luvbugg
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:20:06 PM new
I was too young when the last draft took place. How did it work? According to age or something else? Could you decline? How long did you serve? Are those always the rules for a draft or is each draft different? What happens if you don't register with selective services?
Thanks in advance for any info.
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krs
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:26:05 PM new
There won't be a draft, but men 18 years old are still required to register within 60 days of their birthday or face some criminal sanction or another.
At first it worked as if by chance with counties having monthly quotas to fill. Later 1969 maybe?, it was changed to a 'lottery' system in which registrants were assigned a number from 1 to 365 and quotas were filled by inducting eligibles by their numeric ranking.
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luvbugg
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:32:06 PM new
KRS
Why do you say there won't be a draft? Perhaps I am a worry-wort but if this does indeed take as long as they are speculating couldn't it be a possibility somewhere down the line?
Was it only 18 years olds?
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krs
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:40:29 PM new
Do you mean only 18 year olds could be drafted? If so, no. A person could be drafted until age 26 (I think it was).
In spite of all of the hoopla this will not be a war, nor will it slaughter enough Americans to warrant involuntary replacements. My opinion.
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luvbugg
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:44:09 PM new
KRS
Yes that's what I meant. My brother just turned 18 and he is very worried about a draft. I wasn't sure where to look for information on it but through lurking here I figured I could get him some info. Thanks.
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krs
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posted on September 21, 2001 03:51:57 PM new
por nada
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:13:26 PM new
KRS you better recheck your LAW they have changed the draft age all Men and Women from age 18 to 35 must register for draft and they are now talking of raiseing this to age 37..
ALso the draft was last ran by lottery the luck of the draw so to speak.
I was 17 when they ended the Draft in the 70s ..
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:26:18 PM new
A different perspective. We are are worried that our kids could be conscripted.
[ edited by GreetingsfromUK on Sep 21, 2001 05:30 PM ]
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REAMOND
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:30:16 PM new
During WWII the draft was from 18 to age 49.
I do not presently see a need for the draft as a large land war is unnecessary for present strategies. But that will change as the economy falls further.
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:33:42 PM new
Reamond. I always find your posts well informed. Edited for spelling!
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:39:05 PM new
Well I have been hearing more and more as this week goes on and so much more today.
That if they go into this country because its largely all mountains they will need a very large ground forces there is no way you will smoke out these terrorist from every hideing spot in there just with bombs.
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:49:26 PM new
dman3. The UK SAS will solve any problems.
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REAMOND
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:51:55 PM new
The mission is not to "smoke" them out with ground forces. Our men would get picked off too easily.
B 52's sent to the region don't do pin point strikes.
We will use intellegence to find the vicintity of the camps and individuals and carpet bomb to get them on the move.
Once any survivors begin moving they are much easier to find with air recon, even at night. Them come the attack helicopters and some strategically placed small ground forces.
Once these people are taken off balance by a few attacks, they start making mistakes out of fear.
However, all this assumes that any of these people we want are still in Afghanistan, or are even operating as previously.
For all we know the folks we want are hiding out in the refugee camps, which could be done quite easily, or slipped through the border weeks ago.
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krs
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posted on September 21, 2001 05:53:49 PM new
dman, (what COULD the 'd' be for?),
"KRS you better recheck your LAW"
No, I really don't give a RF, and I made no comment to the current upper age at all.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:00:48 PM new
KRS you better recheck your LAW they have changed the draft age all Men and Women from age 18 to 35 must register for draft and they are now talking of raiseing this to age 37..
I would be interested to see this law in print. It was my understanding that only males were compelled to register with Selective Service when they turn 18.
Also, if possible, I would appreciate a link to an article which refers to the possible raising of the draft upper age limit.
Thanks.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:07:46 PM new
I found a link on the Selective Service's FAQ webpage entitled, "Why Aren't Women Required to Register?"
