bearmom
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posted on March 19, 2002 04:42:36 AM
I still have to disagree with you Jim, based on my own experience. When I first started selling on Ebay, I made plenty of money. But Ebay kept taking more of it. That is what made me decide to leave.
I have always sold in antique malls and never minded their taking a percentage of the sales. that was part of business expense. But if they had suddenly jumped my rent and percentage without providing any more service, I would have moved out of there. And there would have been some beginner anxious to move in and take my place, until they learned the ropes and got out, too.
Ebay got greedy. That's why sellers left. I still make the same amount of money selling on several different sites. but I get to keep more of it!
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barncards1
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posted on March 19, 2002 10:30:00 AM
...many sellers may on BV may not research the true value of their item and offer it at a very low price.
That's a mighty broad stroke you paint all of BidVille with Robertsmithson. You and Blairwitch have much in common...
Typical reply from bidville crowd. I do pity the few good sellers there.
I pity you both for your narrow and judgemental minds. It comes across a lot like bigotry.
bigotry
\Big"ot*ry\, n. [Cf. F. bigoterie.] 1. The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.
I get the same answer...Um does yahoo have auctions?? It is so frustrating to me.
Didn't you say Yahoo has it all together in the advertising department Blairwitch?
http://www.mootropolis.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?s=3c977d577039ffff;act=ST;f=5;t=15
[ edited by barncards1 on Mar 19, 2002 10:30 AM ]
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blairwitch
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posted on March 19, 2002 10:37:51 AM
bearmom I read on message boards sellers saying how their prices are falling and how ebays fees are rising. Sellers must put their eggs in more than one basket to survive. Just wait till June 30th when the postal rates skyrocket. An example of ebays greed is charging for BIN. Did they need money that bad they had to add on the nickel?
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 20, 2002 02:47:09 PM
BV .. featured auction
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=5010594
ebay closed auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1713101039
s/h is 55 cents less with ebay auction than BV auction .. ebay auction states Priority Mail and BV auction does specify shipping method
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kodiheglin
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posted on March 20, 2002 08:50:48 PM
Yeah but..the BidVille auction made that seller more money. Mandpk is a great buyer from an APO address..stationed in Italy..buys LOTS.
Also .55 cents shipping difference is negligible.
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bidsbids
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posted on March 20, 2002 09:03:26 PM
Hi Kodi,
Looks like a $8.50 total difference to me. 
Speaking of APO address are you ready for the June 30th? huge increase in Priority Mail. As an Alaskan you and the farflung APO and Guam addresses will see the biggest increases as the Priority Mail is to charge by distance from orgin to destination. An Alaska to Florida two pound Priority Mail package could hit $7 and Guam to Florida could be a lot of coconuts. Presently, it's only packages over 5 pounds that get a higher rate schedule. To make the huge increase look like a deal some Priority rates will drop, but only if the distance is very short.
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katmommy
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posted on March 21, 2002 09:56:02 AM
bidsbids..
He meant the differance is shipping/handling is 55 cents..not the differance in winning bid.
MEOW
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 21, 2002 11:30:07 AM
The total difference in item prices prices was $8.50 and the BV seller did not even specify Priority Mail so the item could arrive by Parcel Post. I suppose the military personnel are well-paid and do not have to bother with comparison shopping?
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barncards1
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posted on March 21, 2002 01:25:47 PM
A simple email to the Seller would clear up the Priority Mail issue. Your comparison's are becoming increasingly ridiculous jimtaxi.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 21, 2002 02:55:17 PM
An $8.50 difference on a $25 item is ridiculous? The guy in Italy is gonna have to get everything by 2 month surface mail after June 30th.
Kodi you are correct. Someone gets screwed and someone gets to do the screwing. The buyers get screwed by using BV and the BV sellers do the screwing. Good for sellers but bad for buyers. But even the hayseed, backwater buyers on BV are getting smarter every day. The sellers edge will quickly fade.
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jimhhow
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posted on March 21, 2002 03:36:44 PM
Jimtaxi, you are mistaken. APO addresses do not get charge to the final destination. I believe the charge is to NY, or SF, depending on where you are sending from. I too know the particular buyer you are discussing, and have sent many items to her, all goes priority.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 21, 2002 05:19:27 PM
Jim,
I guess you have not read all of my posts in this thread or are current on the coming changes to the Priority Mail structure.
The current struction is that all Priority Mail is treated like First Class Mail in that it is the same exact fee no matter which US destintion it goes to. The exception is for Priority Mail packages over 5 pounds.
