paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 11:13:13 AM new
Ok, this is a biggy. The last few days I have been his with some Real strange ones! I have a winner in Indonesia that has been trying to pay for my auction. He says that he had a problem with his accout. I suggested all the normal things, Int'l Money order etc. Well, to make a long story short, He is paying me with paypal with another guys account email and TOTALLY different name. He sent me 2 payments and wants me to return one. I am a little scared. the reason why is that there was an alert that went out on Bidpay awhile back warning of this EXACT thing. someone paying for an auction and then having it shipped to Indonedia. Does anyone have PAYPAL'S PHONE NUMBER? Please?
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VeryModern
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posted on December 7, 2000 11:21:47 AM new
Absolutely DO NOT SHIP!
The odds that you are being cheated are 99.99999999%
Tell the buyer you will only accept BIDPAY or and international MO and make sure they know you mean it and I guarantee you will never hear from them again.
I went through this a couple weeks back..
BLACKLIST the buyer
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 11:24:55 AM new
Now I have someone's $$ sitting in my paypal account that is NOT mine. I need to contact paypal on the phone I think!
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chasd7
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posted on December 7, 2000 11:43:24 AM new
I'dlet them sweat awhile, I would do nothing about the money. Let PP take care of it.
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 11:48:48 AM new
Thanks so much WHEEW! I feel so much better. You two have excellent suggestions that I will use. I was really stressing about it. I have so much to do and dont have time to deal with this. What I have done so far is to email them and called them. I live close by so to them so their toll number is local for me. I just called 411 - and asked for their phone number. It goes to their front desk and I was transferred to someone's voice mail but it is a start. If I get a better phone number for their fraud dept. IF there is one, I will share it with you all. Thanks again so much.
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:09:22 PM new
Very Modem, was someone in the same part of the world? What happened with you?
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VeryModern
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:21:33 PM new
yes, from Indonesia.
I started a thread about it, I will try to find it an pull it up.
On the paypal thing - prepare for them to freeze your account over this.. as is don't let other buyers paypal you money, you won't be able to access it until this is cleared up.
I will try to find the thread. Look for it on top in a few minutes.
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CharlieOne
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:35:38 PM new
paloma91
You sure are having your problems this month. Not exactly putting you in the holiday spirit. Hang in there though, we all are pulling for you!
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:39:51 PM new
CharlieOne, Thanks so much. I swear, I dont know what I would do without all of you. I cant believe this is all happening. I wonder if this happens more during the holidays or not or maybe it is just a run of bad luck for me.
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auctionee
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:42:10 PM new
I would recommend setting up a new e-mail account, add the new e-mail address to PayPal, and DELETE the original one (which I assume is the one you are using for your auctions). This will prevent anyone from sending money into your PayPal account until this is cleared up, in case your account is frozen. After it is cleared up, you can change it back if you like...though I would recommend keeping the different e-mail address so this won't happen again (if they want to pay you by PayPal, they would need to contact you and you could give them the PayPal e-mail address...then you just wouldn't give it to anyone in indeonesia .
Hope that made sense.
[ edited by auctionee on Dec 7, 2000 12:43 PM ]
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VeryModern
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:43:07 PM new
Traditionally there is more fraud holiday time in any realm you can think of. People are busy, stressed and distracted aka easy victim.
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 12:49:56 PM new
Well, if they are going to freeze my paypal account (I have some money in there now!) I can still set up another account with them? How? use a different credit card and email address? Is it easy to do. Oh My, lots more work but now I will know. Ok, I will get on it now
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yisgood
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posted on December 7, 2000 01:01:40 PM new
Do NOT send back the money. Paypal will accuse you of "laundering" it and take it out of your bank account. Withdraw everything in your PP account except for the suspicious payments. Contact PP immediately and tell them what happened and that the funds are sitting in your account for them to take care of. If you cant get through to them, email [email protected]. As long as you dont withdraw those funds, they have no legal reason to touch your bank account and you can stop them if they try. As for freezing your account, that's always been at their whim. Good luck and keep us posted.
http://www.ygoodman.com/payments.html
http://www.ygoodman.com
[email protected]
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 01:13:15 PM new
Ok, first step done: withdrew and sent to my checking account all monies in the account except for the $$ in question that the Indonesian person sent me. I also took my credit card off of the account. Was that good to do? Now on to creating a new Paypal account for myself. Oh boy, a new email address too? That will be fun.
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 01:27:55 PM new
Paypal wont let me set up a new account. It says I already have one. Now what?
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yisgood
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posted on December 7, 2000 01:38:35 PM new
Paypal will let you open a separate business and personal account if:
you use two different email IDs, credit cards and bank accounts. I think you may need two different names, too. I opened one in my name and one in my wife's. Back in June, they shut down mine claiming it violated TOS. Then they let me re-open it. I could use my name becaue it kept telling me that name was taken. So I opened one with my middle name and work address and after it was verified, I went back and changed it so now it's working right. But it is a business account and the other is a personal. You cant have two personal accounts.
Hope this helps.
http://www.ygoodman.com
[email protected]
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 01:49:34 PM new
Well, I guess I am stuck for now, since I dont have a business address or a spouse I can assign this too. HUMMMM ... Thinking
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labbie1
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posted on December 7, 2000 04:47:42 PM new
Paloma FIRST before doing anything else, go into your PRESENT PP account and change the e-mail on that account to another e-mail address (Yahoo, hotmail, whatever) with an obscure name that no one can send money to if your account gets frozen. Nothing worse than watching money being deposited day after day that you can't touch because the account is frozen!
Then, delete your present e-mail address from your current PP account.
Do it NOW!
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labbie1
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posted on December 7, 2000 04:55:30 PM new
As for another name...Do you have a cat? Dog?
I know of a woman who has a cat named Thomas. She puts her phone number under his name. Whenever she gets mail for Thomas, she knows where it came from.
As for the address, well, friend, neighbor, relative?
I am not advocating that of course...
If you have any doubts about your checking account, once you receive the money from the current transfer, you can cancel the transit number for PayPal--it's like doing a stop payment. I am unsure whether you can restart the transit number once you have stopped it though--check with your bank...
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auctionee
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posted on December 7, 2000 06:45:07 PM new
Just for clarification of my earlier post...
If the e-mail address on your existing PayPal account is the same one you use to correspond with your bidders, the most important thing for you to do right now is to change the e-mail on your existing PayPal account. If you don't, bidders can continue to send money to the existing account which could be frozen at any moment and you would not be able to retrieve those funds until PayPal decides you can. If you change that e-mail address to one that your bidders don't know, if they try to send you payments through PayPal they will not go into the account and can cancel them and send them to you through another method until this is resolved....and you won't have the frustration of having your legitimate money in an account that might be frozen.
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paloma91
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posted on December 7, 2000 07:40:53 PM new
Well here is what happened. Thanks so you all, I did NOT send him any money and it is now in the hands of the authorities. Paypal did not freeze my account because as you all suggested, to leave the $ in question alone. Which I did. The Credit Card was stolen WHEW!What a stressful day! Hugs to all of you for helping me through it all!
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labbie1
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posted on December 8, 2000 08:07:22 AM new
I'm glad it is turning out well!
Happy Holidays!
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