barncards1
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posted on November 1, 2001 06:31:53 PM new
Post 5 dislikes about BV and then post 5 do likes about BV.
dis:#1 thru 5
Free forever change: but it is not law yet:
I do likes 1 thru 5
Are as follows:
they have more items than other small sites my sell thru rate is pertie good if I post on a reguliar bases top end card's sell for me there ----
the higest one so far has been Pujols RC 39.00 and change.
and to put it this way because this is my first time here..... I am a BIDVILLE chear leaer:
Go BV:}}
JB:}
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holysmokes
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posted on November 1, 2001 07:11:44 PM new
#1 There are more illegal auctions running there than any other site on the net.
#2 There are more NON AUCTIONS running there. IE people selling family members, Item # 4466768 which is a front page featured auction is nothing but a ad for a sale and a link to YAHOO auctions. A TOS violation for sure
#3 The lies one after another by Prez Ed. The coward who after promising free had not the guts to email members. Instead members had to find out the hard way via the announcments or during the course of listing.
#4 The message boards are nothing but a bunch of trash. Most of the posts look like something I see on the bathroom walls of my local bar. Trolls like Dreamgirl and Cuff run from there to here laughing about their feeble attempts to cause trouble while at the same time making Bidville look like the trash that it is.
#5 The TOS changes as quick as the mood of the Prez while on and off his meds. The TOS at signup conflicts in many areas with the recent announcments.
#6 Oh you only wanted 5 things.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 1, 2001 07:20:21 PM new
I gave my credit card info this morning but it wouldn't let me post. I do apologize for the nast e-mail I sent. It seems that I can post now. I like Bidville very much. I also have had a few displeasures with the place. But my biggest displeasure is to come to the boards and never finding anything good said about the place. I became friends with a few people at Bidville that got suspended. Some not all have bashed Bidville to no end. I do not agree with them. But I am still friends with them. I have always said that the message boards and the business part should be seperated. Why? Because we have lost a few excellent seller's because they have lost their tempers and then had it out with the Prez. The Prez does not operate in that manner. If you call him a liar or insinuate that he is Hitler or something similar. You might as well go sign out. If you get caught shill bidding you are history. A person does not get suspended at Bidville if you disagree with the PREZ. But it is the way you present your disagreement. I guess I am a Bidville Cheerleader! I can't wait until the day that the Bidville name will not be allowed on these boards. Why? Because nothing said is nothing negative. JMHO!!
P.S. I like Bidville because it is my auction home. When I disagree with the PREZ, it is still my auction home. Hillbilly
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holysmokes
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posted on November 1, 2001 07:27:08 PM new
Aside from a very few, there is not much good said about Bidville anywhere.
I disagree with your statement that people do not get suspended for disagreeing with the Prez. Of course since many threads are deleted when the Prez has not had his meds, neither one of us can prove right or wrong.
I just looked at your boards there. What did I see? Newbies complaining about no bidding, Cuff calling out Dimview and bragging about trolling here. What do I see on the featured auctions? See my post above. As a loyal member Hillbilly I wonder how you feel about a member featuring an ad on the front page with a big link to Yahoo auctions.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 1, 2001 07:40:09 PM new
holysmokes, I do not agree with any Trollism that goes on at any message boards. But my land alive feller. Bidville has to be defended by somebody. Somebody can let a simple beer fart here, and it isn't 10 minutes that many Bidville haters is wanting to know if the beans were purchased at Bidville. I don't mind a little romp in the barn once and awhile complaining of my disagreements with Bidville. But many here have the sledgehammers out from the beginning. I think it is pure sickening that this kind of stuff is allowed. Bidville is the last thing I would want to bash. I personally have a bigger beef with the terrorists that have helped to destroy the economy. There has got to be a break somewhere. All I see CuFF and dreamgirl doing is defending their auctionsite. Do I support them? No! But I ain't against them either. Many people here parlay all Bidviller's as being country hicks and trailor trash. I find that very offensive. Yes it has been stated here by a select few, and it also has been said at Bidville by the same select few. I personally have lived in a trailor before and found it much more affordable to live in than this big thing I have now. I am a country hick. I love it. My moonshine sales alone topple $160,000.00 a year. Minus $40,000.00 a year for fines, lawyers and political pay offs. If I wasn't a countryfied hick, shoot far & apple butter. I would be liable to go to work for Alleghaney Power or somebody. Bidville is the place to be. Bidville is also the place to see. The unmedicated "Prozac" Hillbilly
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holysmokes
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posted on November 1, 2001 07:51:57 PM new
How do you respond or feel about the hundreds of bogus/copied DVD and software listings on Bidville that go unpunished? You also did not respond to my question about the featured ad for Yahoo? These are not isolated auctions. They are what make Bidville look trashy.
