posted on October 20, 2001 07:16:51 AM
Rosiebud, I have posted your idea elsewhere to share it with other PTO/PTA participants who may want to get involved in this activity, being sure to credit your username as the originator of this super idea!
Thanks again for bringing it to my attention. I can't wait to discuss this at the next PTO meeting.
posted on October 20, 2001 10:32:52 AM
sallyhoffman
I was not trying to pick an argument, just stating that barparts has every right to post anywhere just as you do. His thread was locked. I just thought that was odd, his locked and yours allowed to remain open.
I read other boards and on one in particular you said the same thing about the seller. The reaction was that at least one other poster told him flat out she would not send him a thing.
This is for your children, it's not a contest for parents.
posted on October 20, 2001 03:58:49 PM
Jmho2, I was not offended or in no way took your initial post as trying to pick a fight. My rather lengthy response was intended to set the record straight on a couple of points. Hopefully I did that, if not, please feel free to email me at [email protected] and we can discuss in more detail.
I agree with you 100% that barparts (or anyone else for that matter) has as much right to post as I do. My only complaint with barpart's posts is that because he/she copied my posts almost verbatim, the two posts are so similar that people think we are the same person. To that end, I find myself needing to create detailed posts in the various chat forums where both requests appear to explain that we are two different people. All I ask is that barparts post his/her request in their own words so that our posts don't end up sounding so much alike.
I have no idea why barpost's thread was locked - perhaps the AW moderator thought we were the same person and that multiple posts were disruptive. If that is the case, hopefully by now they understand we are two different people posting the same request.
I agree that this is not a contest for parents but something that will help local community schools, which ultimately directly impacts our children. I have mentioned this before but I think it bears repeating; each of us has to do what we feel comfortable with. If folks would rather send their Box Tops to their local schools, that`s wonderful - I am sure they would greatly appreciate the support. Just be sure to check with office staff first to be sure your school participates in the program.
The newspaper ad I placed in my local paper to help promote the General Mills Box Tops for Education program will hopefully generate awareness within the community about this great school fund raiser and get folks to participate (keep your fingers crossed!). I plan to direct any callers to check with the school physically located closest to their home to see if that school participates; that may or may not be my son's elementary school. Again, the main focus of placing the ad was to raise awareness about how my community of 30-40 thousand people can show their support for their local schools.
posted on October 20, 2001 05:15:20 PM
Sallyhoffman
In no way did I think you were the same person. I read both posts and it didn't even cross my mind that they were the same exact posts. I don't think anyone can confuse you with his ID, quite different indeed.
A point though, our children in our schools receive class parties or an individual child will receive a prize for the amount of boxtops he or she collects. This is one reason I don't promote it on any chat board. I don't feel it's fair for the other students to not even come close to the amount collected by my children should I decide to ask here, there or anywhere. Also a good reason why I don't promote Girl Scout cookies on auctions.
posted on October 20, 2001 05:49:35 PM
Jmho2, the principal at my son's school does not like the idea of competition between class rooms for things like box tops, so having a "winner" in terms of the class collecting the most box tops is not an issue. I can see how posting a request such as mine could give someone's child/classroom an advantage in collecting the most box tops or Campbell's soup labels or whatever folks may be collecting to raise money.
I have even received a few notes from folks willing to sell the box tops to me for a price. I declined, saying these posts were a way to "recruit" folks to save them for me (or their local school) for free. Somehow the idea of flat out buying them from someone just isn't as fun - where's the challenge, the thrill of the hunt in finding new recruits? Hee Hee...
posted on October 20, 2001 07:14:03 PM
Bravo for the principal. He knows how to do things right. I feel it's not the prize at the end that should encourage the children, it's the way the game is played.
For those who want you to pay, I say patooey!
Will they give you the cereal to go along with the boxtop?
posted on October 23, 2001 09:36:45 PM
I wasn't going to respond to any of the negativity that Sallyhoffman has been shilling out against myself, as I do believe that responding is just a way to start a war, but enough is enough. You have been responding to other posts within this forum stating that you have not been attacking my posts. Nothing is further from the truth. For the past two weeks, you have attached your made up explanations why people should not send the box tops to my kids’ school. Each time I start a new post, you feel the need to degrade it to promote your own selfish needs. You state that I have copied your post to the word. What do you think I should say? The basis for the forum is virtually the same. The information that needs to be provided within the post is virtually the same so it would only make sense for the posts to be similar. I have been posting this forum in other venues for nearly a year now and only recently brought it to the auction site forums. The big problem that I am having is when you state that I am taking credit for your words it is simply not true. What I have done twice before, (this is the third response) is to copy the post you had left on my post degrading my post and steering people against me and reposting it on your post. In your mind it seems to be OK for you to defame a person but it is not OK for them to respond. It is time to grow up. If you concentrated upon the charity at hand instead of criticizing anyone else that happens to have the same goals, you could have funded every possible program or event that your school could possibly dream up.
