rogulus
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posted on July 12, 2001 10:55:52 PM new
Have any of you people checked out this new auction site at http://www.itchybid.com ?? I think it has a lot of promise. What are your opinions?
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morgantown
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posted on July 13, 2001 12:21:07 AM new
You are joking right? One must use only Internet Explorer to view the site! Fat chance...
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relayerone
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posted on July 13, 2001 03:10:39 AM new
where does it say that? I just browsed the site using Netscape & Opera browsers & everything displays just fine. As to its potential thats hard to say. Looks like pretty much all the rest to me, & that name is truly awful lol
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SaraAW
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posted on July 13, 2001 05:00:14 AM new
eSeller004,
I'm sorry but I had to delete your post as it contained a link to a competitor.
Thank you,
Sara
[email protected]
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 05:12:09 AM new
Sara,
No problem. Didn't realize eDeal was an auction management competitor of AuctionWatch. However, I simply posted the link to eDeal to display how easy it is for anyone to create a rival auction site these days.
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rogulus
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posted on July 13, 2001 10:10:38 AM new
What I see on the site is a very healthy combination of charitable good will and good ol' American capitalism. This is an auction site worth patronizing, IMHO.
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 10:35:55 AM new
What marketing genius thought of the name itchybid???
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Mikecol
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posted on July 13, 2001 10:40:10 AM new
Promise for what?????
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gaffan
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posted on July 13, 2001 11:05:10 AM new
Thanks, Rogulus. I guess it's very fortunate for all of us that you (who never posted prior to starting this thread) and avatar007 (who wasn't registered until yesterday) have both happend along to let us know about this new site. Y'all aren't, like, associated with it in any way, are ya?
-gaffan-
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rogulus
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posted on July 13, 2001 01:33:09 PM new
Associated with it in a business sense? No. Do I know the people responsible for the site? Yes.
This is a message board dedicated to "Other Online Auctions." I'm aware of an auction site that chooses to emphasize charity and goodwill married with the concepts of "Profit Making" and "Capitalism," as opposed to promoting pure unadulterated greed.
The website just began operations a few days ago and I am unashamedly making a small effort to spread the word.
Nothing up my sleeve ...
Regards,
Roger Navarro
(ROGULUS)
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morgantown
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posted on July 13, 2001 02:16:53 PM new
I'm using Netscape version 4.77 [latest version]. This is what I get for a front page at www.itchybid.com:
[itchybid graphic]
In these trying times of browser wars, we know sometimes its hard to choose the
right browser for your system. Even know netscape is a fine browser we have
chosen to use internet explorer on our site. To continue you will need to shut
down netscape and launch this site with internet explorer if you do not have
internet explorer you may download it by clicking on the link below.
We would like to thank you for your patience and hope you enjoy our site.
ItchyBid
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PactSys
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posted on July 13, 2001 02:41:15 PM new
I received the same error as well in Netscape. That is a very strage thing to do. Why would a site do such a strange thing?
PS
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wallypog
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posted on July 13, 2001 03:48:52 PM new
Ooh, that is a very unkind thing to do! Even though it's a small percentage there is a huge number of people out there using Netscape. I'd use it myself but found that I didn't like it so went back to IE.
I spent a lot of time learning how to make web pages compatible with Netscape. Once you get it figured out it's simply a matter of knowing where to add extra HTML and the like. Granted, the tables still are a bit weird (and if someone knows how to correct that I'd love to know!  ) but it definately isn't an insurmountable task.
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http://www.wallypogsbog.com
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 13, 2001 06:27:44 PM new
ItchyBid uses some very advanced features, alot of these features use the xml dom objects inside of internet explorer.
I agree with wallypog that its pretty simple to make a basic web site that is database driven work in netscape as well, however certain features of itchybid will not work.
If ItchyBid gets enough people asking for netscape to work we will make a version that is compatable with netscape.
I hope this anwsers some questions anymore tech questions that i can anwser please let me know.
Hot2Trot
PS
wallypog the best way to get around both browsers is to use layers in your html.
if using reg tables the best way is to use percents on your widths. 
[ edited by Hot2Trot on Jul 13, 2001 06:29 PM ]
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AuctionPulse
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posted on July 13, 2001 07:00:27 PM new
Website design should accommodate all browsers, all versions or your not a really a player.
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elecdata1
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:33:38 PM new
If ItchyBid gets enough people asking for netscape to work we will make a version that is compatable with netscape.
Hot2Trot ~~ Are you associated with IchyBid? If so please identify yourself. We would certainly like to know who we are talking with!
Bill (elecdata1 here and everywhere)
[ edited by elecdata1 on Jul 13, 2001 08:34 PM ]
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morgantown
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:56:09 PM new
Really, this is the strangest thing I've heard in quite some time; a mass market web site compatible only with "IE" browser!
I design auction templates and complete web sites. It's a given that cross-platform compatibility is an absolute must - period.
