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 RB
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:03:44 AM new
Very few people want to admit it but most items on BV are "parked".

Well, if the Three Illiterate Stooges get their way (and they will!), these parkers will be gone in 30 days. They are pushing for a new rule that will state if any member has been inactive for 30 days (no bids, no sales), they well automatically be suspended by Bidville. At that point, in order to be reinstated they will have to meet the "new" registration rules (no more hotmail or yahoo email addies, etc.). I would assume that suspending a member will also end all of his/her parked listings. That should drop the big number (a bad thing?) but also make browsing easier (a good thing).


 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:05:47 AM new
Isn't Bidville's sell through rate equal to ePier's?

 
 dimview
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:12:31 AM new
RB >
They are pushing for a new rule that will state if any member has been inactive for 30 days (no bids, no sales), they well automatically be suspended by Bidville.

In a few pageviews and even fewer bidders environment, like Bidville, I've often commented that hundreds, if not thousands, of listings are needed to pull even a few sales. So implementing a rule like this might well result in even more "junk" listings because they only need to sell one piece of "junk" each month to continue their registration. And, of course, two "junk" dealers would only have to trade one "junk" item each month to continue their registrations.

yankeejoe >
Isn't Bidville's sell through rate equal to ePier's?

Yes.


[ edited by dimview on Aug 29, 2001 09:14 AM ]
 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:15:54 AM new
So then you won't mind if I call ePier "The Internet's Smallest Inventory Warehouse"?
[ edited by yankeejoe on Aug 29, 2001 09:17 AM ]
 
 dimview
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:21:05 AM new
yankeejoe >
So then you won't mind if I call ePier "The Internet's Smallest Inventory Warehouse"?

I believe that distinction goes to an auctionsite like SnapRat, which has just over 300 listings.





[ edited by dimview on Aug 29, 2001 09:23 AM ]
 
 jimhhow
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:21:45 AM new
"Bidville - The Internet's Largest Inventory Warehouse"

this is just more evidence that you do not post you numbers and calculations with an objective keyboard.


"Well, if the Three Illiterate Stooges get their way"

And I thought that this type of name calling was even more strictly controlled here on Aw.Gosh,

Sorry, edited to remove a reference to the unholy trinity becuause I thought better of it.
[ edited by jimhhow on Aug 29, 2001 09:22 AM ]
 
 dimview
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:28:50 AM new
jimhhow >
this is just more evidence that you do not post you numbers and calculations with an objective keyboard.

Would you like to discuss my statement Bidville - The Internet's Largest Inventory Warehouse, or perhaps my assessment yesterday of the SPORTMANIA sell-through rate?

 
 katiyana
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:30:12 AM new
If that's the case, I'll be suspended and not come back - I'm listing, just not getting buyers.. and that's my fault why??

I've got... 6 or 7 items up now - haven't even gotten a single PAGE VIEW on them... if my items aren't going to be looked at, listing there serves no purpose. I would not like a 30 days get a bid/sale or else policy.. *bleah*

 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:47:08 AM new
So why don't you refer to every other auction site with similar sell through rates as inventory warehouses?

And no, I don't agree with that moniker in any case. I'm wondering why you don't apply your "verdicts" consistently.

 
 RB
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:48:38 AM new
Well, if the Three Illiterate Stooges get their way

And I thought that this type of name calling was even more strictly controlled here on Aw.Gosh,

It would be against AW Community Guidelines if the post mentioned any names. I don't think Moe, Larry, and Joe would feel offended by this. Do you?


 
 bidsbids
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:51:06 AM new
The BV Prez will never go for a 30 day inactive rule. It would encourage shill bidding amongst hard luck sellers to stay on site and reduce his leverage as having the largest free site out there to attact lookers.
 
 dimview
 
posted on August 29, 2001 09:56:01 AM new
yankeejoe >
So why don't you refer to every other auction site with similar sell through rates as inventory warehouses?

Like Guinness, I'm looking for the world record.

And among all auctionsites that I know of, Bidville is The Internet's Largest Inventory Warehouse.




katiyana >
If that's the case, I'll be suspended and not come back - I'm listing, just not getting buyers.. and that's my fault why??
I've got... 6 or 7 items up now - haven't even gotten a single PAGE VIEW on them... if my items aren't going to be looked at, listing there serves no purpose. I would not like a 30 days get a bid/sale or else policy.. *bleah*

The problem with 10 items is that a 1.5% sell-through rate is only going to generate, on average, 0.15 sales. That would be ZERO sales.

Let's see what the average seller needs in the way of listings to generate sales:

1 sale = 67 listings
2 sales = 134 listings
3 sales = 200 listings
4 sales = 267 listings
5 sales = 333 listings
10 sales = 667 listings
25 sales = 1,667 listings
50 sales = 3,333 listings
100 sales = 6,667 listings

This is clearly *not* an eBay-, or an even Yahoo!Auctions-like situation. Bidville is a few pageviews and even fewer bidders environment, so you need to list, list and list some more in order to generate even minimal sales.


typos.
[ edited by dimview on Aug 29, 2001 10:21 AM ]
 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on August 29, 2001 10:02:17 AM new
Very objective.

