stavecards
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posted on October 24, 2001 11:30:50 AM new
Auctionsoldier,
This was debated endlessly on the Bidville boards several months ago. Since Ed finished medical school, he is a doctor. Residency is after graduating from medical school.
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johnnybravo55
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posted on October 24, 2001 11:37:20 AM new
The CEO recently demonstrated how difficult it to sell items on his own site by running 5 beanie auctions. Even though the auctions were great deals there were no bidders of course. 
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kasmoon
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:02:30 PM new
Latest announcement from BV:
"Non-Verified bidders with a feedback rating of less than +2 can bid on a maximum of 5 items per month.
This will help prevent "deadbeats" from bidding on multiple items and disappearing. If someone bids on 5 items in 30 days and does not get at least a +2 rating from it, they are not welcome here."
No wonder they want to lock the announcement board to new unverified users!
So new bidders attracted to the site for those "great" sales can only bid for 5 items? And new sports cards buyers will have a choice of 400,000+ ads yet can only bid for 5 items? And if they don't win obviously they don't get feedback so they're out? Or if they win but the sellers don't post fb they're out? And this is supposed to "improve" the site for sellers? ROFLMAO
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robnzak
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:30:50 PM new
And this just in from the prez...
"Based on your email requests, we have increased the maximum number of automatic relists to 20 instead of 10. We hope our sellers view this as a fair compromise."
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RB
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:32:26 PM new
Looks like it's getting even more complicated. In all seriousness, these new changes reek of panic.
On the Bidville "rating" thing, does that equate to "feedback" as most of us know it on other venues? If it does, then it means if a seller doesn't buy into the feedback philosophy, more honest people are going to get the shaft.
I, for example, don't post feedback simply because if a buyer or seller does what their contract with me says they are going to do, that's enough. I don't need to stroke them after that, do I?
I don't think I am alone in not using the feedback (rating?) system. So, if you bid on and win 5 of my listings and pay promptly, thanks for doing what you agreed to do. I'm still not going to post feedback, so in His eyes, you are no longer welcome.
I have to ask you guys ... are you being straight about all of these announcements (I don't go to that site anymore) or are you making this stuff up to stir the pot? If these are real, then the chicken's head has already been cut off and soon it will nowhere else to run.
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gmileske
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:45:22 PM new
Buzz
You got it!
If your new or not verified and win an auction and everything goes smooth but the seller does'nt leave feedback YOUR OUT.
I can't remember how many things I purchased and never got feedback for!
Bidville is committing cyber suicide!
[ edited by gmileske on Oct 24, 2001 12:47 PM ]
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bidsbids
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:45:49 PM new
Let's say a new user comes to the site and bids ( of course almost every non-reserve auction ends with a single bid ) and wins an auction and the auction is a scam or the seller never delivers. With the new rules this new and unverified bidder can not leave any negative feedback to warn others of the scam or bad seller?
It seems the BV management is only listening to a small handfull of sellers there and dancing like puppets on a string at this small groups every whim without seeing the consequences of the site changes.
WHO's running the show and what is NEXT?
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kasmoon
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posted on October 24, 2001 12:49:41 PM new
LOL RB, we couldn't make this stuff up!
Yes, it means feedback in the sense you state. I recall when I first started auction buying years ago on ebay. I must have paid for & rec'd 20+ items before I acquired a 2-0-0 rating. If ebay had had this retarded rule their sellers would have lost an awful lot of bids from me. My ratio has not improved much over the years from buying. I buy as much as I sell yet most of my ratings everywhere are from selling. Sellers frequently pull the "I'll post yours after you post mine" game so I don't. I go first for buyers but would never do that for sellers.
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RB
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posted on October 24, 2001 01:03:56 PM new
In that case, it's Bye Bye Bidville. I really think the Doc needs to see a Doc, and fast before He goes completely out of control 
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djaythree
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posted on October 24, 2001 02:21:39 PM new
I was a strong, although silent, Bidville cheerleader since January. No more.
First, it was "Sign up and PAY to be a Premier member, or your images are not welcome here." After a little weighing of the pros and cons, I signed up as a Premier member. Whoopee. As long as sales equaled my Premier costs, I was okay.