All I ask is for you to leave my posts alone and I can guarantee that I will leave yours alone. There is no reason in the world that we cannot support each other and co-exist.
bp
posted on October 24, 2001 05:09:27 AM
One more time for the record barparts.....
I have no problem with co-exisitng with barparts, provided he/she plays by the rules and speaks the truth. When he/she start posting text, claiming it as his/her own without giving credit where credit is due, I take exception to that and will do whatever it takes to set the record straight.
I have said nothing in any of my posts that can be misconstrued as not following any chat posting rules. I am simply pointing out to folks some of the misunderstandings that are being generated because his/her posts are almost identical to mine (which as I stated before, were posted days before barparts).
I am in no way hindering barparts from posting his/her requests for anything. I am simply pointing out that by his/her copying my request for box tops almost verbatim, he/she is creating a lot of confusion on the various boards making people think we are one and the same person. When people begin thinking we are the same person because he/she copied my posts almost verbatim and my character and/or reputation are being questioned, I do take it personally and will post truthful, accurate information in these threads to set the record straight...period!
I've said it before and I'll say it again - I do admire barparts willingness to help his/her daughter`s school raise money; I only object to his/her methods in this case. Is it really so unreasonable to ask that his/her post be unique enough from mine (or anyone else that may post the same request) so there is absolutely no doubt in anyone's mind that the posts are being generated from different people?
The only "agenda" I have is to raise awareness for whatever program I am posting about. If folks would rather collect box tops for their own community, that is fine. The idea is to get folks within communities to participate. We all know schools in general can use all the help with additional funds they can get - each of us has to do what we feel comfortable with. If folks would rather send their Box Tops to their local school, that`s great - I am sure they would greatly appreciate the support. Just be sure to check with office staff first to be sure your school participates in the program.
Barparts, I have done as you requested and left your posts alone since the request was made (exception being on Carnaby, where I left a post responding to htcoe's comments to clarify his/her misconceptions). I have many friends within the online auction world, and it is they, not I, who are leaving comments in your thread. They are simply taking a stand on the blatant copying of text that you continue to do, even though this plagiarism has been pointed out repeatedly to you.
Again, my objection with barparts' post is that the wording is so close to mine that people think we are the same person. And once again, is it really so unreasonable to ask that his/her post be unique enough from mine (or anyone else that may post the same request) so there is absolutely NO DOUBT in anyone's mind that the posts are being generated from different people?
For the record, I do not have a problem with barpart's request for the same items I am looking for; only the methods used in posting the request. A simple "Anyone interested in helping me collect Box Tops for my daughter's school would be appreciated. Please email me at (barpart's email address) for details." or any other UNIQUE verbiage would suffice nicely.
I would welcome other people who might come to this forum to solicit participation in whatever fund raiser they are trying to promote. I'd try to help them in whatever way I can!
posted on October 26, 2001 05:01:15 AM
For anyone interested in promoting the Box Tops for Education program in their own community (or any other fund raising effort you wish to promote within your community), place an ad in your local newspaper advertising this program!
My local newspaper has an ad area called "The Back Page", which is part of the Tuesday and Wednesday editions. Announcements, want ads, messages, etc. are included in this special section, which is listed on the back page of the newspaper along with local weather and obituaries.
I submitted my ad for Box Tops to run this past Tuesday and Wednesday - and it only costs $2 a line per day. My ad was 3 lines long, so all it cost me was $12 for two days worth of advertising. I was hoping to generate awareness within the community about this great school fund raiser and get folks to participate, regardless of which school the Box Tops are ultimately donated to - the whole idea is to raise money for local schools, who as we all know can use all the extra funds they can get!
My ad looked something like this:
Support (your community`s name here) schools - save Box Tops for Education logos! For info., call (your telephone number here).
The ad worked - my phone has been ringing off the hook since my ran in the paper - hurray - more recruits for the cause! Some agreed to save them for my son's school, some folks are taking them directly to the school physically located near their home, and some said they'd mail them to their local school (I suggested contacting the office staff first so they can be on the lookout for said mail).
posted on October 30, 2001 07:43:56 AM
Beginning in October 2001, the Box Tops for Education program is bigger and better than ever - with THREE ways to earn cash for your local schools. Here is how you can help....
1) CLIP with the original Box Tops for Education.
Find Box Tops on more than 330 participating General Mills Productions. Bring them to your local school and they can be redeemed for cash - 10 cents per Box Top.
2) SHOP on line at the Box Tops for Education Marketplace.
