posted on March 10, 2005 10:34:42 AM new
Hillary turns "Consertative"? More Gov control.
Could Hillary be turning consertative in a bid to change peoples outlook on her, turning her back on her liberal background, readying for a run on the White House in 2008? Looks like it to me.
Gasp, the horror of it, Linda, tell me it isn't true.
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Isn't this something we true conservatives have been calling for all along?
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Clinton assails ``epidemic'' of media sex and violence.
WASHINGTON -- Children are suffering from a "silent epidemic" of media sex and violence, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton argued Wednesday in calling for closer scrutiny by parents and government of what kids watch and play.
Speaking a day before her husband former president Bill Clinton was due to undergo a follow-up surgery for a heart bypass operation six months ago, the senator argued the public health was threatened by increasingly raw media content. Clinton, D-N.Y., focused her critique on the new media that some parents worry are a bad influence on children: violent video games, the Internet, and sexually explicit television programs.
"This is a silent epidemic. We don't necessarily see the results immediately," Clinton said at a forum hosted by the Kaiser Family Foundation.
Over time, she argued, the effects of such media-driven desensitization teaches children "that it's OK to dis people because they're women or they're a different color or they're from a different place."
The senator took direct aim at one particular video game, Grand Theft Auto, a series popular among players and criticized by parents for its crime spree role-playing.
"They're playing a game that encourages them to have sex with prostitutes and then murder them," said Clinton.
Clinton and fellow senators Sam Brownback, R-Kan., Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., and Rick Santorum, R-Penn., want the government to closely study the impact of media on the development of young children.
She also urged television programmers to give viewers content warnings for programs after every commercial break, instead of the current practice of every half-hour.
As First Lady, Clinton pushed for better controls over what children see through the so-called V-chip law, which made it easier for parents keep inappropriate television shows away from young eyes.
The problem has gotten more complicated since then, she argued, due to the easy availability of salacious Internet sites, hard-edged video games, and all the other electronic devices now available to children.
"Parents worry their children will not grow up with the same values they did because of the overwhelming presence of the media," said Clinton.
A study released by the Kaiser Foundation Wednesday found a growing percentage of kids in the United States are "media multitasking" from their rooms, by surfing the Web, instant messaging, and watching TV all at the same time.
Nearly a third of kids 8 to 18 say when they're doing schoolwork at home, they're often doing one or more of those activities at the same time.
On average, kids devoted six hours and 21 minutes a day to recreational media use, up just two minutes from 1999, the Kaiser study found. That's more than 44 hours a week _ four more hours than a parent's typical work week.
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
[ edited by Bear1949 on Mar 10, 2005 10:37 AM ]
posted on March 10, 2005 11:28:29 AM new
Ha! You mean Hillary has learned to play the game from ole Georgie boy... tell them what they want to hear, promise them anything, just get their vote...well...good for her!
posted on March 10, 2005 11:36:34 AM new
Why does her stance say "conservative" ? There are many Democrats who believe in control over what children see.
It's conservative who tout
Bill (phone sex is a family value) O'Reily and
Rush(illegal drug user) Limbaugh.
Sorry, neocons, you don't have a "ownership" of decent standards .......... verrry obvious.
[ edited by crowfarm on Mar 10, 2005 11:38 AM ]
posted on March 10, 2005 11:55:30 AM new
Yes, bear, it's very entertaining to watch her 'come more to the 'center''.
But ol' Abe had it right when he said: "You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
-- Abraham Lincoln
....and I doubt she'll be 'fooling' many....too much history there to be ignored.
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Libra - Really? She was a Republican at one time? Do you know when?
What I've read is that during her law-school days she interned for the Communist Party's group of lawyers.
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And although she did suggest legislation along these same lines, when she was first lady, no one listened to her then. Will they now? I don't know. The 'study' she's requesting will cost $90 million....dems don't really care about the deficit when they're always so willing to spend more an more.
Think maybe we ALREADY know American youth is spending too much time on TV, etc? We can easily SAVE that $90 million right now. The answer's simple....no need for a 'study'. Answer is YES, THEY ARE!!!
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posted on March 10, 2005 04:02:17 PM new
Where Are They Now?
Four years after leaving the White House, Hillary Clinton plots her return.
