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 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on August 1, 2005 12:52:55 PM
He said, "dictatorships are bad unless I'm the dictator."

Please show me anywhere President Bush has spoke those exact words.

This is allowed in the "checks and balances" system you speak so highly of, so why the complaint?



Ron
 
 logansdad
 
posted on August 1, 2005 04:43:05 PM
The quote Mingo was thinking of is this :

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."

http://www.konformist.com/2000/bush-dictator.htm


Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."

President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."

Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 1, 2005 05:14:47 PM
Said as a JOKE....while laughing.....but of course, the left here will twist just about anything to fit their agenda...even implying it was said in a serious manner, rather than the context it was joked about in.

shame...shame on them.



"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 1, 2005 05:36:53 PM
Notice just how OLD this is....and the left here is still working to twist away....

President Bush speaking:
"I told all four [congressional leaders] that I felt like this election happened for a reason; that it pointed out-- the delay in the outcome should make it clear to all of us-- that we can come together to heal whatever wounds may exist, whatever residuals there may be. And I really look forward to the opportunity. I hope they've got my sense of optimism about the possible, and enthusiasm about the job. I told all four that there are going to be some times where we don't agree with each other, but that's okay. If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier... [Bush chuckles, audience laughs] ...just so long as I'm the dictator [more laughter]."

[Washington, DC, December 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-elect[/i]




"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on August 1, 2005 05:45:13 PM

So, he didn't say that dictatorships are bad. Thanks for clearing that up.



 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 1, 2005 05:48:40 PM
I guess that's your sad attempt at humor, helen.


What it proves is that crowfarm/MG and logansdad are MORE than willing to deceive posters here by stating UNTRUTHS..


doesn't surprise me you'd miss that fact, helen. It's all about deception with most of you lefties here.




"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter

And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on August 1, 2005 05:55:59 PM

No, linda. I was just stating an obvious fact, based on your blow by blow explanation of exactly what George Bush said.



 
 classicrock000
 
posted on August 1, 2005 06:09:14 PM
blow by blow?? heh-heh









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 Helenjw
 
posted on August 1, 2005 06:30:03 PM

I knew that you wouldn't miss that.




 
 Bear1949
 
posted on August 1, 2005 06:38:11 PM
Sneaky, underhanded, dishonorable and totally against the spirit of democracy


Only when used by anyone other than a liberal

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Recess appointment

A recess appointment occurs when the President of the United States fills a vacant Federal position during a recess of the United States Senate. The commission or appointment must be ratified (i.e. approved) by the Senate by the end of the next session, or the position becomes vacant again. Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

Presidents have sometimes used recess appointments to fill vacancies with individuals who might prove difficult to confirm, or who face staunch opposition within the Senate. The recess appointment is made in hopes that, by the next session, opposition will have diminished. In recent years, however, a recess appointment has tended to harden the attitudes of the opposition party, and confirmation then becomes even more difficult.



Scholars and legal experts disagree as to how long the Senate must be in recess before the President may make such an appointment. President Theodore Roosevelt made several recess apppointments during a one-day recess of the Senate.

Recess appointments have been made since the earliest days of the republic. President George Washington appointed South Carolina judge John Rutledge as Chief Justice of the United States during a congressional recess in 1795. Because of Rutledge's political views and intermittent mental illness, however, the Senate rejected his nomination, and his appointment lapsed.

New Jersey judge William J. Brennan was appointed to the United States Supreme Court by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1956 through a recess appointment. This was done partly with an eye on the presidential campaign that year; Eisenhower was running for reelection, and his political advisors thought it would be advantageous to place a northeastern Catholic on the court. Brennan was promptly confirmed when the Senate came back into session. Eisenhower made two other recess appointments.

Ronald Reagan made 243 during his two terms in office. George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments during his single term.


President Bill Clinton made a recess appointment of Bill Lan Lee as assistant attorney general for civil rights, when it became clear that Lee's strong support of affirmative action would lead to Senate opposition. Similarly, when the Senate did not vote on his nomination of James Hormel to be Ambassador to Luxembourg, Clinton made a recess appointment. Many people felt that the Senate's inaction was because Hormel was an openly gay person, and when he was appointed became the first such person to serve as a U.S. ambassador. Clinton made 140 recess appointments over two terms.\


President George W. Bush appointed several judges to U.S. courts of appeals using recess appointments after their nominations were subjected to a Senate filibuster by opposition Democrats. One, Judge Charles Pickering of the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, withdrew his name from consideration for renomination when his recess appointment expired. As of July 31, 2005, Bush has made 105 recess appointments.

On 1 August 2005 Bush made a recess appointment of John Bolton, to serve as U.S. representative to the United Nations. Bolton has also been the subject of a Senate filibuster. The filibuster concerns documents, which the White House refuses to release, which Democrats suggest may contain proof of Bolton's abusive treatment and coercion of staff members, or of his improper use of National Security Agency communications intercepts regarding U.S. citizens.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Recess-appointment



"Why, it appears that we appointed all of our worst generals to command the armies and we appointed all of our best generals to edit the newspapers. I mean, I found by reading a newspaper that these editor generals saw all of the defects plainly from the start but didn't tell me until it was too late. I'm willing to yield my place to these best generals and I'll do my best for the cause by editing a newspaper." --Robert E. Lee [ edited by Bear1949 on Aug 1, 2005 06:42 PM ]
 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on August 1, 2005 09:06:25 PM
I kinda figured there was more to the story, he was just elected President for his first term.