The starter here wanted something positive about Bidville, here it is.
The site itself is stable and easy to use. If it ever gets a real CEO who believes in communication and has a clue about how to make and enforce a fair and accurate TOS, the site will rock.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 1, 2001 09:36:41 PM new
holysmokes, I am not sure about the Yahoo add on the frontpage I couldn't find it. I am not very educated with the DVD situation. Buzzoon used to stay on top of that and keep Bidville highly informed. I followed and read Buzzoons posts continually. But Buzzoon had some differences with the Prez. I even defended Buzzoon. I really showed my --- at Bidville because he was suspended. It is a wonder that I didn't get suspended. I won't disclose the reason I was told he was suspended. But it wasn't for disagreeing with the PREZ. Now back to subject! Bidville is my auction site. I do not agree with everything that goes on there. I am one of the very opinionated people. But I also know my boundaries. Naturally the PREZ is not going to be able to please everybody. Bidville sure does have a vocal crew of people there. We aren't perfect. Nobody on this earth is. Sure Bidville has some kinks that need to be worked out. But to have people sit over here and insinuate that the PREZ is on drugs because of decisions he has made is nothing but pure slander. If he wants to run Bidville to H-ll and back. He surely has that right. He isn't twisting anybodies arm to stay. I do have to state that Bidville is 89.6% better than when I became a member in January. The auction world as a whole is having difficult times. The country is in a recession and business sucks. That is the bottom line. If Bidville closes ship tomorrow. I ain't out a dab burn thing. I don't even have to clean out a locker. I have tried several free sites over the past two years. Bidville is big cheese compared to a couple of free sites. But we can bang heads for days to come over some of these issues. But I feel Bidville does not deserve the bashing that it takes. I am the one on drugs at Bidville (Prozac) not the PREZ. Any new business cannot always make the correct turns. Trial & Error will make a business. I have run a couple of good businesses into the ground myself. But I made a bunch of money from a couple of them also. Everyone take care. I have to go do some auction edit work. Hillbilly
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bidsbids
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posted on November 1, 2001 10:49:26 PM new
Bidville will not survive much longer. It is ready to implode. The members will then migrate to Carnaby, ePier, Yahoo Wharehouse, or some tiny worthless site where they can park their stuff.
The mighty eBay is evolving very fast and BV is still in the stone age. BV is a haven for scam artists preying on simple minded buyers that are willing to buy a high priced item from a seller with no feedback. It's the carnival coming to a hick town to dupe them out of the cookie jar money.
The boards are a sham and now at least 75% of the posters are domineering women trying to boss the other posters and management.
Okay, that was the list of good things about BV ....
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holysmokes
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posted on November 1, 2001 11:00:54 PM new
Bidsbids I was with ya until you lumped Carnaby into the worthless catagory. Of all the lesser sites, it has had the best planning and the most potential.
What do you have against Yahoo warehouse? Perhaps another thread for those topics. I am still trying to find 4 more good things about Bidville.
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bidsbids
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posted on November 1, 2001 11:18:03 PM new
I have nothing but praise for Carnaby and Yahoo Wharehouse. That list was a list of places where the citizenery of BV will go when the doctor gives up on his third venture into auctioneering online.
I have found something to praise BV for. The soap opera antics found on the Trailer Park boards.
The terrible spelling of the originator of the thread is a lot better than the average poster in the Trailer Park.
Here's a blast from the past ....
No Fees Forever (A statement from our CEO)
Over the past few weeks, AuXpal has received many inquiries regarding our plans for the future. Members want to know if our services will always be free. Here is the response you have been waiting for:
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Members,
Thank you for joining AuXpal. I realize it is not easy to place your trust in the hands of a relatively new and upcoming website.
Let me take this time to address our future together. AuXpal was created with the intention to provide a 100% free service always. There are no hidden plans to ever charge listing fees or final value fees (FVF's). Although I do not believe any website can promise to be free forever, this is certainly our intention. As an example of my commitment, please notice that NoBidding.com (our first website), is approaching its second anniversary and has never charged any listing fees or FVF's. Over $3.5 Million worth of merchandise has been sold there and we have not charged a penny.
I truly believe that AuXpal will remain free forever and members will never be charged. However, for those that require a stronger commitment, I will make a promise today. I personally guarantee that any member who meets the criteria below will NEVER be charged membership fees, listing fees or FVF's in the unlikely event that fees are imposed at a future date.