Thursday, December 9, 2004 12:01 a.m. EST
We have been writing lately about Republicans. Let's pay some attention to Hillary Clinton, just for fun.
I wrote a book about her more than four years ago. The idea came from a friend, a bright former-Republican-now-Democrat who thought my Wall Street Journal pieces on Mrs. Clinton's looming senatorial candidacy could be turned into something longer that made the case against her. I immediately thought: Yes, that could make a difference. I went to my publisher, who agreed, and I hit it hard, speaking to Mrs. Clinton's friends and enemies, scouring the record. What I concluded was that Mrs. Clinton was an unusually cynical leftist political operative who had no great respect for the citizens of the United States or for America itself, but who saw our country as a platform for her core ambitions: to rise and achieve historic personal and political power both with her husband and without him.
Since the book came out I haven't written much about Mrs. Clinton. I'd said what I had to say. In interviews on the book tour I said what seemed to me the obvious: she would keep her head down in the Senate and work hard, she would gain praise for her ability to get along with Republican senators, she would position herself as a moderate, and run for the presidency in 2008.
She is, right now, in what is surely the happiest time in all of her life, her zestful, independent and productive 50s. She is the single most powerful figure in the Democratic Party. She is popular and broadly supported in her adopted home state. She has a star's presence at meetings, symposiums, podiums and parties. She is the Democrats' premier fundraiser. She is its presumptive presidential nominee in the 2008 cycle. Her daughter is grown and launched; her husband is recovering from recent surgery and is not likely to cause her future embarrassment because he is (a) not in office, and (b) the happy recipient of low expectations regarding his personal behavior. Beyond that any unfortunate actions on his part will only make her look more sympathetic and, in comparison, more mature and stable.
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posted on March 10, 2005 04:06:30 PM new
Hillary Clinton - A Quick Biography and Career Dossier
Politische Biographie - Hillary Clinton
by Alfredo Alvarez
Hillary Clinton can enjoy the spotlight. Throughout 2003, without raising a campaign finger, she consistently polls as the Democrats' favorite dream Presidential candidate for 2004, in contrast to over half a dozen others who have worked very hard only to get cursory press notice. John Edwards or Richard Gephardt must stand in line, one of many, on a stage for a debate. Hillary Clinton's persona draws crowds and press like a magnet, and her new book surpassed most people's expectations.
Clinton's $8 million gambit with publisher Simon & Schuster on her memoir, Living History, paid off quickly. Steller first-week sales made it second only to the new Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. She was the immediate toast of the publishing world.
In Living History, she describes her middle class mid-American upbringing. Her book begins, "I wasn't born a first lady or a senator. I wasn't born a Democrat. I wasn't born a lawyer or an advocate for women's rights and human rights. I wasn't born a wife or a mother."
Her story starts in Chicago, during the Baby Boom, raised by a conservative family in middle-class America. How could a smart young woman from Chicago develop into a defining character of US politics at the turn of the century? Her political life has certainly been interesting:
She became a Democrat in 1968 while attending Wellesley College. She was active in student politics and was elected student government president, whereupon she advocated the admission of more black students and admission of men to women's dorms. She went to Yale Law School where she met Bill Clinton.
posted on March 10, 2005 05:02:11 PM new
Will you Repugs please make up your mind...
Since the election, you have been wagging your fingers in the Lib's faces, shouting "The Dems better start to figure it out and get on the right track or they won't be winning any elections anytime soon...you'd think they'd learn... blah..blah...blah...
So now Ms Hillary is "leaning toward the center" as you put it, showing concern and agreeing with the Repugs and what do you all do...
You start to rant and rave about the horror of such actions..imagine agreeing with the Repugs...she has a dam nerve..now doesn't she!!
Make up your minds..or is it that you just want to #*!@ ....
rhymes with witch...
[ edited by maggiemuggins on Mar 10, 2005 05:03 PM ]
posted on March 10, 2005 05:14:13 PM new
LOL maggie - You give us no credit for being able to see just what you, yourself have suggested she do. Lie...lie...lie...do/say whatever it takes to get elected.
Problem is you think we don't SEE that's exactly what she's doing.
