whyizzit
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posted on December 22, 2000 07:38:13 PM new
NOW I've heard everything! New bidders can only win 5 auctions - until proven worthy of rating. Whatever~ Has anyone seen this latest attack on customer on-site rights? Between ebay and Yahoo - it's a tossup for "mind control" these days
Please if anyone understands the above -- please elaborate or comment. Thanks!
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jwpc
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posted on December 23, 2000 05:43:08 AM new
Where did you see this?
IF it is in fact a new policy, I can certainly understand the reason, particularly this time of year when the nuts are lose, and kids on line abound - at least the limit keeps the cranks from bidding on a zillion auctions for "fun."
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msmas
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posted on December 23, 2000 06:23:37 AM new
Goes into effect December 27.
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jblantz
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posted on December 24, 2000 10:26:59 PM new
It makes sense to me. Any protection against scams is a plus. As a new buyer, I can't think why I would need to jump in and buy everything up on my first time. Once the person has proven themselfs let them buy up anything they what.
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petpost
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posted on December 24, 2000 10:50:43 PM new
It's a GREAT idea. In a no-fee environment, it makes new users understand that they can't go around bidding bazillions on auctions when they have no intention of paying. It takes work to gather ratings on Yahoo! and sellers have to more competitive to attract loyal customers.
pet post
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justjoan
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posted on December 25, 2000 08:22:42 AM new
In case all haven't seen it, Yahoo has an ANNOUNCEMENT board and it will link you to each new thing they are starting up.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/phtml/auc/us/promo/announcements.html
I like the 5 auctions for beginers idea.
They are certainly going to stop the out and out get carried away.
Of course I put in my ads save shipping with muliti buys, but then I give my e mail address, so if they want to buy 10 items they can without even having to bid.
I'm a big Buy It lover.
Joan
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amalgamated2000
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posted on December 25, 2000 03:13:57 PM new
I still believe that if this does end up protecting sellers, it's an unintended side effect.
I think the real purpose here is to keep people from shilling their own featured auctions in order to get rebates.
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lstacy6
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posted on December 25, 2000 07:16:17 PM new
there is a road bump here though. I am new to Yahoo and i do think it is a much friendlier site no doubt about it. But I have bought a coupleof things so far and paid immediately through pay pal and the seller never posted feed back...So now what do ya do? Makes it tough... any thoughts or remedies for this one?
Check out my auction... type in custom corset. they are fun and you know you need one. LOL
Lisa
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jblantz
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posted on December 25, 2000 09:17:56 PM new
One way around your problem is to signup for pay direct and have your address verified. Anyone signed up for pay direct with a verified address is exempt from this rule. The way I read it is you cant have more than 5 concurrent bids (running bids). So old auctions that someone didn't give you feed back for will not really effect you from still bidding. You cant have more than 5 active items (which you are the winning bidder) until your feedback is 5+. It's a shame they have not provided your feedback. I would e-mail them and explain how you would like to reach 5 feedback and if they found your payment good, could they please provide your feedback. I really hate people who don't provide feedback. I think the seller should provide feedback once he has your cash. He has all the cards at that point. I don't like sellers that hold the feedback over your head. When I sell, I give it as soon as I am paid. If they don't like my product or service, they are free to truthfully post feedback. Due to fraud, Yahoo is making these moves. If there is a loop hole for a scammer to cheat the system and take someone to the cleaners, he will. Face it, without this rule, there will be people with multiple accounts. They will bid high on the items similar to ones they are selling to make theirs more atractive. They will close the "buy now" type auctions etc. Elimating the competition and never honoring their bids. Some might even use fake credit cards to jump in and buy tons of items without restriction. The seller is abused for offering a good deal and trusting the auction system. Yahoo is trying to keep the trust in the system. I have 100 feedback on e-bay but 1 on Yahoo. This rule effects me and I am all for it. I plan to list my items on Yahoo from now on at least until E-bay buys them out and jacks the fees.
Jeff
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CAgrrl
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posted on December 26, 2000 02:26:57 PM new
I think Amal is right about this. It is clearly (now that I think about it) an automated (and misguided) way to attempt to cut down on shill bidding.
I still think it sux. A lot of new Yahoo customers are not auction newbies at all, and they have great ratings on Ebay & Amazon. This is one fantastic way to tick those people off.
I could see this hurting my sales. I personally have my auctions set up with a lot of incentive for people to bid on/buy multiple items from me. During the Christmas holidays almost every customer I had bought more than one item (many of them bought 5 and more items to take advantage of combined shipping), and almost ALL of my customers were Yahoo newbies.
As for deadbeats, I don't think this will do much to discourage them. And anyway we already have credit card verification for that. I really think this policy will do more harm than good.
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