posted on October 2, 2001 10:00:19 AM new
JT - Glad to hear the KKK doesn't exist in Mississippi anymore. Maybe they all moved to Texas. What was it, two years ago, when those less than human monsters dragged a black man to his death behind their car?
They were found to be members of a white supremicist organization. They are now on Death Row in Texas. But as you point out, you've never seen any problems in Mississippi.
And oh yes, the gay college student beaten to death in Wyoming......but again, at least this stuff doesn't happen in Mississippi!
I look at the KKK as kind of a twisted Shriners club.......an old man's organization having trouble getting the younger generation to dress in silly hats. That doesn't mean the younger generation doesn't believe in what they stand for.
posted on October 2, 2001 10:00:28 AM newhjwNobody has said that the victims are responsible. 7000 people in the WTC are not responsible for the terrorism. American political policy is responsible.
Ahhhhh... so the US is responsible for the 7000 deaths, because they have been part of the global community. If they left that community they'd no longer be a target of such hatred.
Maybe those groups that are targets of the racist should leave that community and no longer be the target of such hatred.
posted on October 2, 2001 10:36:29 AM new
I'm not saying that the KKK doesn't exist, but it seems like it's time is running out. I agree with you ohandrea.....
".....an old man's organization having trouble getting the younger generation to dress in silly hats." I think they're having trouble getting people to join because it's so stupid with no real goal but to get angry at everything. The people that do belong, tend to be old has-beens.
I was thinking that now that they've seen REAL terrorism, their hate looks Mickey Mouse.
P.S. Gravid, your posts have had me in stitches for the past week. I love your sense of humour, so don't change a thing!!!!
posted on October 2, 2001 12:08:06 PM new
Did the KKK disband? I don't believe so. Their national headquarters is located in the Harrison, AR. area.
Upon doing a www search, there appear to be several organized groups in several states. Some I found were:
MI, IN, KY, MO, AR, Fl, Il, NJ, NC, VA, TX, WV, Al, DE, GA, SC, Ohio, LA, PA, TN and MD. So while we may not be 'hearing' much about them, it appears they're still around. In what numbers? Who knows.
On the KKK homepage they share about their 2001 16th Annual White Christan Heritage, Culture & Craft Festival.....and it says they're looking forward to their 2002 being even better.
posted on October 2, 2001 01:16:34 PM new
The Klan was alive in the 60s in Georgia. There's no reason to assume Mississippi is very different. I remember a Klan rally to which my father took my sisters and I - he was with the FBI. We sat in the car waiting while he worked. As I stated in another thread, I saw a lot of children in Klan robes. They would probably in their fifties now - not all a bunch of old geezers on rockers if they followed in their parents' footsteps. Other groups have organized to give them some competition for membership. How about our home-grown terrorists - bombers of the Atlanta Olympics, numerous abortion clnics, and the Murrah building in Oklahoma City? Think they were members of the Commie hordes? Nah, just organizations and individuals who think like the Klan.
posted on October 2, 2001 01:29:28 PM new
What really irritates me is that only the negative things are brought to light, and never the good things. No matter if the good outweighs the bad, only the bad is ever highlighted. That im my opinion is injustice.
posted on October 2, 2001 01:36:35 PM new
terri, why are you thinking of leaving Mississippi? In another thread you mentioned putting your house on the market and looking for property in Idaho.
posted on October 2, 2001 01:39:03 PM new
We are considering NC. Mountains have nothing at all to do with race. My hubby is a homesick Yankee. We are looking for something white...SNOW.
Saab, I can also honestly say that of the numbers of people in my community who have contacted us to express regret at seeing the sign in our yard, the racial make up has been 50-50.
[ edited by jt on Oct 2, 2001 01:43 PM ]
posted on October 2, 2001 01:51:44 PM new
terri. I know you mentioned the humidity as a reason for leaving but you seemed so wedded to Mississippi that I was surprised you were moving out of state. Yet that's a great thing about eBay - the ability to work from just about anywhere if you have the merchandise so a move isn't as disrupting for eBayers as for many others who have to search for new employment. The mountains are a great way to escape the heat and humidity and NC is a lot like Virginia - a pretty good mixture of geography, people, and cultures.
Actually, I did not intend to single out Mississippi and I indicated that the hate groups were in practically every state in the US.
It was your statement that The kkk is unknown
in Mississippi that received so much attention because we all know that it isn't true.
Both links that you provided indicate that the Clinton administration was very active in sponsoring good groups in the south. I hope that George Bush will continue his work in this area.
posted on October 2, 2001 02:24:27 PM new
I have never heard of the KKK being in Hawaii maybe that is one state where they used them for chum. They would for sure be a minority there - maybe even a foriegn devil to some.
posted on October 2, 2001 04:48:14 PM new
Getting back around to the original question, the popularity and visibility of the KKK waxes and wanes and waxes again over time. You saw more of it during the periods of recession in the '80's, and you hardly saw it at all during the prosperity of '90's. This is normal, and I think we'll probably see it grow again as the recession deepens.
posted on October 2, 2001 05:07:10 PM new
Maybe his comments weren't directed at you Helen....maybe they were for me, or someone altogether different???? BTW, yes you do give a dam, so that'll be enough of that!
posted on October 2, 2001 05:09:29 PM new
There was an article somewhere, I lost it, that said that these groups had mostly vanished from RL view and were becoming internet based. In that area, they are growing according to the article.
Helen, obviously I have heard of the KKK. Just only on tv or in a history book, or here at AW. Never in RL. Yes, I hope that those programs continue and with them more insight into what it is like to live here today.
Saab, I love Mississippi but for the heat and humidity. It will be hard to go. I will probably be homesick. I left my hometown in 1985 and when I go there I still get homesick. It's just that my mother moved and re-married. My father is in prison until 2005 for DUI, and this last year my remaining two grandparents died. When I do go "home", I have a few aunts that I love (who have e-mail) but I only see empty houses. I am not an "native" to this small community where I live and will always be considered an "outsider". LOL, a man who has lived here for 30 years told me, "I am still an "outsider". There are a LOT of people moving to my area but there are also a LOT of people who built next to mom and dad....and their siblings built next to them. It is not unusual at all to have 4 generations in the same church pew. That would be nice, but for me it is a non.
I am going to get in to log cabins and trout fishing and Appalachian quilts and wild crafting for herbs. I LOVE "Where the Lilies Bloom".
T