Go to www.boxtops4education.com and make purchases at stores like Barnes & Noble.com, Eddie Bauer.com, and PetsMart.com. General Mills will donate up to 10% of your qualifying purchases to your local school.
3) CHARGE with the Box Tops for Education Visa Card.
Apply for the Box Tops card by calling 800-227-9605. There is no annual fee and the card can be used at more than 20 million locations with 1% of purchases donated to your local school.
See www.boxtops4education.com for more information on these options.
posted on October 30, 2001 09:40:11 AM
Hormel developed America's first canned ham (''Hormel Flavor-Sealed Ham'') in 1926, and eleven years later developed the first canned meat product that did not require refrigeration. It was a ''distinctive chopped pork shoulder and ham mixture'' developed by Jay C. Hormel, son of Hormel founder George A. Hormel, and marketed as ''Hormel Spiced Ham'' - not a terribly inspiring name for an innovative product fated to save lives, win wars, and balance diets of people world wide.
Hormel Spiced Ham got off to a slightly rocky start. Other meatpackers began to introduce their own canned luncheon meats, and Hormel lost its controlling share of the market. Soon, however, they came up with a cunning plan to rectify this situation - they would give Hormel's luncheon meat a truly catchy name. Toward this end, they offered $100 for a suitable appellation. The winning name was, of course, ''SPAM'', and a legend was born.
SPAM was launched with much high-profile advertising in mid-1937. It was called ''the Miracle Meat'', and promoted as an anytime meat. In 1940, SPAM was the subject of quite possibly the first singing commercial. The jingle was to the tune of the chorus of ''My Bonny Lies Over The Ocean'', and the lyrics were ''SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM/ Hormel's new miracle meat in a can/ Tastes fine, saves time./ If you want something grand,/ Ask for SPAM!''. Hormel also sponsored George Burns' and Gracie Allen's network radio show, which included ''Spammy the Pig''. During World War II, sales boomed. Not only was SPAM great for the military, as it required no refrigeration, it wasn't rationed as beef was, so it became a prime staple in American meals. SPAM supported the war effort more directly, too. Nikita Kruschev credits SPAM with the survival of the Russian Army during WWII. During the late 1940s and early 1950s, the Hormel Girls performing troupe advertised SPAM as they performed throughout the country, distributed SPAM door-to-door, and even had a national weekly radio show. Ads proclaimed, ''Cold or hot, SPAM hits the spot!''
In 1960, SPAM began to be sold in 7 oz cans alonside the original 12 oz ones. SPAM began to spawn variations in 1971, when smoke-flavored SPAM was introduced. Next came less salt/sodium SPAM, in 1986, and with it the honour of being considered ''state of the art in its industry'' by the Minnesota Association of Commerce and Industry." In the early 1990s, SPAM Breakfast Strips were introduced, as was SPAM lite.
What now awaits us on the SPAM front? Only time (and possibly Hormel) will tell.
posted on October 30, 2001 09:43:43 AMScene: A cafe. One table is occupied by a group of Vikings with horned helmets on. A man and his wife enter.
Man: You sit here, dear.
Wife: All right.
Man (to Waitress): Morning!
Waitress: Morning!
Man: Well, what've you got?
Waitress: Well, there's egg and bacon; egg sausage and bacon; egg and spam; egg bacon and spam; egg bacon sausage and spam; spam bacon sausage and spam; spam egg spam spam bacon and spam; spam sausage spam spam bacon spam tomato and spam;
Vikings (starting to chant): Spam spam spam spam...
Waitress: ...spam spam spam egg and spam; spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam...
Vikings (singing): Spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam!
Waitress: ...or Lobster Thermidor a Crevette with a mornay sauce served in a Provencale manner with shallots and aubergines garnished with truffle pate, brandy and with a fried egg on top and spam.
Wife: Have you got anything without spam?
Waitress: Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Wife: I don't want ANY spam!
Man: Why can't she have egg bacon spam and sausage?
Wife: THAT'S got spam in it!
Man: Hasn't got as much spam in it as spam egg sausage and spam, has it?
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam (crescendo through next few lines)
Wife: Could you do the egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam then?
Waitress: Urgghh!
Wife: What do you mean 'Urgghh'? I don't like spam!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!)
Waitress: Shut up!
Vikings: Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up! (Vikings stop) Bloody Vikings! You can't have egg bacon spam and sausage without the spam.
Wife (shrieks): I don't like spam!
Man: Sshh, dear, don't cause a fuss. I'll have your spam. I love it. I'm having spam spam spam spam spam spam spam baked beans spam spam spam and spam!
Vikings (singing): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
Waitress: Shut up!! Baked beans are off.
Man: Well could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then?
Waitress: You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam... (but it is too late and the Vikings drown her words)
Vikings (singing elaborately): Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam!
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