[ edited by bidsbids on Nov 2, 2001 01:03 AM ]
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 2, 2001 01:49:04 AM new
It doesn't matter what auction site a person goes to they all have their downfalls. None of them is going to make everybody happy. Whether it be Bidville, Yahoo, E-Bay or Carnaby. I can play auction in any of those houses. If I want to stay at Bidville and play auction the way I have been. I can do it. If I want to go to Carnaby and shake the house with high end top dollar cards. I can do it. If I want to go to E-Bay and put a thorn in the Power Seller's sides. I can do it. All it takes is high dollar cards, money, experience and a desire. I have 3 of the 4 requirements. If I got suspended tomorrow for something. I couldn't run over here and start a hate club. Bidville has done nothing to me. I don't think Bidville has done anything to most of you. All I see here is people making fun of trailor trash and poor spelling of Bidville members. It is rude, unpolite, and most of all childish. I would think we are all grown men and women here. Why pick on somebodies disabilities. The creator of this post might have some error in spelling. But let me assure you he has more backbone and heart than many of you here. I remember once when my son was in a terrible bicycle accident. He got pretty banged up. Head injuries and abrasions all over his body. He had no hair after the accident. I personally have a collection of cards worth many thousands of dollars. My son also has a pretty healthy collection for a 12 year old (Probably 20 or 30 grand) thanks to ole pop. But the creator of this thread drove from his state to my state and hand delivered a car load of sportscards valued at several thousand dollars. Duh! Is this trailorfied man crazy? Nah! Just a good person with a big heart. I also have bought from him for a couple of years now. He has helped more people at Bidville with problems than Carter has liver pills. He makes his first trip to this arena only to be disrespected and battered as any other innocent Bidviller. I say it is time to get over the obsession with Bidville and maybe pick on E-Bay or somebody. Like I say I am unmedicated and I jabber quite a bit. I come as the Hillbilly and not a Troll. Does this make me any better than any other Bidviller? Nah! I am just one of the crazy Bidviller's. I am searching for my inner self. Does anybody have a Prozac? Lets talk about how crazy each of us is. Am I the only crazy Hillbilly in cyberland? How about you bidsbids are you crazy? How about you holysmokes (I kind of like that name) LOL!!! are you crazy too. I'm going to go drink some shine and call it a night or morning. I have to be in court tomorrow. I threatened my neighbor and he got a warrant out on me. Can you all believe that liver lillied loser. Hillbilly
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barncards1
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posted on November 2, 2001 07:11:44 AM new
Hi HB;
#1. Yes BV is one of the best on line site's.
#2. We only have Fees to pay now because of all the bigmouths on the BV boards and here ECT..
#3. The cranberry site will not live... But if it does I still won't go there as I know for a fact they harbor shillbiders...
#4. Bidville is trying to grow within it means..... with out spending a ton of money of which the Doc and his friends do have.
#5. If it were one of the basher's that made the BV site and it were all there's to do with what they wanted to do then it would wind up beeing just like some of the other site's that will never make it....
GO BIDVILLE AND GOD BLESS THE USA
JB:} BV CHEARLEADER
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:00:40 AM new
#2. We only have Fees to pay now because of all the bigmouths on the BV boards and here ECT..
That statement shows a lot of ignorance. The scam artists have nothing to do with the fees?
As to someone's son getting into a terrible bicycle accident. Doesn't that point out very bad parenting? Let your kid ride his bike without a helmet and the accident is on your head. Many cities and states have strict helmet laws for young bike riders. It must be too macho to make your kid wear a helmet in some rural redneck states.
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RB
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:03:15 AM new
I would like to correct a statement made in this thread.
RichHillbilly wrote, in part: I won't disclose the reason I was told he was suspended. But it wasn't for disagreeing with the PREZ
You have no idea of why I was suspended. I doubt if even the PreZ would share that kind of information with one of his herd. If you were told anything at all about me, it would have simply been more garbage mouth nonsense from another one of the BV lunatics.
Here's a hint, two actually:
1. I voluntarily suspended myself from Bidville
2. It had everything to do with disagreeing with the PreZ.
If you want to spread rumours RichHillbilly, at least get them right eh.
Rob
aka Buzzoon
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holysmokes
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:08:07 AM new
Bidville is one of the best auction sites?
if a sell through rate of less than 2% is the best, we are all in trouble.
