posted on May 6, 2005 03:58:19 AM new
I didn't answer you peepa because I doubt you would understand anything I had to say.
I would like to take a minute to apologize for the boards ganging up on you for spelling and grammar. It's not like most of them to do this. On the other hand your seeming arrogant and lack of intelligence posts do seem to justify such.
God bless the United States of America
GOD BLESS PRESIDENT BUSH.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on May 6, 2005 07:33:53 AM newBut...I understand you just refuse to ignore the facts and prefer to continue posting your aol polls that changing absolutely nothing.
And that makes sense? Bigpeepa refuses to ignore facts?
Bigpeepa does not ignore the facts and that's a problem? More should pay attention to the facts instead of ignoring them.
posted on May 6, 2005 10:48:52 AM new
Kiara what I was objecting to is his polls come from AOL. They are polls only AOL users can use and they can vote more than once. That is what I object to the polls. I don't object him posting polls but make sure that someone can vote only once.
How do you know we don't know the facts? Do you think we don't read. Well maybe you think we are stupid also. We just don't come in here, post in caps and then tells us that we don't know our "mindset".
Since this is a free country anyone can post in here including bigpeepa. So keep them coming but be honest when doing it. I am talking about the AOL polls and nothing else.
posted on May 6, 2005 12:18:14 PM new
Uhhhh........ Libra63, the post I C&Pd was not made by you and had no reference to you or did you realize that?
Bigpeepa is being reprimanded for refusing to ignore facts. That means he has an unwillingness to ignore the facts, which means he's paying attention to the facts.
How do you know we don't know the facts?
I don't know and I never said otherwise. I think you're trying to read something entirely different into what I said.
posted on May 6, 2005 12:31:33 PM new
who's on first??
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Baseball season has started,but they have it all wrong.3 strikes and you're out,4 balls you walk.I can tell you right now a man with 4 balls could not possibly walk
posted on May 6, 2005 12:51:35 PM new
Kiara what colin and I are saying that AOL polls are not facts.
Well Kiara if you would read his post he frequently uses my name because I don't know my "mindset"
I am not starting any argument or anything but when he posts polls from AOL it is only AOL users that can post and even though AOL has a huge following so do other ISP's but they don't seem to do that. I know he is going to keep on doing it because that is his nature but I would prefer if he would stop useing my name...and tell me what my "mindset" is.
posted on May 6, 2005 12:52:37 PM new
Rev.Colin, You said,"I didn't answer you peepa because I doubt you would understand anything I had to say."
Rev.Colin, all I can say is TRY ME.
I already said this Liberal agrees with you about the Drivers license issue. Lets try another issue. I am hoping we find a lot of common issues both conservatives and liberals can agree on. I will do my best to answer questions from you if you wish to ask any.
Rev.Colin my question to you is. I wonder how you feel as a fellow Christian about the following issue. The issue is this White House and republican controlled Congress are cutting almost every program for the poor and needy American while they give Hugh tax cuts to industry and rich?
I believe its very Un-Christian like. Do you agree or disagree? I will be waiting for your reply.
posted on May 6, 2005 02:13:32 PM new
Bigpeepa, I think Colin is one of the many who think the poor should just get off their butts and get jobs, as most are lazy.
posted on May 7, 2005 04:05:53 AM new
What poor are we talking about? Those that refuse to work because they think the U.S. Government owes them something?
I don't believe it's the government’s responsibility to take care of the poor. You as a Christian should take care of the poor. If the Catholic Church sold off some it its treasures they could feed and cloth the world. If more churches didn’t have over priced memorials to themselves, they could take care of their parishes. What’s the matter with using someone’s barn for services?
I don’t believe everyone is entitled to higher education for free. I paid, why shouldn’t they? I think many teachers are over paid, and many more are incompetent. I don’t believe it’s the teachers’ responsibility to teach a child, manners, what’s right and wrong or should they have to b3 a mother or father to their students.
I do not believe every building should be forced to cater to the handicapped. I can understand it for federal and state owned building but deplore the idea that commercial buildings are forced to do this too.
I believe in the death penalty. I think it’s a deterrent, if not its rightful punishment. I believe we should punish criminals, not coddle them with the bullsh*t idea of re-education. I don’t believe prisoners should have better health and dental care then I can afford.
As far as me being a Christian, that’s my prerogative. Unlike most so called Christians, I do not promote. I’m not a missionary. I care not what religious persuasion one accepts. Above all I don’t believe those that don’t believe in Christ will be barred from the promise of eternal peace. Live a decent life and you’ll get your rightful due.
I could go on but its Saturday morning and I have FUN things to do. Besides, I’m getting bored. These are things I believe are common sense. Unfortunately many don’t see this.
BTW…Don’t forget tomorrow is Mothers Day. God Bless all the Mothers and Mothers to be out there in Cyberspace
posted on May 9, 2005 01:36:07 PM new
Rev. Colin, Sorry I am slow in my reply. I have been busy.
Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts. Just like I thought this Liberal agrees with you more that disagrees.
1- I agree people that don't want to work should not get anything from the government.
2- I also agree too many churches make Hugh memorials and keep too much money for themselves. We all see church leaders from big fancy churches playing the people for money.
