posted on July 23, 2000 08:26:31 PM new
Pareau: Your analogy elsewhere about the playground was very well put. I've felt the same way about the situation for months. Of course, I could never have articulated as well as as you did.
posted on July 23, 2000 08:29:50 PM newK-cat I travel around quite alot and am out walking alot and it has been a long long time since I have heard a man whistle or cat call at woman... must be an island thing.
Luckily for most of us males most women want to be looked at
Ain't Life Grand...
posted on July 23, 2000 09:00:50 PM new
Actually twelvepole, quite the opposite. Now that you mention it, I don't notice that kind of behavior as much over here as I did when I lived on the mainland.
Once when I lived in Texas, an incident began with such... a comment that pi@@ed me off and I let him know it. Then apparently unbeknownst (sp?) to me, the man began stalking me. I noticed little things like a work glove under my window and footprints but thought it was just maintenance. Until one night when I went outside and saw him again, standing under a tree watching me. I went back inside and was watching TV and a huge log over 4 feet long was hurled through my window. I yelled that I had a gun and ran out the front door to the nearest neighbor and called the police. The next morning I noticed that my tires had been slashed. It took me weeks to get all the glass out of the carpet, and I carried a gun with me everywhere for months afterwards.
Another time a few friends of mine were walking down the boardwalk in my mother's town on the East Coast... a seemingly harmless to some of you wolfwhistle and we turned and glared at the offenders. As we continued on, we noticed that they were following us. We turned a corner and they still followed us. We ducked a few more corners and finally lost them.
Still another time I took a train trip when I was 15 to my Grandmother's house. On the train I was approached by a man who just got too close. I don't want to go into the details on that event. It wasn't rape, but it was close.
posted on July 23, 2000 09:02:41 PM new
Continuing the train of thought in a minute... was interrupted by neighbors stopping by... hold yer drawers ...
posted on July 23, 2000 09:06:45 PM new
Ok, here I am again....
The point I guess I'm trying to make is that there are reasons why some women are either fearful or resentful of the men who take it upon themselves to do these things and to them it seems like a compliment...I actually had one guy say that once when I asked him to stop bothering me... he said "You should be glad to be bothered!" Whatever...
Well, darnit, those neighbors distracted me and I lost some of what I had planned to say, but I'm sure it will come back... a mind is a terrible thing to lose, lol
posted on July 23, 2000 09:27:26 PM new
You want to keep backtracking, twinsoft? Then point out that my profane comment to you was triggered upon learning that you had submitted deceitful information to eBay to cover your butt before you went ahead and improperly pulled krs's personal contact info. And why? Over a chat board dispute -- something totally unrelated to eBay, yet you deceived eBay into believing it was.
You want this to stop, twinsoft, then begin by biting your tongue the next time you feel the impulse to make another smartass comment about me.
posted on July 23, 2000 09:37:26 PM newI've read the second book in the "Gentle Art of Verbal Self-Defense" series (there are three books) and it was a very good read. Recommended.
posted on July 23, 2000 09:37:41 PM new
Whew,
Just got through listing stuff and this thing is still going.
Kcat,
30 years ago I had a blind date. A friend of mine had a friend visit him at college and dumb me agreed to be the jerks date. It was awful. I won't bore you with details of the wrestling (just say I wish we had pepper spray then) but at the end of the date he yelled out of the car that I would never get married because I wouldn't make out with him. Geesh, the creep. Never went on another blind date and my friend who wasn't a real friend wouldn't tell him to bug off. Had a girlfriend of mine not shown up at the right time I don't know what would have happened. But the experience taught me the feeling of being violated.
I just requested that everyone remember to address the topic, not the individual. Please keep this in mind as you post.
Everyone,
I have not read this entire thread, but it's obvious there are personal issues between some of the posters here. If anyone's posts bother you in any way, I urge you to use the ignore button.
This appears to be an interesting thread, but if personal comments continue to disrupt it, I will have to lock it up.
posted on July 23, 2000 11:20:40 PM new
calamity, before I had kids I performed professionally. Years of theatre, a little TV, and a lot of singing. It's an interesting position to be in because on one hand every performer loves the attention of an audience, but they love it for the thrill of the craft. But hand in hand with it comes the inevitable assumption by some that one must also enjoy an audience offstage. Not always true.
posted on July 23, 2000 11:30:11 PM new
Interesting viewpoint, kcat. One of the great benefits of UBBs is they allow interaction with people of categories one might never otherwise meet.