To blame the message boards for the fees is convoluted logic. If the Prez was not trying to line his pockets, he would accept voided checks by mail at no fee.
Bidville is what it is, a joke auction site, a bad social club and a waste of space.
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wallypog
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:19:29 AM new
The unfortunate truth of the matter is that not all auction sites can be all things to all people.
I sold during the summer months on BidVille and did very well, especially considering the size of the site.
I still haven't decided exactly what I'm going to do with BidVille when my verification runs out in three months but I have an idea it'll depend a lot on how my auctions go there during the next few months.
Personally I don't want to choose 'only' one auction site for my listings. That's exactly what has gotten eBay into the place it is now. For so many people it's the only game in town. I choose not to give one particular site that much power if it's within my capabilities to do so.
If there are shill bidders on Carnaby I have an idea that if the PTB knew about it they'd round them up and run them right out of Dodge. Considering the amount of bidding that goes on at Carnaby (practically non-existent) it'd be a little difficult to have a shill ring going.
When I first started selling on BidVille I saw it as a site with a lot of promise and haven't lost all hope for them, either. One thing that really worries me on the site is the amount of sellers who list pirated movies and such. I didn't come to this conclusion based on someone else's opinion--this is something I saw for myself. One example would be a listing for 'Snow White' on DVD a couple of months back. The movie wasn't released on DVD until about a month ago.
To my mind allowing sellers of non-legit products on a site is just as bad as shill bidding. Either way the buyers are getting ripped off.
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http://www.wallypogsbog.com
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:20:48 AM new
Welcome back RB. I knew you couldn't stay away.
Yup, the CEO, that can't sell anything on his own site, could have acepted voided checks as a verification method at no cost to the site users. $5/year is a lot for a site that generates hardly any genuine sales and a large portion of that is done amongst the gang.
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:29:16 AM new
Well Wallypog, if you do decide to ever sell on BV again you better change your name and identity. You are being crucified over there for sending carnaby spam to the BV faithful. ( thankfully some of them can't read at all ) You went from a saint to a devil in one fell swoop. Sketer showed her true colors with her post:
awwwwwww im not the least surprised hee-hee i had the pog figured out a long time ago theres another one in here thats colors will soon change if it dont get its way hee-hee or its mouth dont over load its humming bird .....ekkks
[ edited by bidsbids on Nov 2, 2001 09:30 AM ]
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wallypog
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:44:49 AM new
Woah, Bidsbids, I hadn't read the boards over there for a while!
I know I received an e-mail from someone that wasn't too happy about receiving Carnaby's invitation to join their sellers.
However, I had nothing to do with it.
Very interesting, indeed--I might just have to go take a peak at the lynching.
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RB
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posted on November 2, 2001 09:53:53 AM new
Welcome back RB. I knew you couldn't stay away
Thanks bidbids. The cc number I provided to get in here is a dead one anyway so no harm can come if it "gets out".
I just could not let RH's nonsense go unchallenged. You have to wonder about the validity of anything said by someone who claims it's moonshine sales alone topple $160,000.00 a year. That person is obviously totally out-of-touch with reality - the closest s/he has probably come to a real moonshine operation is when s/he watched "Thunder Road".
I have to wonder, too, why HB would perpetuate the image that most of us have about the Bidville clan while others are trying to steer us away from it and encourage us to try the venue.
I do agree with wallypog though about spreading your stuff around.
As to the bootleg DVDs, movies, CD's, software etc. that are encouraged to be listed on BV, you make your own decision as to whether or not you want to take a chance on buying this junk or take a stance and try to do something about it before some other unsuspecting buyer gets burned. Just remember that when you get the item and realize you've been screwed, there will be absolutely no consequences for the seller. This is one of the written BV rules that doesn't get enforced that kinda balances the unwritten ones that do get enforced.
Thankfully, no one is buying anything there anyway so after the gazllion relists have run out on these illegal items, maybe there may be some hope for the real stuff.
Very interesting, indeed--I might just have to go take a peak at the lynching
You're going to need an interpreter! Do trailer trash actually write the same way they talk or this another put on?
