family & pet problems. I mean I am not paid to hear that you needed money because your mutt has tape-worms & need to visit the vet.
posted on June 2, 2000 08:59:16 AM new
Antqu
Don't fall for the excuses! My first 'deadbeat' said that she had a 'family emergency' (sound familiar?) and couldn't pay. So, I did some checking on her and she had 50+ auctions of her own going on!
Another one said that he didn't realize that he bought the same movie from someone else two weeks ago, could he cancel? Then was surprised when he got neg feedback! I checked, he found the same movie for .25 cents less and bid on that one!
In my auctions, I simply state that the buyer agrees to respond within 3 days of notification and send payment within 14 days....or will receive neg feedback, etc.,
Lately, it hasn't helped. Have been getting more 'deadbeats' lately than I have ever gotten before!
-And if you haven't gotten your money after 3 weeks, chances are.....you won't! Also, state your shipping charges in your auction, and if they have questions about it, they should contact you before they bid. Then they really can't say anything! And no, $2.75 isn't alot for a book, but some people know that bookrate costs $1.13. Just be specific about it being for the box, envelope, insurance, etc., Good luck!!!
posted on June 2, 2000 10:50:15 PM new
Aschmits, the "family emergency" seems to be a popular generic excuse with bidders for late payments and NO payments.
I can live with the "I lost my job and can't afford it" as long as the buyer lets me know RIGHT AWAY. But I absolutely ABHOR it when they promise to pay, then two weeks later when I email again they promise to pay, a week later they promise to pay, and on and on and on.
Book rate only costs $1.13 if the package is less than a pound (which few books are)!! Is THAT what everyone thinks, their book postage should be $1.13????
It has to be PACKAGED in something, and free post office boxes (never the right size) are only for priority mail, not book rate, which starts at $3.20 and goes up from there in $1.10 increments per pound. I often sell 4-6 pound books.
I marvel when I see auctions of 8 ounce items that state shipping fees of $5.00 (uninsured), very common on Yahoo. How do the sellers get away with it??
I've found my biggest complainers about shipping are OTHER SELLERS (who gouge their own customers on shipping charges, from the looks of their auctions, but don't want to pay me $1.00 to package their book or 85 cents to insure it).
posted on June 4, 2000 09:02:03 PM new
Well, I have to say that my experience is not typical to what others here have said.
I sell mostly on Ebay. I watch the bidders - I put a note on my auctions that I have a right to cancel any bid at any time and I do when I know it's someone who doesn't understand what's going on or has bad feedback from others.
However, I must say that I get paid 9/10 auctions at least. Of course, I don't keep that close a track - unless it's a large item such as a computer. There are SO many people selling computers on Ebay right now it's just ridiculous. And they're offering illegal software so I've started reporting them to Microsoft and Ebay.
We sell on legit products and we pay for them --- a lot --- but who wants to pay some huge fine over something as lame as software? Besides, it's illegal, dishonest and just plain stupid. If you can't afford it, get a job already. I have one guy who emails me once a month asking if he can come over that night and pick up the computer and will I end the bidding early so he can afford it blah blah blah. Ok, so here is one thing I've learned: Anyone needs/wants something immediately in a hurry unless it's some regular boxed item and they want to come pick it up I tell them to get lost. They never come through and as far as I am concerned they are charlatans anyway.
I think, for the most part, you treat people honestly and they are the same back. Some aren't, of course. But four-letter-word them. Life's toooooo short.
Nothing is worth worrying about because worrying doesn't help. Do something or forget about it.
posted on June 7, 2000 09:36:27 PM new
This is one of my major complaints of Yahoo. At least on Ebay if A person deadbeats 3 times they get the boot. Yahoo does nothing. And on ebay I can ask for a contact phone number. Not from Yahoo.
posted on June 9, 2000 07:09:17 PM new
You get excuses? Wow, I've had plenty of non-paying bidders but almost none with excuses rather than just nothing at all. It is most disconcerting when they outbid others and respond that payment was being sent then don't follow through.