She's a hard left liberal...always has been in her political life. NOT anywhere near the moderate her husband was. No ones fooling anyone.
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If you've listened to Hillary Clinton lately, you could be forgiven for thinking you were hearing her husband, Bill. In the last week in particular, she's been positioning herself for a presidential run in 2008, modifying or even lying about her positions in an effort to obscure her hard-left record. Hillary a centrist? That's the plan.
On Jan. 20, Hillary deigned to pay homage to a being higher than herself (as if such a thing were possible). "There is no contradiction between support for faith-based initiatives and upholding our constitutional principles," she told an audience in Boston. Faith-based organizations "see God's work right in front of them" where others "see trouble," she stated. Americans need room to "live out their faith in the public square," she said. "I've always been a praying person," she added.
On Jan. 24, she called abortion "a sad, even tragic choice for many, many women" and encouraged pro-lifers and pro-abortion-righters to seek "common ground" in order to reduce unwanted pregnancies. "I for one respect those who believe with all their heart and conscience that there are no circumstances under which abortion should be available," Clinton averred. After restating her support for the egregious Roe v. Wade decision, Hillary went out of her way to praise faith and organized religion, which she said were "primary" reasons teens abstain from sex. "The fact is, the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place," Clinton said.
Forgive me while I retch. Hillary's baldfaced attempts at manipulating the religious in this country are as transparent as her ambitions.
This is a woman who respects the religious like Charles Manson respected the rich. When religious Christian Dr. David Hager was considered for appointment to a Food and Drug Administration advisery panel on women's reproductive health, Clinton immediately began to condemn him as a fanatic. As though a return to the Dark Ages were imminent, Hillary wailed: "We are going to be in trouble in this country if we start moving toward theology-based science or ideological research."
Clinton's support for abortion could not be any stronger if she were president of Planned Parenthood. On Jan. 12, less than two weeks before Clinton's appeal for an understanding on abortion, she pilloried the Bush administration for withdrawing funding from international organizations that commit or promote abortions. Describing "reproductive health care and family planning service" as a "basic right," Hillary explained that President Bush's focus on abstinence programs – those same abstinence programs Hillary praised on Jan. 24 as the "primary" reasons teens abstain from sex – was doing little to stop the spread of HIV-AIDS.
In 2003, Clinton voted against the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. In 2004, she voted against the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which protected the unborn from assault and murder but explicitly omitted a woman's abortion choice with regard to her own pregnancy. As of 2003, NARAL (the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League) gave her a 100 percent pro-choice rating on her voting record.
During her 2000 senatorial election run, Clinton welcomed the support of New York's NARAL, vowing to support abortion to the fullest extent: "Since the Republican takeover of Congress in 1994, there have been more than 100 votes to limit abortion rights ... We do not need another Republican in the Senate who would stand with Republicans to limit women's rights." She bragged that she would impose a political litmus test on judicial nominees. "I can't imagine I would vote to confirm" any pro-lifer (or, presumably, anyone who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade), she said.
Despite Hillary's latest "moderate" machinations, she's smart enough not to abandon her base. On Sunday, Jan. 23, Clinton ripped into the Bush administration for lacking "that thoughtful, visionary direction that got us where we are today ... The history of America is ... to make sacrifices today for a better tomorrow. The progress that then occurred moved everyone forward. That progress is at risk today." Apparently, remaking the Middle East and overthrowing tyrannies around the world are not visionary. Apparently, sending troops into harm's way is not sacrifice. Apparently, protecting America is not progress.
Like most Democrats, Hillary is trying to have it both ways. It's quite likely that she'll get away with it. After all, her husband did.
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
[ edited by Bear1949 on Mar 10, 2005 06:18 PM ]
Changing parties is nothing new. Laura Bush was a Democrat before she married President Bush.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
posted on March 11, 2005 06:53:39 AM new
But ol' Abe had it right when he said: "You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
-- Abraham Lincoln
That's is why people are finally waking up and seeing Bush for who he really is, a liar?
What happened to all his political capital that he was suppose to have. It appears as some Republicans are no longer kissing Bush's as*.
Seems to me the Republicans are scared if they are all concerned about what Hillary is doing.