The new structure for Priority Mail will be very similar to UPS in that the item's cost will be determined by the distance it will travel. The prices may double for packages that travel a long distance. This is a very radical change to the current system and will shock a lot of sellers and buyers of internet auction items that are use to the old system.
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jimhhow
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posted on March 21, 2002 07:30:21 PM
Well, maybe you should read your posts. I was specifically referring to:
>>>>>>>>>>"Speaking of APO address are you ready for the June 30th? huge increase in Priority Mail. As an Alaskan you and the farflung APO and Guam addresses will see the biggest"<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 21, 2002 07:44:27 PM
If the APO address is in Italy the USPS will deliver the items there. But after June 30th they will charge the Priority Mail rate based on mileage. It may be $10 to mail 2 pounds to that address after 6/30.
This event will have profound effects on auctions and other internet sales. The choice is a sometimes much higher Priority Mail cost to customers or a much slower delivery option.
Those most greatly effected will be those that live the farthest from the center of the US. The distant APO addresses and Guam will be hit the hardest then Hawaii and Alaska and then the coasts.
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kodiheglin
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posted on March 22, 2002 01:23:06 AM
You are quite wrong about the lady in Italy. The usps delivers it to New York, and the military sends it to the base in Italy.So she pays the shipping from Alaska to New York. 5 pounds was $7.20
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kodiheglin
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posted on March 22, 2002 01:32:51 AM
http://www.oconus.com/ZipCodes.aspGood Info on APO/FPO addresses
Trying to figure out how to do a clickable link here.lol
[ edited by kodiheglin on Mar 22, 2002 01:34 AM ]
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 22, 2002 10:00:09 AM
Kodi, thank you for that useful information on that site. I stand corrected on the APO portion of my threads.
The other part about mileage still stands. Many Priority Mail prices should double. It won't be long before all mail except 1 ounze First Class Mail is calculated on mileage as well.
The sellers and auctions should work out a US map that has the zones and get the buyers use to the new system so it's not such a shock.
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kodiheglin
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posted on March 22, 2002 01:10:11 PM
I agree jim, the price increase in shipping may end my buying/selling online. We shall see.
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jimhhow
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posted on March 22, 2002 03:50:46 PM
OK, I agree the Post office is run by greedy SOB's. They could care less about running a company properly, because they can always just up the charges.
Take this latest increase because of the ANTHRAX mailings, and security to prevent it in the future. ANyone feel the US government should be paying that??? I do. I also think that they are.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 22, 2002 04:04:57 PM
I think that UPS is driving them out of business on packages because UPS is allowed to use both weight and mileage factors and the post office was not.
The email use and electronic bill paying is also cutting into their profits. Hell, even the spam on the net may be even cutting into snail mail spam's turf.
The post office is trying to get a piece of the pie before it's all gone I guess.
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jimhhow
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posted on March 22, 2002 06:47:47 PM
Well they may be shooting themselves in the foot. especially when it comes to electronic bill paying, pretty soon, I am sure someone will come out with that service cheaper than postage.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 23, 2002 12:02:02 AM
BV ( featured auction )
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=4965865
$75 + $0 s/h = $75
ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1338785819
$41 + $9 s/h = $50
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jimhhow
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posted on March 25, 2002 03:56:37 PM
err, Jim, have you checked that comparison auction for the mason jars lately?
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 25, 2002 07:20:15 PM
Hap, Thanks for your example...
I see that the bidder could have gotten the same jar for less and without a month long wait on eBay? Them theme of my comparisions is that items are cheaper on eBay.
Kodi, I think you will be in the same zone as the west coast so there is no penalty other than being on a coast. Sellers with small or light items can avoid Priority Mail on the auctions.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:00:16 PM
BV ( featured )
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=5166483
eBay ( Dutch Auction - 3 units )
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1341517062
note: it appears to be the same seller. No fees on BV so he asks $10 more than ebay?
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:20:29 PM
BV featured item
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=5138818
eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2011498785
note: same seller, same item, same price
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:29:17 PM
BV featured auction
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=5114732
eBay closed auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1711219777
ebay seller had $2.50 s/h and BV seller has a minimum of $3.90 s/h
$7 price difference and $8.40 total difference
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:34:24 PM
BV featured auction
http://www.bidville.com/listings/details/index_asp.asp?itemnum=5125689
ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1087754960
can you imagine someone buying the BV auction's sign and then seeing the ebay auction? Ouch!
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barncards1
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:47:49 PM
uh... I think everyone (except you) left the building quite some time ago.
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jimtaxi
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posted on March 26, 2002 11:39:11 PM
No John, you keep coming back.
Your TopNotchAuction site is a real loser too.
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