The answer is here:
http://www.sss.gov/wmbkgr.htm
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GreetingsfromUK
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:09:41 PM new
So my UK kids have to go to WAR.Sob.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:11:23 PM new
And there was this:
WHO MUST REGISTER
Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service. It's important to know that even though he is registered, a man will not automatically be inducted into the military. In a crisis requiring a draft, men would be called in sequence determined by random lottery number and year of birth. Then, they would be examined for mental, physical and moral fitness by the military before being deferred or exempted from military service or inducted into the Armed Forces.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm
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Valleygirl
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:12:47 PM new
In 1971 my future husband graduated from H.S. and started college in Aug of '71. When the draft numbers were drawn for '72, his "lottery" number was 8. In other words, a ticket for Vietnam already had his name on it. So he didn't go back to college after that year ended because he would be shipping out in December. Just before he would have been inducted, the draft ended.
If one is required to register for the draft and does not, the person is not eligible for student loans, financial aid etc.
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:15:01 PM new
Well The D is the First letter in my last name.
That is what the D is for.
To be Honest, I wasn't asking for you to give anything for the information I provided here.
I was simply adding to the information you already provided SO you can keep your RF in your pocket for another.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:18:43 PM new
Chill out, guys, it's just a discussion, one about a subject some people have serious concerns about -- and with good reason.
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REAMOND
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:20:19 PM new
While only 18 year olds must register, this process has been going on for at least 15 years, so there are people at least 33 years old in the data base, maybe older, it depends when it started.
In any event, the govt will amend and change draft needs as a situation presents itself.
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:22:02 PM new
yes 18 to 25 were required to register when they reinstated signing up for the draft but they have uped the actuale age you can be drafted to 35 a few years back.
Also my daughter will be 18 in november and was notified that she must go to her local post office and register for the draft by the school.
She is sitting right here now telling me this is what she was told by the school Guidance counselor now if the school is right or wrong right I don't know but this is what they have told her..
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sulyn1950
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:30:04 PM new
I don't know if it's been changed in the last few years, but when my son (now 27) turned 18 he had to go to the PO and fill our a form registering for the draft and I was in the PO one day when a group of girls came in and asked for the form. They were handed one and when they left I asked about it and the clerk said ALL 18 male or females are suppose to do it, but many don't know that or just don't do it and since we had no war it was not really enforced. Of course I live in a tiny town most have never heard of even in my own state. Maybe we just do it and nobody else does.....
The draft in the early 70's was lotto style and had something to do with your birthday I believe????
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Microbes
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:33:38 PM new
I just checked the SSS link spaz provided, and I see nothing about females needing to register. I would think if Congress even considered making girls register for the draft, this would be all over the news.
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:36:20 PM new
sulyn1950
So maybe the confusion I am seeing here is that I should saying my daughter was told she is supose to sign up for the draft by law not that all are doing it
there was a few guys at work who just turned 27 and 28 who thought they were safe from draft who went and check and found that now they are not safe from draft untill 35 and if things keep heating up the age will be raised to 37 in the next few weeks and they will be calling on all men and women up to 37 to sign up at there local PO.
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gravid
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:42:20 PM new
Because we are in a state of emergency the president actually has the power to set aside most laws and regulations anytime he cares to - and could come very close to ruling by decree by declaring martial law and setting aside most rights of individuals and private industry. I am not saying he will - so far no president has gone that far - although Nixon froze wages and prices and made US money none-redemable for gold to governments by executive order. But it is well to know and remember he CAN.
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:46:42 PM new
Microbes
as I recall this was all over the news in 1982 maybe 83 when they reinstated draft sign up.
There was a bit of an uproar for a short time then all the excitement and talk about it just faded as Reaganomics and the good times started rolling so to speak.
now it could be they have not been pushing this I really don't know only what I have heard just in the past few weeks here since this attack and the talk buzzing around .
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ThriftStoreQueen
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:50:42 PM new
*If* women are required, I wonder how many "surprise" pregnancies would come up if the draft was brought back.
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dman3
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posted on September 21, 2001 06:52:37 PM new
gravid
Jimmy carter did this as well
Remember stagflation wage freezes price freezes odd and even days to buy gas depending on what your plate number was.
I remember it very well I was makeing like $1.79 an hour when wages were frozzen in the mid to late 77 to 79 .
Not long after the election when reagan took office my hourly rate went from $1.79 an hour to near $6 in less then a 6 month period of time..
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