posted on August 2, 2001 03:23:12 PM new
Hello Everyone,
Please keep the personal comments out of this thread.
Dimview,
Ssince this is not like the Yahoo forum because of the numbers of auction sites here, we are asking you to keep all stats for each site in one thread. It's pretty simple and it will be easy for those to find that are looking for them. If your threads get really long, then you can ask for them to be locked.
Any further conversation about managing your stats threads should be done through email at the address below,
posted on August 2, 2001 03:33:40 PM new
RB said: I have never done that. As a matter of fact, if you take the time to read my posts, you will see that I have never personally insulted anyone over there.
I have to disagree and you know why. The only thing I can say is you ask to be suspended! You have said you several user IDs not a couple and you tryed to act like Gonzolas was not your ID put Freds. So if you would tell the whole story not bits and pieces. I see know reason to keep this up so this will be my last responce. I do not want to go to far off topic. Have a nice buying/selling day.
FWIW, they weren't insults, that was the truth. I know it might have been harsh, but what's that old saying about 'the truth hurts'? It applies in this instance.
Oh well, with you as RB's guardian angel, he has one more skirt to hide behind.
posted on August 2, 2001 03:48:41 PM new
Joyce ... How can I contact you about a moderation issue? I started a thread asking you and it disappeared. If you have tried to email me, my address may be different than what you have on your files - I switched over to DSL about a month ago. Let me know how to update your records.
posted on August 2, 2001 04:24:21 PM new
I tell you what twists me about the whole situation at Bidville. The PREZ had a personal vendetta against "Buzzoon" If he is going to dish out all of these new rules. Then they should have been posted from day one, and not because you take something personal. You treat each member, with the same rules. I have to smack myself to keep from laughing, after reading some of the Bidviller's posts. Like they are holier than thou. When in all reality they have as many unethical posts as Buzzoon had. I am not a Buzzoon groupie, or follower. But I do believe in equal rights, and treating everybody with the same judgement. The boards at Bidville is the worst thing to happen to that place. Because that is where every fight has ever originated. If the boards is going to be continually removed, locked, and people suspended for leaving an opinion at Bidville. Then I would suggest a whole new set of rules be made, and everybody be treated equal. That is what has bugged me from the beginning. Just like the "StarTrek" business tycoon, calling each and every Bidviller dumb. I am through with the message boards at Bidville, because it isn't two sided. It is just who has the remote control at the time, that decides whether you deserve to be terminated. I know many angels at Bidville, who has a devil tail hanging out the back. I have seen so much name calling at Bidville, I could write a book. As far as an auction site, I love it, and it is a great place. But I wouldn't give you $100.00 for the whole community center. It is biased, unfair, and totally unequal. And that is my opinion. Hillbilly
posted on August 2, 2001 04:27:55 PM newI think Joice is doing an excellent job of moderating.
I'll refrain from further comment except to say that there are free image hosting services all over the net. Anyone who wants pictures in their auctions can place them there of their own free will. Boomspeed.com is pretty good, and free. Did I say free enough?
posted on August 2, 2001 04:42:09 PM new
Unless the policy has changed, I don't believe other image hosting services can be specifically named. They compete with AuctionWatch's image hosting service.
posted on August 2, 2001 04:53:07 PM new
Then please excuse me for doing so.
Being that the service is categorized as a free service, and the intent of this thread is to evaluate whether or not all of BidVille will falter due to a few recent changes involving image hosting and all costs associated may or may not not make a difference. However, I will be more careful in the future.
posted on August 2, 2001 05:05:24 PM new
Hello Everyone,
Discussions that occur on other boards are not to be brought to this board. Period. Excalibur131, if you could do an edit of your post I would appreciate it.
Mentioning other places that host images is okay so long as it isn't promotional. It's all subjective but since the thread is not about image hosts in competition with AW, and it is not promotional, I'm going to let the post stand.
Please everyone, if you will just stick to the subject (or have we all forgotten it?) and let me do the moderating, we will all do just fine.
posted on August 2, 2001 06:06:51 PM new
Of the sites that offer free image hosting I just wonder if the same few get hit with all the BV pics won't they shortly be posting their own notices:
To combat the rising costs of storage we must impose fees...
It wouldn't surprise me to start seeing that on some of these sites within a month or two.
Some have suggested using epier & the site no longer mentionable here for photos. I wouldn't depend on those to stay free. epier has stated a mandatory $20 membership IS in their future and that other site is going to need cash to fight their own lawsuit. I've heard Yahoo & Geocities block their images from being usable on other auction sites. And other hosts have some restrictions as to where photos can be used.
If you've got space on your ISP that is the safest route to take.
posted on August 2, 2001 06:41:28 PM new
Are you serious about Epier making is mandatory to join the membership? I do not hang out there, but do have a few listings. Yikes, that is not a good move.
posted on August 2, 2001 08:23:17 PM new
Deichen, when ePier implemented the $20 verification fee for sellers of adult and militaria items other sellers were nearly up in arms over it because it was unfair to single out a particular group of sellers and make them pay.
Many of us asked for an across-the-board FVF whereby fees would be shared by everyone, and no particular group would be carrying anyone else.
ePier told us nothing doing. Before long several of the regular sellers, almost as a protest and because they knew ePier needed the money, signed up for verification as well.
There was a meeting held to discuss the verification fee where again we asked for a FVF. At the meeting the president skirted many issues, gave half-answers to a few questions and informed us that eventually ePier would have a mandatory $20 verification fee for all sellers.