Just musing: If some feel that losing a testicle somehow makes one less of a man, what about vasectomies? Is one less masculine for no longer being able to impregnate?
posted on July 24, 2000 05:02:20 AM new
It's amazing how the women here are equating the castration as a physical thing and yet none have seem to grasp the mental side of it that some women put their mates through.
K-cat Thanks for sharing and I see reason for some of your thoughts. Yet it's like women...all men aren't that way and just enjoy a good look.
posted on July 24, 2000 06:47:25 AM new
A statement such as "when 90% of American women are fat andunattractive.", is not only on topic as an example of what is wrong in fostering a beauty contest objectization of women, it is in the instant case perhaps the perfect example of the POT calling the kettle black.
posted on July 24, 2000 10:20:21 AM new
krs, ROTFL. Good one.
Toomany, I agree completely. I think I mentioned it at the beginning of this.
Kcat, I know exactly what you mean. When I am one of my characters, I'm not me. I can feel the audience with me or not (hate the not). When they are with me there's no better feeling. That is my reward. I kind of put up with the clapping at the end because I always ask if they have questions and enjoy enteracting with them after because they have learned something new, are excited and understand the person better. When it is over I'm back. I know you know what I mean.
posted on July 24, 2000 10:37:00 AM new
mornin all
toomany, yup I'd have to agree with you on that one too. At least the grown gals who participate in that crap are doing so of their own free will. The children who's parents subject them to it don't have a choice. And the ones that don't win probably feel additional pain in letting their parent's down. Sad.
Edited to add I got sick watching all of those JonBenet paradings when they were on.. and the parents spewed how much she loved it. Give me a break.
[ edited by kiheicat on Jul 24, 2000 10:38 AM ]
posted on July 24, 2000 01:58:24 PM new
Spaz, that issue has been discussed at another auction chat site. I was threatened by another user there, I contacted eBay, and they suggested I pull the user's contact info. They also suggested I turn the info over to local police. I don't intend to discuss it and again I suggest that you not drag dirty laundry over here.
posted on July 24, 2000 03:09:14 PM new
Once again you manipulate language to make yourself appear as though your hands aren't dirty, twinsoft.
You told eBay that you were "threatened" on a "chat board," NEGLECTING to tell them that the words in question were posted on a NON-EBAY chatboard. In brief, you deliberately led Safeharbor to believe that the "altercation" occurred on an eBay board, such as Discuss New Features, Q&A, or any of those.
The fact is, since eBay was NOT a business partner of the board in question, and since really eBay is entirely UNCONNECTED to the board in question, you NEVER should have approached eBay about your problem.
Hell, you had as much business approaching eBay about your problem as you would have had complaining to Pat Taylor -- neither Pat nor eBay have any official relationship to the site in question.
But no, you went right ahead and pulled krs's contact info anyway, emboldened by the bogus justification you obtained from Safeharbor -- justification born of outright deception.
Then you went back to the site and flaunted to krs and everyone posting there that you, the mighty twinsoft, werent about to be pushed around, that you were more than capable of striking back at krs with the stolen contact info.
Since in a contact information request, your information is sent to them as well, you can basically request it for any
"eBay-Related" reason.
What I would recommend you do at this point (if you haven't already) is first block the person's email address, if your ISP provides such a service to prevent any email harassment.
posted on July 24, 2000 04:50:22 PM new
Catwalks, not catfights. Let's get this thread back on topic: SEX. If you must squabble, please do it where you can demonstrate your phenomenal communication skills to best effect.
Follow the bouncing ball....
Once upon a time there was an Engineer,
Choo-Choo Charlie was his name we hear
He had an engine, and he sure had fun
He used Good'n'Plenty candy
to make the train run.
Charlie says,
"Love my Good'n'Plenty!"
Charlies says,
"Really rings a bell!"
Charlie says,
"Love my Good'n'Plenty
Don't know any other candy that I love so well!"
posted on July 24, 2000 08:19:26 PM new
Nah Oddish, KRS couldn't POSSIBLY be implying that there is something inferior in being a woman. And, since he said it was about sex, the missing word has to be "lover".
posted on July 24, 2000 08:27:24 PM new
That explanation goes some length to account for one particular nom de plume. And the peculiar intensity the parties invest in their encounters. Ah, the pain, the pleasure, the sweet torture of of subliminalationism....
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