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 jimhhow
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:05:52 PM new
Yes, Bidville has a lot of sports cards listed, and we are going to make the most of it with the Sportmania sale next month.
If this thread was supposed to be bashing, it failed.

 
 dimview
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:12:35 PM new
jimhhow >
Sportmania

Sportmania?

Interesting that the Bidville Cheerleaders would rather talk about waffles, breadsticks, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, and pass on an opportunity to promote a sale event?

So here's your *BIG* chance to tell us all about it.

 
 wlaschin
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:21:19 PM new
Dim,

I suspect the "waffles, rain and breadstick" comments are veiled attempts at bashing bidville and should be dealt with quickly and harshly. I have bypassed the moderators and called the Pope. I am sure I will get a response soon and then we will see who is sorry!...

Jim,

So good to see you back. Kind of like a train wreck, just can not keep from looking...



 
 ballsandstrikes
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:41:27 PM new
Strictly for educational purposes.
A ard in good-very good or below condition is often called a filler. Normally purchased by set builders who either are not condition sensitive or simply to fill a space until a better copy can be found. The term is also used in the coin and stamp hobbies.
When my Beckett store is open, I sell more commons than stars because most stores do not carry them.
http://ballsandstrikescollectibles.beckett.com/
 
 pattaylor
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:47:01 PM new
dimview,

Your repetitive negative comments are becoming disruptive and argumentative. Please tone it down a notch.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Pat


[email protected]
 
 cuff
 
posted on July 13, 2001 02:47:33 PM new
Interesting that the Bidville Cheerleaders would rather talk about waffles, breadsticks, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, and pass on an opportunity to promote a sale event?

MODERATOR PLEASE NOTE: As a BidVille Cheerleader I feel disrespected.


LOL the Pope! hahahaha

CuFF

oh... thanks Mod!
[ edited by cuff on Jul 13, 2001 02:48 PM ]
 
 jmcsportscards
 
posted on July 14, 2001 12:35:32 PM new
I am just wondering. Mrs stat , will you please compare ebay sportscard number to the rest of their auctions. I am almost willing to bet, ebay sprtscards are listed 2-1 compared to other auctions.



 
 lovepotions
 
posted on July 16, 2001 09:16:53 PM new
Even if there are 380,000 sport cards and 692,000 items total then 312,000 items are non-sport card items

right??

right.

312,000 items aside from the sports cards still out-number Yahoo and Amazon for total numbers of items with Yahoo hovering around 200,000 INCLUDING sportcards.

I too am a card trader although I buy/sell/trade Magic the Gathering cards the principal is the same. It is a big trading circle on a public auction site. Theoretically I am not buying or selling Magic Cards I am trading them. It is not a direct one on one trade. It simply involves many different people.

Just the other day I bought a lot of cards from this seller. My boyfriend had a bunch listed at the same site. Coincedentally the guy I "bought" cards from was the same guy that "bought" the cards my boyfriend was "selling"

I paid for mine

The guy paid my boyfriend for his

The next day we all realized we dealt with the SAME person. My boyfriend told me he had "bought" from this guy before a while back.

This was all on Ebay and out of an average of 20,000 Magic card listing on any given day what were the chances of this happening with a 16 million member user base???

Actually the chances were not that odd at all. All sellers there are frequent buyers as well and vice versa.

The baseball collectors are the same type of folks only different pictures on the cards.

And yes I do bid/buy $.05 cards to fill collections


http://www.lovepotions.net
 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 03:33:17 AM new
lovepotions >
312,000 items aside from the sports cards still out-number Yahoo and Amazon for total numbers of items with Yahoo hovering around 200,000 INCLUDING sportcards.

Right you are. There's about 350,000 non-sportscards listed at Bidville right now. Did you notice, though, that most are have opening bids of about a buck? And that the overwhelming majority of auctions that close with bids are also for a buck? Or that the range of items is, well, rather limited to say the least?

I've made one purchase on Amazon about two years ago, a set of paper "ephemera." Made alot of purchases at Yahoo, among them was my purchase of a five-volume set of books on the Columbian Exposition in Chicago in 1893.

Given its current "product mix," I'd describe Bidville more as an e-dollarstore.

By the way, there's now 692,412 listings, including 350,205 "sportscards" listings, or 50.6%.

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 03:56:17 AM new
Yeah! We're all getting ready for the big Sports Sale over at Bidville, so of course the sports related listings are going to increase. This large assortment of auctions includes all sports related items, not just trading cards.

BTW... I've had up to nine auctions running over at Yahoo for the past week. Not one bid.
Usually I have a little success there. On the other hand I've got active bids on BidVille. They're sports items (what a shocker)

hmmmmmmmm. Doesn't take a statistical genius to figure this one out, does it?


BidVilleDotCom


 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:09:55 AM new
Hi there BIdVilleDotCom,

That sure was fast, signing up at 3:42 A.M. and pointing out those robust sales at 3:56 A.M.

How come nobody started a thread about this sale, or whatever it is?

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:12:08 AM new
Well GEE dimview. I don't know. It's certainly no secret. I didn't know there was a waiting period before one could post here. Am I not worthy to comment simply because I am new?

BidVilleDotCom

 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:23:50 AM new
Probably someone who usually lurks, who has grown tired of ceaseless negativity from a few.

I noticed that epier has very few sports card listings. Guess everyone knows that Bidville's the place to be!

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:31:04 AM new
Seems to me when word gets out (Hey THANKS dimview!) the Buyers who frequent the sports categories are going to stop in at BidVille to see our MASSIVE sport listings. WoooooHOO!

