posted on August 14, 2001 04:05:42 PM new
No, James.
Realistically, a parent can only know what their child tells them. Unless, of course, the parent accompanies the child everywhere. Yea, like that's going to happen. A teen would rather be caught dead. Even the best kid can get into mischief once in a while.
However, in this case, it looks the mother of the 15- and 17-year-old sisters is aware of their on-line activities. There is a picture of her with a girlfriend in the youngest girl's biography.
The argument could be made that the mother doesn't know, but I would bet momsy is making a list and checking it twice to add to her daughters' lists.
posted on August 14, 2001 06:44:36 PM new
I can't see how any parent could overlook an operation such as this. The expensive gifts should raise some serious concerns.
I only have one computer, so I would know right away.
This is not just a case of misbehavior. The fact that a child considers themselves "meat" indicates a long standing and serious parent/child relationship problem.
posted on August 14, 2001 07:15:02 PM new
Maybe the parent is just as sleazy as the kid. Being a mother doesnt necessarily mean that the word "good" goes with it.
posted on August 14, 2001 07:22:24 PM new
Helen, I was thinking that if the parent (lets not hold our breath though) saw spaz's thread of what was done to that runaway girl, they MIGHT wake the hell up. Or maybe the GIRLS themselves would wake up.
posted on August 14, 2001 07:29:08 PM new
I read about another site which I don't have the address at hand, and the mother was in fact involved.
Her 13 year old was posing in swimsuits, underwear etc., at their passworded pay site. While there was no mention of nudity mentioned, you can guess the type that are patrons of the site.
In a little over a year, the site had raked in over $100,000 - all for the daughters "college fund". LOL !!
posted on August 14, 2001 07:58:09 PM new
I don't like to see mothers viewed as scapegoats and blamed for every misbehaving child but like Hepburn has pointed out, this could possibly be blamed on the mother.
It's just too unbelievable to think that this could happen without a mother and a father's knowledge.
Look at all the parents who exploit their little children in beauty pagents.
Zaa Zaa Gabor said, "If we had not been pretty, I think we would have been drowned like little dogs. That's my mother!" she said.
So it's not too far fetched to believe that mothers are involved in this vulgar exploitation of their children.
That stalking thread is so horrific that I have trouble reading it. But I doubt that the parents were directly involved in that case.
posted on August 14, 2001 08:05:53 PM new
I dont think the parents are at fault on the stalking case either. What I meant was, if the mother of the girls on THIS thread saw what can horrors may happen via the internet and flaunting "the goods" just to "get goods", they would realize just how dangerous this game is. Then again, any mother that would think "its cool" to have their daughters college education paid for by using their bodies in such a matter, she might not really care.
posted on August 14, 2001 08:07:29 PM new
I have a business associate that is a nice fellow - but his sister is a moucher who travels from relative to relative looking for free room and board while she "visits."
She visits various sites and passes herself off as her 14 year old daughter with the goal clearly stated of marrying her of to some sugar daddy that can support the two of them until they can work out a bigger payout. It would not surprise me to read of her murdering some mark after marketing the girl to him. There are no morals at all there. It is simple fear that keeps her from just straight out pimping the kid.
What is amusing is that she is so distainful of the people who she fools online into thinking she is the daughter BUT she never considers the possibility they are not who they say they are! -- DUH.....
Yes there are parents who woll approve or help the girls do this.
posted on August 14, 2001 08:43:49 PM newHelen That's exactly what I was thinking... Adding the links to the article was completely uncalled for.
Personally, I think what they're doing should be against the law. It's a form of child abuse. Even if the parents aren't aware of it I would consider that severe neglect.
posted on August 14, 2001 09:47:11 PM new
I think it is entirely possible that most of the parents are not aware of what their kids are up to. Too many have bought into the idea that their kids must have exactly the same rights as adults and that they, as parents, have no right to "invade privacy," control or guide actions, etc. etc. etc.
Heck, some kids could be running a brothel in their bedrooms or building bombs and the parents would never know, as they don't have the "right" to go into said bedrooms or question their kids about their activities...
posted on August 14, 2001 09:54:48 PM new
Hmm. I think my earlier point was that sometimes parents - just don't know! I did things that my parents didn't know I did. I probably did some things that they did know about and I only thought they didn't. Some things I can safely assume they guessed, some things not. I never did anything as unsafe as this but suffice it to say, you can give your kids space and they can abuse it and if they're good you'll never know. You might even have had a wild past yourself, consider yourself so savvy and think "thank God my kids aren't doing what I did!" and they are doing the very things that you did - they're just as good at hiding it as you were. This is incredibly serious stuff. But I wonder how parents really are to know, particularly if they aren't too net savvy?
posted on August 16, 2001 06:41:34 AM new
For the girls who are minors, I agree whole heartedly that this is a very unhealthy activity. And I agree that the parents who know this is going on with their minor children are either very stupid, negligent, or exploitive.
For the girls who are not minors, I have no problems at all. I've always wondered how it came to be that prostitution is illegal.
A man takes a woman out. Primary reason more often than not: to get lucky (a tacky euphemism, but one known to a lot of people). He buys tickets to a show, dinner, if they're in a city where most folks don't own cars, he forks out money for car service. Drinks afterwards. He spends quite a bit of money. Outcome: he may or may not get lucky, but everyone approves of this scenario whether or not they will agree with the premise that most men initially take a woman out to get lucky.
A man contracts with a woman for sex. He spends the same amount of money as the man above. He gets lucky. She has no false expectations. No one approves.
Sex sells. It always has, and unless people allow themselves to be psychologically castrated by the morals police, it will always have a fascination.
I'm absolutely disgusted by the minor children doing this, and by the parents that know, and by the sites that allow it.
Even the best kid can get into mischief once in a while.