When Bidville started its "10 relists only" thing a couple of weeks ago, I went from over 3300 auctions to just under 100. I had planned to stop using them at all, because I'm just trying to get rid of some of my collections, not run a business. I re-thought the situation, and thought that I might be able to live with the 10 auto relists. It meant more work, but what the heck - I'd had moderate success there, why not?
But, now, thanks to a vocal few at Bidville, and weak leadership, Bidville has virtually closed the doors to new bidders, unless they pay a "verification fee". In other words, please pay an admission fee, or you won't be allowed to spend your money here.
Last straw for me! I cancelled my Premier membership and what few auctions I had running there, and I don't plan to go back. When a site tries its best to eliminate buyers when page views are virtually nonexistant, it's time to try something else. I wish the "vocal few" that are staying good luck, because they'll be buying only from each other - no new buyers will be willing to pay the admission fee.
I have also noticed that the numbers on the home page are dropping continuously - apparently, I'm not the only one disgusted with Bidville. And it's such a shame - Bidville had the potential to be number two, and, in the space of a couple of months, has blown the chance all to h***.
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giftsbyangie
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posted on October 24, 2001 02:24:05 PM new
Hi all! I used to sell on bidville, and I really met some GREAT people. However, after amny many many rude posts on the message board and the way some people were acting (and they never were suspended or anything) I decided it was not worth it. I still go there from time to time, as I have friends who sell there that are really good people. I am not sure whats going on over there, but from what i hear, it isnt any good. What do you guys mean when you say you cant view the boards? Thats silly, and seems unethical. Its kinda like those chats on bbay that you have to be a member to go in. Seems to me like a place for cliques to get together and talk bad and spread gossip. Anyways, there are so many sites out there now, that if one messes up (like I feel bidville is starting to do)there are many places to go. In my opinion, Carnaby is a good one to check out.
Angie
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bidsbids
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posted on October 24, 2001 03:19:55 PM new
[[[Spraying RAID Can]]] Thar, that oughtta fix them BV bugs.
I can compare the ongoing demise of BV to what happens when ant poison control systems kill an ant colony by selectively poisoning the Queen Ant. The colony notices no effect initially. However, slowly over time, there are no new ants being born in the colony and it dwindles in size until it vanishes. Almost a 15,000 item drop in two days. Look for more yo-yo announcements from the yo-yo management.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on October 24, 2001 03:42:33 PM new
"NO COMMENT"
Hillbilly
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auctionsoldier
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posted on October 24, 2001 03:47:04 PM new
hehehe. No comment is right! The Prez must have taken his Prez Prozac today. Give it a day and it will change again.
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gmileske
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posted on October 24, 2001 04:25:11 PM new
Oh Hillbilly
This is AW not BV go ahead and post your thoughts before ya blow a cork.
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bidsbids
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posted on October 24, 2001 04:58:59 PM new
The PlanetBeanie.com website mentioned in the earlier post in this thread got we curious. The site is indeed very dead.
this link http://www.ctoys.com/news/rumors1b.html
reveals this info:
Planet Beanie
Planet Beanie joins the long list of Web sites in trouble for copyright problems.
http://www.planetbeanie.com/
and this link
http://www.geocities.com/collectiblezdotnet/Domains.html
reveals that the PlanetBeanie.com domain name was registered TY INC on 2/23/2000.
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Interesting? Another Prez legal blunder?
[ edited by bidsbids on Oct 24, 2001 05:01 PM ]
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holysmokes
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posted on October 24, 2001 08:36:30 PM new
Sketer I thought you stayed away from auctionwatch. Or is the fact that your email starts with telwil just a coinkeedink
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telwil
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posted on October 24, 2001 09:19:35 PM new
This is not Sketer I am her boyfiend. She dont come on the auctionwatch board she said it is full of people suspended from Bidville. I was on the AW board before I went to Bidville and if it is OK with you I will stay? We both have used telwil at times WHY for are own reasons look closer at the email address's and see what you find. I will say this you seem to be very interested in Sketer WHY?
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holysmokes
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posted on October 24, 2001 09:27:50 PM new
No reason. She is one of the more outspoken members of the psychoprez fan club. When I was at Bidville I won some auctions from her and when I saw you post here I remembered the email and the fact that she said she wasn't stepping foot here. Thank you for clearing up the point of information.
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telwil
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posted on October 24, 2001 09:35:00 PM new
Yes she does speek her mind and she is very up front some people dont like that but thats OK I still love her. She does have a right to her opinion. Glad I was able to help you on this. Have a nice buying/selling day.