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 2, 2001 11:02:40 AM new
bidsbids, The Hillbilly a bad parent? Hmmm!!! Was that a statement to try to make me feel bad? Yes! We even have helmet laws in the trailor park. If you have children yourself you would know you can't watch them 24-7. Your statement detracted from the good wealth of my statement. R.B. I wasn't spreading rumours. I never stated the reason I was told you were suspended. I do have that much aurora. Yes! you did suspend yourself but you also came back a couple of times. I saw with my own eyes the reason you were suspended after you suspended yourself. That is all water under the bridge though. I have nothing against you or any of the other friends that I made that got suspended. I can't believe I gave my credit card to come here and squabble with you guys. Shoot I get in enough squabbles at my own home base. I already know that Bidville has some kinks and that I am not going to agree with everything the PREZ does. But I will ask again as I have before. Who owns the site? I guess he can do what he wants. Hillbilly
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 2, 2001 11:14:19 AM new
I missed your last post R.B. LOL!!!! I love your opinions. I do not agree with all of them. Sometimes you like to make out like you know more about the Hillbilly and moonshine sales than you actually do. You might be surprised if you ever came to these thar hills. Ask the creator of this thread if the Hillbilly knows what moonshine is. He has visited Hillbilly Mountain. You guys take care. Hillbilly
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 11:30:04 AM new
HB, I supposed that you never make your kid wear a helmet and perhaps that was an erroneous supposition. If so, I apologise. Your medicated and un-medicated posts are always full of interesting personal glimpses into your life and I think those posts are welcomed by the vast majority of the folks of Bidville. Some posts cross the line a bit, those off-colored joke or antedotes would never be tolerated anywhere but BV but you are not alone in the posting of these types of items.
Sometimes you try do to play both sides of the fence and perhaps a run at politics is in your future. Kissing mothers and shaking hands with babies ( or is it the other way? you do boast of being a devote Democrat, right ) may be in your future.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 2, 2001 01:07:39 PM new
Yeah! bidsbids I straddle the fence on numerous ocassions. I guess it just depends on which side the dog is on. I don't want my leg chewed off. If I have gripes I voice them. I always have. Then some things I just adapt too. Yes! I was a stern democrat for many years, but I also stated that if PREZ Bush would go over and attack the enemies that I would become a stance Republican. Nothing I do is cemented in concrete. Yes! I do make my son wear a helmet when riding. Most of the neighbor kids have motorcycles, go-carts, golf carts or 4 wheelers. I even have a tract of land that would make a gorgeous race track for go-carts. But ole juniour doesn't get to participate. I guess you could call it over protecting. Yeah! I try to do my best but I fail often. I may be the "Prozac" poster child, but for the most part I have the running mechanisms of life fairly secured. At least I don't have to work and can enjoy sparring on the boards. Yes! I have told many off colored jokes. I have tried to mild it down a bit. It isn't like I do not ever get into trouble at Bidville. I have had several e-mail talks with them. They let me know if I am out of line. But! I also don't cross the line. Hillbilly
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holysmokes
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posted on November 2, 2001 01:14:43 PM new
I think it sums it up about the intellect of Bidville when CUFF is quoted as saying "I have seen nothing unethical at Bidville" while attacking wallypog.
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RB
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posted on November 2, 2001 01:16:35 PM new
And I'll bet you willingly and happily pay the taxes on your moonshining biz to help the government fight terrorism, right?
What a crock ...
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holysmokes
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posted on November 2, 2001 02:12:53 PM new
Careful now! They are over there wanting to sue us for tryng to ruin their holiday sale. I think Bidville is just cranky because the mail scares have delayed the welfare checks.
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 02:31:08 PM new
If there is seller verification in place then why are they { I should say Cuff } afraid of terrorists running scam actions? If you'll note the sellers that are complaining about bogus bidding you will also note that they are the biggest whiners on BV? The other respectable sellers voice almost no complaints. Now, what little new bidders that may have come to the site are thwarted by a set of stupid buyer verification rules because of the whiners.
BTW, after Nov 6th nothing changes at BV except the feedback issue.
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RichHillbilly
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posted on November 2, 2001 08:34:33 PM new
R.B., Most generalizations of life is a crock. NO! I do not pay taxes voluntarily on the shine. But rest assured when they pull over a 1997 Dodge Ram that cost me $21,600.00 and keep the truck. Then make their own assessment of the value of shine on the truck to be way much more than it actually is. Add a $2,000.00 tax dunn that I payed in August. I believe they got their share to help with terrorism. Now that is the "CROCK"! I also sent $400.00 to the fire fighter survivor fund. But as the wifey states, "I need to keep my trap shut on the internet" about my roles of employment. Hillbilly
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bidsbids
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posted on November 2, 2001 10:38:10 PM new
They do the same thing with weed seizures. The feds claim a million dollar drug bust but there is really only $10K in value. In Nam the government claimed super high enemy body counts to keep the public happy but the actual counts were way lower most of the time. And then they wonder why few people trust the government's statistcs?
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