You can't have Democracy without the Democrats
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- Bush will fix Social Security just like he has fixed Osama Bin Laden and Iraq. Bush can't be trusted to run this country and you want to trust him with your retirement?
posted on March 11, 2005 10:02:00 AM new
The stronger the support for Hillary the more the attacks.....the Repugs are running scared .........she just shouldn't fly in any light planes for the next few years.
Yup, she should do what she can to get elected....and lies work....witness the "election" of bush.
People are lazy, they just read the headlines and never go deeper to the truth. The "bumper sticker" mentality worked for bush and Clinton should use it to get elected.
posted on March 11, 2005 11:36:40 AM newYup, she should do what she can to get elected....and lies work....witness the "election" of bush.
Just like some Republicans are doing for the upcoming elections - repositioning themselves.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- Bush will fix Social Security just like he has fixed Osama Bin Laden and Iraq. Bush can't be trusted to run this country and you want to trust him with your retirement?
posted on March 11, 2005 12:27:55 PM new
What about her failed Health care. Bill gave her the duty and she failed...
People will give her a chance and I bet this discussion board will bring her failed things here also just like the democrats but I will be the discussions will be more civil.
posted on March 11, 2005 12:47:28 PM new
Has nothing to do with fearing hillary would win.
Has to do with all the skuttlebutt in print - taking polls on who could/couldn't beat her. Last I looked either Condi Rice or John McCain had her beat in the polls. The almost worthless polls..that weren't correct in the National election results.
The 'right' will have a FIELD DAY if she gets her party's nomination....some dems don't think she will. But should she....I look forward to all the discussion that will bring. She has so much negative history to be reprinted.
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posted on March 11, 2005 02:51:32 PM new
Here's an example for hillary to follow on lying from the pros.
Just heard that the Democrats wanted an amendment in the bankruptcy bill that would protect VETERANS from bankruptcy if it stemmed from their SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY!>
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The anti-troops, anti-American REPUGS said NO!
See, say you support the troops and then dig in the knife when ya think nobody's looking.
posted on March 13, 2005 06:53:37 PM new
bear - Wanted to be sure you didn't miss this one:
NewsMax's Insider Report has already revealed that key Democratic figures have been moving to stop Hillary Clinton's expected 2008 bid.
The latest figure to join the anti-Hillary faction is Sen. Evan Bayh, who sees himself as a Democrat who can win in 2008. "He's the best alternative to Hillary," a friend of Bayh's was quoted in U.S. News and World Report. Bayh's backers see the Indiana Democrat as a moderate who could win key Red States that have been voting Republican.
Some Democrats fear that Hillary may be perceived as being in the Dukakis-Kerry mold -- just another Northeastern liberal. This could lead the Democrats to catastrophe in 2008, this group says.
Ironically, other Democrats are angry with Hillary and her husband for moderating the Democratic Party and moving it to the center during their two terms in the White House. Leading this group are Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, both of whom have put their political machines behind another anti-Hillary person, Howard Dean.
Dean easily won the DNC chairmanship with Kennedy and Kerry's help. Hillary was said to have opposed Dean for the top DNC job.
Kennedy and Kerry are also said to be angry that Hillary has supported President Bush's initiatives in Iraq and the Middle East, including voting for additional authorizations for the Iraq operation.
Dean, too, feels the Clintons are too moderate. He also gripes to friends that the Clintons were behind his loss in the 2004 primaries.
To add to the mix, we hear that Al Gore is telling his friends he won't be running in 2008. Gore also has lined up in the Kerry-Kennedy-Dean faction in opposing Hillary.
How times have changed. Hillary, the self-styled liberal radical of health care reform has become a voice of moderation of the Democratic Party -- and an advocate of hawkish, pro-Bush foreign policy initiatives.
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posted on March 13, 2005 08:06:03 PM new
linduh pushes her hate campaign .....and we know why. Strong, intelligent, successful, rich women make her gag ( SHE said so).....they are so unlike HER
posted on March 13, 2005 09:47:36 PM new
Bear when crowfarm double posts it's because she in on the sauce. Soon she will get belligerent and than start spelling words wrong.
It seems like you crowfarm are on here more than I am. Notice how many threads you have started to push your agenda. Or is it because you want to see your name in lights. I haven't figured that out yet.
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