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uptoolate
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posted on October 25, 2001 03:10:41 AM new
"Non-Verified bidders with a feedback rating of less than +2 can bid on a maximum of 5 items per month."
WHY does it state BID instead of win? Surely that's a misprint, either way I'm glad I'm not a sports card seller. They are the ones getting screwed the worst. Most seem to have hundreds to thousands of nickel & dime commons so they can't afford to go to a site with fees. I can picture a new customer thrilled to find a site with so many affordable album fillers then being driven off by the 5 bid max. Imagine after placing your 5th 10 cent bid getting the message "you can't bid anymore until you enter your credit card # and select the $2.50 charge for 2 months of unlimited bids or $5.00 charge for a year." Get real, how many people would be willing to fork over their CC# to a site they just found AND pay $5 to bid for nickel & dime cards. I imagine they'd be out of there fast and ignore the 5 bids they placed too. I honestly think this system would create more deadbeats than it would deter.
Seller protection? Sellers have always had the ability to block 0 rated bidders. They've always had the ability to block bidders with less than +5. When verification starts 11-6 they will have the ability to block any unverif bidders. And somehow the site still thinks it necessary to come up with even more ways to tell new bidders to get lost. That's pretty unbelieveable but what's even more mind numbing is some people actually feel these changes will increase business.
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robnzak
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posted on October 25, 2001 06:18:44 AM new
"Non-Verified bidders with a feedback rating of less than +2 can bid on a maximum of 5 items per month."
uptoolate...you didn't go far enough with your disbelief...further reading of the prez statement...
"This will help prevent "deadbeats" from bidding on multiple items and disappearing. If someone bids on 5 items in 30 days and does not get at least a +2 rating from it, they are not welcome here."
they are actually tell new buyers if they can't get +2 rating out of a maximum of 5 bids in 30 days, they don't want them on their site. UNBELIEVABLE!
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auctionsoldier
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posted on October 25, 2001 09:32:27 AM new
Now today, Prez while still hung over decided to implement a cancel bid feature. This has shill bid written all over it. Since there are no listing fees or commisions, friends will bid up each others auctions in hopes of getting a newbie to jump in. If nobody else bids, they cancel the bids. Or if the do not like the amount the item will sell for, they cancel the bid.
I am glad I am not downwind from the Prez dungeon.
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RB
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posted on October 25, 2001 09:46:19 AM new
Guys and gals ...
Just a heads-up here, and this is only a legal *opinion*. I suggest we can the references to any drugs or whatever that the site owner may be involved with, whether you intend this as a ha ha or you have facts.
We may, for the most part, agree that He is doing some very bizarre things, but I think we would be wiser to talk about the things and not the person who is doing them.
JMHO tho ...
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deichen
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posted on October 25, 2001 09:53:54 AM new
RB,
I am certainly not on Bidville's side anymore, but I agree with you. Some posters need to grow up and possibly get a life. Chat boards aren't that "fun".
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auctionsoldier
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posted on October 25, 2001 10:03:58 AM new
Rb. Point taken. I will confine my comments to a possible mental breakdown. The drug references are not needed here to prove the points.
my wrists are slapped.
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katiyana
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posted on October 25, 2001 01:08:14 PM new
I listed items for the Craft Sale they had there in October. Actually have one bid on an item closing in the next day or so.. for me that's a good sign - and I've gotten about 5-10 hits per item which for a little site is not bad.
Now I find out about this Verification thing.. one sale does NOT seem worth paying a $5 fee for the joy of selling there... I dunno..... I have been reading all the negative things said about them and now I'm wondering if I shouldn't just let those listings close and try somewhere else.. Epier still open?? Maybe I'll list my things over there instead...
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joice
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posted on October 25, 2001 02:15:14 PM new
RichHillbilly,
I have deleted our post.
Comments about the happenings on another message board should stay on that board.
Thanks for your cooperation.
Joice
[email protected]
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Janandpals
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posted on October 25, 2001 02:28:57 PM new
Yes Hillbilly,
The scenario gets more interesting every day!
I certainly do not come to A W in order to obtain accurate information or enlightening insite.
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johnnybravo55
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posted on October 25, 2001 02:54:39 PM new
Nobody is forcing anybody to read individual threads or posts. There's even an AW ignore feature.
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