moonmem-07
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posted on July 12, 2001 09:13:13 AM new
I have been having good luck on Bargain and Haggle or at least that is what I thought. I have quite a few I'm waiting over 10 days for payment on. I have sent some reminder emails and noone is replying. On one for them, the address is no longer good. Any one else having this problem there? Also it got really quiet since Monday.
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auctionee
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posted on July 12, 2001 09:24:25 AM new
WHEW! I was thinking I was the only one with these problems. I have been having the same experience. About the only difference is that I have not run across any "gone bad" adresses yet, and a couple of my reminder e-mails have responded to say "I don't want to purchase this". Activity on the site also died for me about Monday. 
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 12, 2001 09:35:35 AM new
Thanks! I'm glad it is just not me too! LOL I wonder if they were doing some advertising that was over on Monday? These last two mornings were the first in quite awhile I didn't have some offers waiting for me.
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mslargo
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posted on July 12, 2001 09:42:21 AM new
I've heard deadbeats are a problem on B&H. I've had a really bad experience w/one. She jumped in & offered $65 on an item I listed at $75. She contacted me immediately. Then nothing. Almost 2 weeks went by & I called her. She said she had no intentions of paying....she didn't have any $$$. Trying to do the right thing, I left her a "poor" comment. She waited about a month & did the same for me. Ugh! Can't win with deadbeats!
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saxkid
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posted on July 12, 2001 11:13:38 AM new
Yeah I seem to have gotten my first deadbeat. Responded right away saying she would pay by money order, never received. Sent a second email and no response. The deal closed on Jun 28, at the end of this week if I don't have payment in hand I'll have to leave poor feedback and ask B&H for a credit.
http://www.bidville.com/search/user_search.asp?user_id=blackcatgifts&shop_type=gallery&sort_by=
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ROY222
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posted on July 12, 2001 08:24:52 PM new
Yes, I have been having lots of deadbeats too. I am even having a worse time getting refunds for the sales charges. I have sent four requests to try to get refunds but still no luck.
Great site otherwise.
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MAH645
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posted on July 12, 2001 08:54:48 PM new
I've had a bunch of deadbeats,hope it doesn't continue to be this bad.Its a pain filing for all those credits.
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chenillec
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posted on July 12, 2001 10:34:24 PM new
I have told Bargain & Haggle to have a section for seller to request credit in the past. Like Ebay, requesting refund is easy. Apparently, they like e-mails. Getting credits can be difficult with them. I get at least 20 dead bidders each month. I wish B&H can check on each buyer's credit...
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 04:46:25 AM new
chenillec,
20 deadbeats a month on B&H??? You must be making a ton of sales to generate those kinds of #s!
This is why a site with an automatic payment mechanism makes sense. 
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kitcatclock
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posted on July 13, 2001 04:54:23 AM new
20 does seem like an awful lot. I have had a few deadbeats (as many as any other site I have used), but I find them to be really accomodating at giving credits.
Bargain and Haggle is still by far the most successful venue for me and I can handle a deadbeat or two (it happens to me on eBay quite often also).
-KC
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 13, 2001 07:35:37 AM new
Good morning KC
I agree with you! When Yahoo & Ebay first started, I got just as many "deadbeats"
and getting a refund was like pullimg teeth!
It looks like there is a few new sellers
that have'nt much experience or thay have had a lot of luck!
CS2
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 07:48:14 AM new
A ton of new bidders must be coming to B&H. They've been moving up the Jupiter Media Matrix Internet traffic rankings. Their newsletter says they were ranked 310th and moving up. This was prior to June. The site's doing well while flying under the radar. Plus they're adding TIAS users to the B&H family. Anyone know how many antique dealers TIAS brings in?
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:09:58 AM new
Hi eSeller004,
I saw the information! I only know one thing? I went from only a few weekend sales to bid's "all week long".
Maybe I should'nt say anything and keep a good thing to myself. (lol) I have a feeling B&H is going to be the (Silent Killer)!
CS2
[ edited by collectstocks2 on Jul 13, 2001 08:13 AM ]
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:21:39 AM new
Hi collectstocks2,
Maybe, and they've got the advantage of no listing fees for sellers. How can eBay compete with that?  Just keep the momentum going!
[ edited by eSeller004 on Jul 13, 2001 08:22 AM ]
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:35:07 AM new
I'm doing very good on Bargain and Haggle too. I just don't want the deadbeats to wreck it. I suppose that we have to have some since they can be a problem on every site.