What helen no humor? You people need to lighten up about President Bush and just remember we won't vote for him in the next election.


Ron
 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 1, 2005 11:40:06 PM
LindaTwelveK, what untruth?

Please point it out.

You said , "What it proves is that crowfarm/MG and logansdad are MORE than willing to deceive posters here by stating UNTRUTHS..""

Bush said it .


And since he has repeatedly acted like a dictator I assume he wasn't joking....remember, he can smirk and giggle like a twleve year old through anything.


 
 cblev65252
 
posted on August 2, 2005 05:01:17 AM
When backed into a corner, out comes the Clinton digs. It's getting old, very old. Now, I'm off to vote. School levy on the ballot today. I've got about 45 minutes to decide whether or not I'm voting for it. It would be easier to decide if the CEO wasn't making almost $400,000 a year for a failed school system.

Cheryl
 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 2, 2005 07:19:43 AM
Now Cheryl, "Clinton digs"? This was a thread about how terrible it was that President Bush made a recess appointment. When it was pointed out "so what", it has been done since George Washington and President Clinton used this process 140 times, the rebuttals suddenly become "Clinton digs".

Just curious. In my opinion, if the superintendent makes $400,000 and presides over a "failed school system", what's difficult to decide in voting. Why throw more good money after bad?


[ edited by etexbill on Aug 2, 2005 07:27 AM ]
 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 2, 2005 07:41:50 AM
posted on August 1, 2005 11:40:06 PM new edit
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LINDATWELVEK,WHAT UNTRUTH?

Please point it out.

You said , "What it proves is that crowfarm/MG and logansdad are MORE than willing to deceive posters here by stating UNTRUTHS..""

Bush said it .


And since he has repeatedly acted like a dictator I assume he wasn't joking....remember, he can smirk and giggle like a twleve year old through anything.



 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 2, 2005 08:02:35 AM
"""doesn't surprise me you'd miss that fact, helen. It's all about deception with most of you lefties here. """"



Deception...as waiting until a recess to push through your nominee ???



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on August 2, 2005 08:39:19 AM

I missed no fact, mingo and I'm surprised that you would repeat linda's message which deceptively alleges that I did.

Repeating their messages which contain lies only serves to emphasize their attempts to deceive and spin to those who don't know better.



 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 2, 2005 09:27:52 AM
Helen, I was using LindaTwelveK's quote based on her """It's all about deception with most of you lefties here. """"
Sorry I included the part with your name.
My response was about using deception....and the fact that this administration uses it as an everyday tool.

And LindaTwelveK always expects others to answer her question but sure has a hard time answering my very pertinent questions.

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on August 2, 2005 09:58:05 AM
I knew that....

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on August 2, 2005 10:04:16 AM

I'm sorry if I sounded too defensive mingo. I understand your point.



 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on August 2, 2005 10:28:40 AM
Mingo I think your choice of words is a little off. What Pres Bush did was not deceptive. It was right out in the open. He used the powers of the Presidency. Anyone of the elected officials to the presidency could and have done, it. There is nothing deceptive about it.

 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 2, 2005 10:56:23 AM
dblfugger9: you're wasting your time.
They see what they want to see.
They believe what they want to believe.
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:05:50 AM
[i] dblfugger9: you're wasting your time.
They see what they want to see.
They believe what they want to believe. [/i]

Uhmm...That's correct ETex it is called an opinion, since we are not yet all mindless robots, opinions are still permitted..well.. the last I checked they were anyway..maybe next month they will not be allowed..who knows? MM

 
 mingotree
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:08:18 AM
OK, how about conniving, underhanded, sneaky, devious, manipulating, by-passing the spirit of a supposedly democratic society, using dirty tricks instead of going through congress, which BTW allegedly represents the people of America.
Yup, lots of things are legal...but not all legal things are ethical or moral or show high principles and standards.

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:14:52 AM
You're right Mingo..snake in the grass, slithery sneaky snake...

 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:16:57 AM
"It's called an opinion". Alright, maggie, respect someone else's opinion then.

I don't even consider mingo/CrowFarms rantings to be "opinions" anymore, so I won't waste my time addressing them.


 
 etexbill
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:26:39 AM
What is with your mood today, maggie?

That new computer acting up? What do you expect from a PC??
 
 WashingtoneBayer
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:29:01 AM
sneaky how maggiemuggins? He has said before they recessed he may do this.


Ron
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:30:12 AM

Etex said, "I don't even consider mingo/CrowFarms rantings to be "opinions" anymore, so I won't waste my time addressing them."

Good. It will benefit everyone if you don't waste your time trying to formulate a response worthy of reading.


[ edited by Helenjw on Aug 2, 2005 11:32 AM ]
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on August 2, 2005 11:30:24 AM
Etex...everyone is entitled to have their own opinions..but there is no rule saying you have to respect the opinions of others,our president has made that crystal clear..

I agree it would be a nicer world if we could all be respectful of others and disagree nicely,but you know as well as I do that on the subject of Politics and Religion people feel strongly on the positions they take and to keep it polite is near impossible..all it takes is a "you libs" or "you repugs" and the battle begins..

I know you are an intelligent person, that's why it is difficult for me to grasp why you can't see the truth..

 
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