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posted on December 15, 2004 12:53:04 PM new
Does anyone know about Bavarian bristol lamps made in W. Germany? A woman I do consignment for has these beautiful lamps and wants to sell them. Two years ago a woman who sells on ebay told her they are worth $1500.00 for the pair. Are they really worth that much? The owner wants me to put that much reserve on them. I can't find any on ebay like them. They still have the label on them saying they are bristol, hand blown and made in W. Germany. She said her mother bought them in the 40's. Any help is much appreciated.

[ edited by paws4God on Dec 15, 2004 02:51 PM ]
posted on December 15, 2004 02:48:47 PM new
They are beautiful but I would be surprised if you could get that much for them now. But hey if she is paying the fees - go for it. Hope you get paid even if they don't sell or she agrees to let you drop the price so that they will sell.
A few months ago I put a $500 reserve on a ca. 1900 French bronze & crystal lamp - it went to $400 with no takers on a second chance. So I relisted without a reserve - started it at $24.95 and it ended up at $625. So reserves can keep the down the bidding.
Good luck

posted on December 15, 2004 02:52:15 PM new
I'd do some straighting and tightening to make them look better,for that kind of a bid.

posted on December 15, 2004 02:57:46 PM new

Yeah, I know. I had to go over to her house to take the pics and was in a hurry. I wanted to get the Vendio in-house experts opinions before I actually do the work of listing. I may have to go back just to re-take a few. I don't know if I will list them anyway with that price I think she is throwing away her money. Another antique dealer told her they were worth $50 each. I think the real value is somewhere between the two extremes.

posted on December 15, 2004 04:26:25 PM new
You never know until you put them on. Maybe you and your seller can come to a mutual agreement about the reserve. Worth a try.

I put on a cartier purse and I didn't know it was real. I started the bid at 19.95 There were no takers. I relisted it with the same price and a BIN at $50.00 still no takers. I tried one more time with the same BIN. Some one bid and wiped away the BIN and it went for $125.00. The buyer wrote to me and said it was an original and originally it sold for $500.00 in the 70's.

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posted on December 15, 2004 05:02:36 PM new
I've been burned a couple of times by friends who "know" what their item is worth and insist on listing it for that - or putting a high reserve on the item. Next time, I'll charge $10 to write and assemble the listing plus all listing fees from the "friend" up front. Otherwise it just isn't worth the effort.

posted on December 16, 2004 12:05:56 AM new
I am confused. If these are
"Bristol" lamps, how could they be made in Germany? I thought "Bristol" were English.
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posted on December 16, 2004 01:15:40 AM new
Good question Sanmar. I thought the same myself the first time I saw the description. You are correct, Bristol glass was originally from England and is technically a cased glass with enameled decoration.

She said it was labeled, so obviously the label must be referring to a "bristol style".

Also, the West Germany designation would date the lamps after 1949 since the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) was not proclaimed until May 23, 1949.

A quick search of Bristol lamps shows your seller will be lucky to get $50 each for them.
[ edited by ltray on Dec 16, 2004 01:28 AM ]
posted on December 16, 2004 06:18:27 AM new
Here is a close-up of the label. It says W. Germany so that is all I can go by.

Duh! It says the BASE is made in Germany not the glass. So I guess the glass part is made in England.
[ edited by paws4God on Dec 16, 2004 06:19 AM ]
posted on December 16, 2004 06:23:50 AM new
the one on the right looks like the leaning tower of pizza

posted on December 16, 2004 07:25:16 AM new
Isn't Bavarian German. I don't think anything was made in England. Maybe you should Google these?

posted on December 16, 2004 07:31:51 AM new
Well, you might just want to take a look at this auction...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20704&item=4340057734&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Maybe not as pretty as the ones you have shown, but looks similar.

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posted on December 16, 2004 08:33:15 AM new
I did google these but came up without much.

posted on December 16, 2004 09:01:15 AM new
Paws,I don't remember what city you are in. Your seller would probably get a better price by taking these to a local auction house that has a reputation for selling quality items.

Put up for auction in a combined estate sale, these should do well. They are nice lamps, if someone were to put them back together correctly.

I've noticed that this type of glass does much better at physical auction or on consignment in an antique store. Their appeal does not do well online.

With that said, it will still be hard for your customer to realize more than $100 for the pair.
posted on December 16, 2004 09:07:00 AM new
Thanks ltray. The only reason it is crooked is I forgot to push it over. The glass isn't attached to the metal and slides easily. They really are prettier in person than in the photo. I will try to explain that the woman who told her they are worth $1500 on ebay obviously didn't know what she was talking about. She supposedly looked them up on ebay and saw a pair going for that. The one cta found is by the same company but I think a matching pair would do much better than a single but not by much I'm sure.

Thanks everyone for your input.

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