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:54:37 AM new
Hi moonmem,
I don't think this is going to be the norm. for this site. But! if you check around, even the older site have no way of stopping this? Credit checks don't seem to matter! Even the amount of bids a new bidder can have!
But! With B&H If you have a feeling about a new bidder with bids on 5 or 6 of your best items. You can always "walk away"
I love it !!
CS2
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:00:00 AM new
I hope you are right! I also like the control the seller has. If they got this deadbeat problem under control or at least make it easier to request credit for deadbeats, they could be the best auction site out there.
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:13:09 AM new
Wonder what the average selling price is for B&H items? You can actually sell items priced $20 and up on B&H on a regular basis, whereas it's near impossible on sites like ePier and Bidville. Of course you can sell the elcheapo items that most shove on eBay too and still make good profits --- profits not just sales! I don't know where they're advertising but it seems to be working.
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:17:17 AM new
moonmem,
I think B&H will lead the way! As far as Deadbeats go? Yahoo and E-bay allowed them to run amuck and set a presidents for all other auctions.
I will leave bad feedback for the next seller to see!
I wish you a lot of luck.
CS2
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:22:30 AM new
Thanks CS2. I also leave feedback for nonpayment. I think I need to let others know. Sometimes I get negged in return but what can you do?
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:41:32 AM new
eSeller004,
I have been averaging around the $10 & $30 mark at a pretty steady rate for the last 3 months, and it just keeps getting better!
I tried ePier and Bidville for munths. But! I just could'nt make any real sale's? I only sold a few small priced items and that was mostly to other sellers!
Don't get me wrong! I liked the people on those sites. But, I did not need the social
contact!
I do this full time and I need the $$$$
"MONEY HONEY"!!!
CS2
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chenillec
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posted on July 13, 2001 12:25:03 PM new
Be aware on B&H deadbeats. There are many dead bidders on there. I have one buyer bid over 30 of my items with no intention to pay. After file the credit with B&H. I gave her 5 negative feedbacks. She retaliated by giving me 14 negative feedbacks. She insisit I was rude to her which is not true. As a honest seller, I am true to my product and treat my customers in friendly manner. I was never rude to anyone on-line.
I think she didn't want to pay and just think of some execuse to nail me. Now she is threathening me with e-mails and attempt to suit me. She is bidding on every single one of my item with $1. She has done this to many other sellers on barain and haggle.
I have written to B&H. Apparently, bargain and haggle are not doing anything about it. Including credit my account with so many dead bidders. I have not hear from them for a while.
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 13, 2001 12:30:01 PM new
Why doesn't BnH kick her off? Can you leave comment when someone leaves you negative feedback? I don't have any yet, but I'm sure some is coming very soon. I have one negged one person, but there are 5 or 6 current ones that I don't think are going to pay.
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chenillec
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posted on July 15, 2001 12:36:45 PM new
B&H has not kick her off. She is still on there happy bidding. She also has notified my bidders not to bid on my items. This person has lots of time on her hands. Right now, I don't have much traffic to my items.
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 15, 2001 12:55:03 PM new
would you tell me what catagory you sell in?
Don't give any names.
CS2
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chenillec
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posted on July 15, 2001 08:11:26 PM new
Jewelry
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MAH645
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posted on July 18, 2001 07:20:40 PM new
Bargain & Haggle is contacting my deadbeats,and some are agreeing to send payment.I think its a great site,and I've been getting sales almost everyday.
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 19, 2001 10:40:42 AM new
Good for you MAH645! I wish I could say the same thing.
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collectstocks2
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posted on July 19, 2001 11:27:56 AM new
"Good for you MAH645! I wish I could say the same thing".
(Hi moonmem). I hate to interfere, But! you seem to be repeating yourself on two diferent chats for B&H?
Everyone comes across deadbeats in any auction! I think if you were to contact B&H as many times as you have posted here, you
might feel better about the site?
I have asked for refunds and asked to have deadbeats removed and thay have done both for me!
It seems there is going to be one to take there place as soon as one goes. I think there doing a great job.
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moonmem-07
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posted on July 19, 2001 11:48:51 AM new
I have contracted BnH and requested FVF for the deadbeats thanks. I haven't seen any indication that my account has been credited. Bargain and Haggle has a higher percentage of deadbeats and slow payers than I have encountered on any other site. Sorry but true for me! I really like the site, I hope they can get this under control. As for me repeating myself, oh well.
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