3- I also believe in the death penalty but can't support it at this time. Its a fact that our death penalty system has killed some innocent people.
4- I also agree, because I believe in choice that a person should be able to belong to a religion for their choice. I don't believe any religion should should try to stuff their moral values and judgments down the entire nations throats
5- The biggest most important issue you and I agree on is without question the United States of America must have a Health Care System for all.
Now what I disagree with you about.
1- I believe this government should help the truly needy, old, or sick American.
2- I do believe for the good of this country bright kids should get a higher education for free if they can't afford one.
3- I think every public building should have a handicapped entrance.
Now I think you should be able to see that a person that is a Liberal just might get along with a Conservative if the liberal and Conservative keep an open mind.
posted on May 12, 2005 04:58:09 AM new
Here's an update if anyone is interested. Looks like Congress has a fight on their hands. Edited to add: What? Does Homeland Security think that a terrorist is going to say, "Oh no. I can't get a driver's license in the U.S. Maybe we just ought to forget the whole thing"? Sure they will. Like Michele Waslin, director of immigration policy research at the National Council of La Raza in another article put it: “It doesn’t make us one iota safer. Not a single immigrant is going to be returned to his or her home country if they’re denied a driver’s license.”
States set to fight, defy driver’s license rules
Object to new federal requirements with no funding
The Associated Press
Updated: 10:36 p.m. ET May 10, 2005
WASHINGTON - States are threatening to challenge in court and even disobey new orders from Congress to start issuing more uniform driver’s licenses and verify the citizenship or legal status of people getting them.
There is concern among some states that they’ll get stuck with a large tab to pay for implementing the new rules and that getting a driver’s license will become a bigger headache for law-abiding residents.
“Governors are looking at all their options. If more than half of the governors agree we’re not going down without a fight on this, Congress will have to consider changing this unfunded federal mandate,” said Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, vice chairman of the National Governors Association. A Huckabee aide said the options include court action.
States fear the new rules may force applicants to make more than one trip to motor vehicle departments, once to provide documents such as birth certificates that states must verify and a second time to pick up the license, state officials said.
‘An enormous amount of work’
“What passed is something that will be an enormous amount of work and it’s questionable what it’s going to yield,” said Democrat Matt Dunlap, Maine’s secretary of state. “Is it going to yield national security or is it going to be hassle for people already complying with the law?”
The immigration requirements were attached to an $82 billion spending package for military operations and construction in Iraq and Afghanistan that the Senate passed Tuesday, sending it on to President Bush. The House passed the bill last week.
“We’d like to work with people to implement the needed reform and will be very disappointed if these groups thwart these important rules,” said Jeff Lungren, spokesman for Wisconsin Republican Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who wrote the new requirements.
Sensenbrenner said last week that waiting a little longer in line is “a small price to pay” to prevent future terrorism.
All but one of the 19 hijackers in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks had some form of U.S. identification, some of it fraudulent, the Sept. 11 Commission found. The commission recommended the federal government set standards for birth certificates and other identification documents, including driver’s licenses.
Some states already have been increasing their license requirements, but their work may not be enough.
Maine’s motor vehicle department is upgrading its computer system. But the upgrade doesn’t include computer coding to comply with at least one of the new rules: ensure driver’s licenses issued to temporary legal residents expire when the resident’s authorized time in the U.S. is up.
“That adds to the cost and throws everything into the woods,” Dunlap said.
Virginia’s motor vehicle department estimated it would have to spend $237 million to comply with the bill passed by the House if it maintains its current level of customer service. Some changes to the final legislation could alter the estimate, a spokeswoman said.
No money for states
The bill allows the Homeland Security secretary to offer grants to help states to comply, but doesn’t provide money.
States will have three years after the president signs the bill to obey the rules. If they don’t, their residents won’t be able to board planes or enter federally protected buildings.
States also question how they will verify birth certificates, whose appearance vary widely by state and county. Dunlap said his state has only a portion of birth certificates online.
Thirty-six states and the District of Columbia verify Social Security numbers online with the federal government or by another method, said Mark Lassiter, Social Security Administration spokesman.
In fiscal 2004, which ended Sept. 30, Social Security handled 18 million verification requests, rejecting 2 million numbers, Lassiter said. But the system isn’t foolproof.
California found many numbers were rejected for women who failed to change their name when they married, said Bill Branch, motor vehicle department spokesman.
Another concern for states is preventing identity theft if licenses carry more information, said Michael Balboni, a Republican New York state senator. Balboni and Dunlap represented the National Conference of State Legislatures on a now defunct panel Congress created in December to design new driver’s license rules. The conference opposes the new rules.
“What’s so ironic about this bill is everybody agrees with the concept, one person, one driver’s license,” Balboni said. “How you get there is really the tough issue.”
The bill is HR 1268
Cheryl
[ edited by CBlev65252 on May 12, 2005 05:02 AM ]
posted on May 12, 2005 01:19:49 PM new
HR 1268 Was passed in the Senate with NO VOTES AGAINST it. So...that means all the dems who voted too, voted for this measure.
Do I understand you right?...that now cheryl you still aren't happy even though BOTH dems AND republicans have agreed on this issue in the House and the Senate? The House passed it by a major majority also.