 
 RB
 
posted on August 29, 2001 10:20:48 AM new
The BV Prez will never go for a 30 day inactive rule.

The BV Prez will do whatever The Three Illiterate Stooges tell him to do ... just keep watching



 
 exexec
 
posted on August 29, 2001 10:55:47 AM new
BV Prez has abdicated his "leadership" chair and the inmates are running the asylum. A small group of people spouting words like "what's best for BV" when they are only concerned with their own power. A real shame....BV had some potential.
 
 jimhhow
 
posted on August 29, 2001 10:59:54 AM new
Discuss what, Dimview?

your continual biased and slanted opinions that you apply to your figures?

The baiting remarks that you attempt to justify by slanting figures the way you want?

Your denial of previous statements made, ...=

"Does that mean potential bidders and viewers are no longer able to browse through the remaining 6,000 plus listings?

Was that the "fix" for the outage? "

Then later in another thread,...=

"Your comment that dimview equated this occurrence with the "unscheduled maintenance" is clearly incorrect, since dimview didn't even mention "unscheduled maintenance" in any message."

But the outage you referred to was the "unscheduled maintenance".

Have any of your comments ever been about:

1. how easy it is to post on Bidville?
2. how the site does listen to input from the members in any but a negative way?


Basically, has Bidville done anything positive in your opinion? Not so's you would notice on these boards.

criticism has it's place, but all is not negative there as you would paint it.

How can you have a discussion with someone who wants to define their own reality?


You try to look like you are simply posting numbers and calculations. After all, who could find fault with the numbers. But then you take some of the numbers and accept possible extrapolations, as I have pointed out before, to make things look the way you want to show them. Then you also invest your stats posts with slanted, baiting remarks, that would be better service to you if they were not in a stats thread.

On the sportmania thing you first counted the sportmania auctions by category, then you couinted the bids the same way. Fine, so far. But then you did not like the results, so you twisted the additional numbers of total listing to be only sportscards, (on an assumed basis), so that you could show a lower number.
The truth is there will bw no way to figure a sell through rate for Sportmania before Labor day with any semblence of accuracy.

And if you are really the hotshot with numbers you make yourself out to be, you should know that.







 
 dimview
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:10:32 AM new
Here's today's "in-progress" sell-through rate for the SPORTMANIA sale.

Baseball Cards - 48 bids / 3,000+ listings
Hockey Cards - 6 bids / 105 listings
Sports Memorabilia - 8 bids / 485 listings
Football Cards - 89 bids / 3,000+ listings
Other Sports Cards - 9 bids / 227 listings
Sports Autographs - 5 bids / 11 listings
Basketball Cards - 5 bids / 188 listings
Sporting Goods - 0 bids / 75 listings

Closed Auctions - 93 bids / 249 listings

TOTAL SPORTMANIA 261 bids / 7,508+ listings or <3.5% sell-through rate.


From the table:

08-24 715,695 397,941 (55.6%) 317,478
08-25 724,442 407,732 (56.1%) 316,710
08-26 726,390 408,753 (56.3%) 317,637
08-27 728,487 410,651 (56.4%) 317,836
08-28 728,823 412,568 (56.6%) 316,255
08-29 729,211 413,721 (56.7%) 315,490

If the increase in sportcards from 397,941 to 413,721 listings, or 15,780 listings, are all SPORTMANIA listings, then:

261 bids / 15,780 listings = 1.7% sell-through rate

 
 RB
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:15:05 AM new
criticism has it's place, but all is not negative there as you would paint it.

That's why you're here Jim ... to paint the other side of the picture ... you know, the one that says "everything is lickity-split on Bidville and the sales just keep pouring in".

It's all a question of balance and right now, the scales seem to be tipping away from you

Maybe you oughta round up "the Posse" (as they call themselves), or "my gang" (as Ed calls them), or "The Illiterate Three Stooges" as I call them to come ane help you out!


[ edited by RB on Aug 29, 2001 11:18 AM ]
 
 yankeejoe
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:19:46 AM new
Why are the scales tipping away? Because the sell through rate is up, or because the listings are increasing, or because of the new verification program?

 
 RB
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:26:56 AM new
The changes made by the The I3S haven't affected the tip of the scales ...yet. They may, but they also may tip them even further away from BV. I suspect a lot of potential members are users of hotmail and yahoo type free accounts. Too bad, so sad for them I guess ...

It seems to me that when suggestions are made to make some major changes, and some pretty decent options are given to the membership to vote on, the results of the vote should not be decided by 3 of 4 people or those who can post the most stupid smileys in an hour. Unless, of course, that is the membership.


 
 pattaylor
 
posted on August 29, 2001 11:28:54 AM new
Everyone,

This thread has become argumentative and unproductive. I'm locking it up.

Pat
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