I haven't heard when they're planning on implementing it.
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posted on August 2, 2001 09:14:39 PM new
Thanks Wallypog
I was just about to type all that up. And add my concern that if they find hundreds of new members strictly using the site to load up pics for use elsewhere they might enact it soon to eliminate that problem.
Dimview
I check out DT Magazine's site every week. Yesterday they had this notice:
"With so little activity on the other sites, The Wednesday Report will cease updating counts on all sites other than eBay"
Now I guess we won't get to see where all these BV ads are going (unless they show up at the sites you report on).
posted on August 3, 2001 04:00:19 AM new
kasmoon >
I was just about to type all that up. And add my concern that if they find hundreds of new members strictly using the site to load up pics for use elsewhere they might enact it soon to eliminate that problem.
I've always hosted my images at my own website, and have no need for any auctionsites image hosting services. I'd agree, though, that an influx of images will lead the offsite image hosting sites to consider implementing their own fees.
I check out DT Magazine's site every week. Yesterday they had this notice: "With so little activity on the other sites, The Wednesday Report will cease updating counts on all sites other than eBay" Now I guess we won't get to see where all these BV ads are going (unless they show up at the sites you report on).
My reports are an AuctionWatch "exclusive" ... *grin* ... but I'm now prohibited from posting in an <auctionsite - date> format as the subject line so users can easily locate the latest report. I do not like disorder and may have to make a few "adjustments" myself.
posted on August 3, 2001 04:15:04 AM new
[AuctionWatch has prohibited me from posting the following report in an <auctionsite - date> subject line format. This report would have been Bidville listings - 03-Aug-2001.]
Here's some recent datapoints. The order is date, total listings, sportscards listings and percentage of total listings, and listings in all other categories. Mandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting was announced July 27 and began August 1.
posted on August 3, 2001 05:03:31 AM new
In response to the original post in this
thread (yes, way up there at the top)...
Personally, I had been letting all my
auctions on Bidville end lately due to
wanting to revise the way I did things and
also taking an inventory of items I have
on hand that I want to sell. After about
half of them had ended, the new policy on
image hosting came down. I thought about
this briefly and after visiting AW and
seeing a post about boomspeed.com I decided
to close my remaining auctions and store
my images on boomspeed.com. I'm a little
more than a third through re-submitting
them now. I had a total of 300+ auctions
total, and will have closer to 400+ when
I am done, including new items I'm listing.
Since you were doing a statistical analysis,
I thought I'd explain why 300 or so auctions
left the "other" categories.
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"Cannot say. Saying, I would know. Do not
know, so cannot say". -- Zathras (Babylon 5)
posted on August 3, 2001 05:12:59 AM new
"Mandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting was announced July 27 and began August 1."
There is no such thing and you know it, so
please stop saying it! I can't believe I
am defending Bidville (since my sales are
so poor there compared to what I did on
Yahoo), but your statement is simply wrong.
The old policy was unlimited free listings
and up to 2 free pictures hosted free per
auction. The new policy is unlimited free
listings, and up to 20 total pictures hosted
free. A big difference, but far from what
you state (ie, mandatory premier membership
for image hosting).
Since anyone can continue to list unlimited
auctions for free, and there are several
free image hosting sites (not to mention
the fact that a lot of people have free
web space from their ISPs that they could
probably use as well), that hardly mandates
anyone to sign up for Bidville's Premier
services! You may have a gripe with BV,
but at least try to report honestly on what
occurs there. Thank you!
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"Cannot say. Saying, I would know. Do not
know, so cannot say". -- Zathras (Babylon 5)
posted on August 3, 2001 05:15:47 AM new
The sentence in my report:
Mandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting was announced July 27 and began August 1.
Would you prefer:
Mandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting (in excess of twenty) was announced July 27 and began August 1.
posted on August 3, 2001 06:03:39 AM newMandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting was announced July 27 and began August 1.
I do not personally believe that anyone was commanded or obligated to become a member of anything, nor do I believe that Premier or Premier Plus is the only alternative for image hosting.
I will not ask any questions on this matter because it has become obvious that it is to hard for some to present a clear and unbiased picture of the facts, much less answer questions that are presented in a straightforward manner.
posted on August 3, 2001 06:10:55 AM new
Your usage of the word mandatory remains incorrect and misleading. Rather than argue the point to death why not make an adjustment in your wording? It's a simple compromise that may help to eliminate some of the disorder you are now experiencing.
posted on August 3, 2001 06:15:04 AM new
The sentence in my report:
Mandatory Premier and Premier Plus memberships for image hosting was announced July 27 and began August 1.
Would you prefer:
A Premier or Premier Plus membership is required for image hosting (in excess of twenty) as announced July 27 and effective August 1.
I am just so easy to work with. Don't you think so?
posted on August 3, 2001 06:23:50 AM new
Nope ... doesn't work for me. Even though you have chosen to not answer my earlier questions on this subject, I personally believe that there are alternatives available. Yet your statement leads one to think that is the only way to have images hosted. Once again, not a clear and unbiased picture of the facts.
posted on August 3, 2001 06:30:07 AM new
Well, I will not pay epier's $20.00 fee nor will I pay bidville's membership fee. I would gladly pay FVF's on anything I sell. Of course, there are tons of deadbeats, so I would expect to get credit on FVF, if the buyer ends up being a deadbeat. I won't pay for something, that I hope will sell. I might as well go to ebay or own a B & M store, if I have to pay on the front end.