What's up, Microsoft behind this outfit?
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 13, 2001 08:56:37 PM new
elecdata1,
Yes i am, i am one of the programmers that helped design the backend side of things.
i was told that people were wanting to know why we dont use netscape so i decide to shed some light on the subject.
Hot2Trot
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elecdata1
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:04:53 PM new
Thanks for your answer Hot2Trot ~~ I agree with wallypog that its pretty simple to make a basic web site that is database driven work in netscape as well, however certain features of itchybid will not work.
Can you expound on this? Would this be in the area of special features or security?
Bill (elecdata1 here and everywhere else)
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:17:21 PM new
elecdata1,
Sure i can anwser this, ItchyBid has some features like whats called "Itchy's Garage" a system designed for powersellers to house their products in a real warehouse and use our automated shipping system to manage your products. some other features are like the ones we have with fedex, where fedex will issuse you a call tag and come pick the product up from your house and ship it for you.
we also have a safehouse designed for buyers and sellers where when a sell is made you can have the product shipped to a bonded warehouse until payment is arrived then shipped to seller this works for both sides of the auction process.
there are more features than this but the ones above use xmldom objects to pass data back and forth to the warehouses and to shipping carriers for pickups etc.
in order to make this stuff work in real-time over the internet we decide the best platform was .net
even know .net does have certain draw backs like the netscape issuse. we feel it is the best platform for us.
btw
its rumored that netscape will add the dom object to their browser if this is true then itchybid will work in netscape.
does this help at all?
i know its kind of lengthy
Hot2Trot
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:36:56 PM new
Hot2Trot,
Just checked out your site. That's a nice clean design you have there for itchybid! Not cluttered at all. I like your features too like Online Haggling, Fleamarket, ItchyGames, etc. Are these services available now?
Its too bad Netscape doesn't support XML at this point. It's like Netscape's still operating in the Stone Ages! You'd figure AOL would try and keep them up to speed with Microsoft. Nope!  If you don't support XML, then you can't share data across websites and that's the biggest problem.
Sounds like you guys are ahead of the curve in many respects. Nice site too!
[ edited by eSeller004 on Jul 13, 2001 09:38 PM ]
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:44:19 PM new
Thanks, did you play poker? the games section is being designed for members to win itchybid prizes and merchindise. its pretty fun.
we actually havent launched yet it was suppose to be a very silent launch most of all those features you were talking about are done, and we will be adding them to the live site next week.
Hot2Trot
PS
I left you a message on the internal messaging system on itchybid
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:49:04 PM new
Hot2Trot,
Where's the Fee Schedule located on your site?
Do you guys plan to advertise and have funds allocated for it? A site with a great layout but no bidders is useless.
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elecdata1
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:50:17 PM new
Chuckling, like all good ole' boy's, I've played lots of poker, Actually got quite good at it!
Bill (elecdata1 here and everywhere else)
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 13, 2001 09:55:25 PM new
the fee schedule hasn't been put online yet i know it is extremly low with a percentage of every listing going to charity.
as far as advertising goes i wont comment on that except for the fact that since everyone behind itchybid are business people not much unlike most sellers.
we have not spent millions making the site and have practilly no overhead. which means we have a fair amount to spend on advertising this will not be done in the standard auction fasion of buying banners and poping windows on people we are taking a more old school approach to advertising in a joint effort with the partner distrubition companies we will combine forces and use their exsisting marketing people to advertise.
Hot2Trot
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eSeller004
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posted on July 13, 2001 10:05:03 PM new
Hot2Trot,
Thanks for the answers! That might be a better way to approach marketing. I think it was Amazon who used to appear in Postal Service commercials which immediately lent them credibility. Nice tactic!
So do you have an integrated payment mechanism like Half.com or Amazon which automatically pays sellers at the conclusion of an auction? This prevents deadbeat bidders!
And do you have a bulk lister for the site?
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elecdata1
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posted on July 13, 2001 10:11:39 PM new
I like poker, seems to bring out the best or worse in folks! Care to play some in a little while?
Bill (elecdata1 here and everywhere else)
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dennis1001
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posted on July 13, 2001 11:09:30 PM new
Hot2Trot, that's an interesting approach - use all the nifty proprietary MS stuff and wait for the MS to steamroller over everybody. Of course, after the court rulings this week, HP, Gateway, Dell, etc no longer have to include IE on their computers anymore, but I'm sure all the newbies will be willing to figure out how to download and install it just like they did for Netscape....
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timetravelers
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posted on July 14, 2001 03:03:37 AM new
HI, site Sounds different,looks good, a question..how about links to our websites in our auctions?? this is very important to many people since ebay has inflicted more restrictions & it is no longer allowed..gee it's just good biz...thanks
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Hot2Trot
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posted on July 14, 2001 12:28:30 PM new
timetravelers,
yes you can add links if you wish.
Hot2Trot
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