BidVilleDotCom
[ edited by BIdVilleDotCom on Jul 17, 2001 04:31 AM ]
 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:33:46 AM new
yankeejoe >
Probably someone who usually lurks, who has grown tired of ceaseless negativity from a few.

Yeah, that's it. Probably.

I noticed that epier has very few sports card listings.

Yeah, ePier's got a slightly better "product mix", slightly higher sell-through rate.

Guess everyone knows that Bidville's the place to be!

For e-dollarstore stuff, sure. My three sales to date at Bidville - $1, $1, $1.

With the slightly better "product mix," my three sales to date at ePier - $19, $9, $6.50.





 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:48:53 AM new
Congratulations Dimview!

Did you list the exact same items on both sites?

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:51:47 AM new
I think one's sales reflect one's efforts.

Since you are obviously SO down on BidVille I would have to wonder what your 'other auctions' look like when compared to your listings on BidVille. May I see?

BidVilleDotCom

PS. This could become a case of "Put up or Shut Up".

 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on July 17, 2001 04:53:50 AM new
Speaking of product mix, in what categories does epier lead Bidville in listings?

 
 Excalibur131
 
posted on July 17, 2001 06:14:34 AM new
dimview>

Does the formula for computing a slightly better "product mix" go something like this: total "product mix" minus sports cards equals a slightly better "product mix"?

If that is the case, I wonder if you did not list your "product mix" on ePier if they would have an even higher sell-through rate with even higher sale prices?

Taken to the extreme, IF, in fact, the "product mix" was limited to just one listing for one item and that item sold wouldn't that be the highest sell-through rate of all? And IF that one item was a house or a car wouldn't they have a phenominal sales price?

Round and round and round and round and round and ...

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 06:47:08 AM new
I know that many Sellers start with nickle bids when dealing with trading cards. I never have. On average (from my own personal statistics) I make roughly $2.00 per card less .34 for a stamp. How much would I have made per card after deducting fee's at a Pay-Site? BidVille is THE PLACE TO BE for Sport Card Collectors wondering "Where have all the sport cards gone?".

BidVilleDotCom

 
 jimhhow
 
posted on July 17, 2001 09:11:23 AM new
Yes, I think it is important to keep in mind that there may be a lot of 5¢ and 10¢ card listings on Bidville, but what about just a slight notch above that? Is it feasible to sell a card for $1.00 on the pay sites.

I mean when you consider that the card that actuallysells for $1.00 may book at $5.00 to $10.00, the cost of retrieving this card from the expensive packs of today, etc., etc. THen to pay listing feess and FVF's with still no guarantee of selling on the first listing,, I think it only makes sense to list that card at a free site like Bidville.
Buyers, that is where you can find it.

 
 RB
 
posted on July 17, 2001 09:32:51 AM new
(stavecard's post of July 13, 2001 at 01:48:53 PM)

Very well said!

dimview ... what, exactly and in layman's terms is your point in all this?????

You know, we have both taken shots at BidVille due to their high number of sports card listings. But, I am now under the belief that there is a market for this stuff and BV ssems to be serving that market well.

Why not just let BV continue to serve that market and you do your thing on your site in your market?

Just for interest, the last time I checked epier and Yahoo, I couldn't find a single Emmy consideration tape (real one - not the boots on Yahoo, that is) at either site. Can't find them at Bidville either.

I guess I have matured a little faster than you have I can no longer see any purpose in bashing any of these sites anymore just because I can't find what I want there.

Why not use some of your energy and skills and help us get rid of the crooks and frauds on the auction sites instead?







[ edited by RB on Jul 17, 2001 09:35 AM ]
[ edited by RB on Jul 17, 2001 09:45 AM ]
 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:14:37 AM new
yankeejoe >
Did you list the exact same items on both sites?

Yes, all are duplicate items. Ironically, I have more items listed at Bidville right now than at ePier.

 
 jimhhow
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:29:29 AM new
>Why not use some of your energy and skills and help us get rid of the crooks and frauds on the auction sites instead? <

BRAVO!!!.....
sounds like a plan to me, might actually get something accomplished also.

 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:33:18 AM new
RB >
Why not use some of your energy and skills and help us get rid of the crooks and frauds on the auction sites instead?

I would think that would be difficult since the auctionsites have little reason to rid themselves of these type listings.

 
 dimview
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:41:30 AM new
Excalibur131 >
Does the formula for computing a slightly better "product mix" go something like this: total "product mix" minus sports cards equals a slightly better "product mix"?

Much of the large percentage of sportscards is due to sellers listing thousands of items one week, selling a few and relisting the rest, and then repeating the process with thousands more the next week, selling a few and relisting the rest, etc. This relisting syndrome is found across all the categories, but sportscard is the largest single category.

There was a Bidville's relist syndrome thread
http://www.auctionwatch.com/mesg/read.html?num=33&thread=10688&id=10688


 
 Excalibur131
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:46:42 AM new
dimview>

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I fail to see that your response answers my question.

Round and round and round and round and round and ...

 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:48:33 AM new
Is there an issue with relisting? If you had a brick and mortar shop, and something didn't sell in 7 days, would you throw it out? Or would you maybe wait for a buyer to come in and buy it?

 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:49:15 AM new
I didn't know that Bidville was the only auction site that allows relists!

 
 BIdVilleDotCom
 
posted on July 17, 2001 11:51:37 AM new
If the point was to prove that BidVille can and will meet the expectations of Sport Collectors, then you have done your job well.

It's absolutely no surprise to see who started the other thread. It was a negative thread, just as this one was supposed to be. Can we stick to this thread now, or would you like to start another, or bring in a few more existing threads to confuse the issue?


BidVilleDotCom
[ edited by BIdVilleDotCom on Jul 17, 2001 11:52 AM ]
 
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