posted on July 5, 2005 05:36:08 PM
Linda, I vote crowfarm, People usually migrate over here from the EO. I can't say I've swung through any mingotrees there, have you? lol!!!!! And note the use of the outraged so many question marks: (Tell me what to post, will you??????)
Oh and Mingotree, as long as you post here it will be picked apart. Sorry, but instigate has a very strong connotation, which I dont think you meant to use. So imo, it was entirely the wrong word in your statement.
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posted on July 5, 2005 05:46:07 PM
Double, when something is said about Kiara and she responds, she gets told she thinks everything is about her. Seeing this is a discussion board, how do you think she should respond, if you feel she's not doing it the correct way?
posted on July 5, 2005 05:48:45 PM
mingo- Now it's gone from fire hoses to lynching? Yes, MURDER is worse than "behaving badly". Yes, the KKK is evil personified. I don't think anyone here will disagree with that.
Get over yourself...You seem to want to pick a fight.
And, back on topic, I agree with alot of what Mr. Cosby is saying...but his delivery leads a little to be desired. Has he tried putting it "nicely" prior to this and felt he was ignored? I'm certain that would not make the news.
posted on July 5, 2005 05:51:29 PM
YOU! P Diddy-Kraft,,, you shut up! Keep out of it!!! hahahaha!! (kidding)
Actually, it would be a change of pace if for once she responded to the topic at hand with maybe an opinion on it without instigating a fight about the posters here, and how the posters here relate to her life. It is so old. C'mon kraft, you know its the truth. Have an opinion about something "other" than the posters on this board! Stretch out..relate to some other things! Geeze!
posted on July 5, 2005 05:58:16 PM
dblfugger9, I don’t ever want to be someone’s minion embarrassing myself by peeing up the board in excitement each time I see their words of support, so I will post my comments as I choose to, not the way you or anyone else wants me to.
Put me on ignore again and try to follow through this time. Thanks.
posted on July 5, 2005 06:07:12 PM
dblfugger9, if you go back and read my original comment on this thread and then read your comments I think you may find out that you’ve got things a bit skewed as to who was off-topic. I didn’t mention myself but you were talking on and on about yourself.
posted on July 5, 2005 06:07:37 PMAm I living in the same United States of America as the rest of you!?
Libra postsDiscrimination in my estimation is gone It is only a word that people use when they don't like something i.e. I am being discriminated against.
I see and hear discrimination down here all of the time..here are just a couple of examples..
when we first moved here we had been living in Nigeria for a year and we came to MS to be closer to my husband's headquarters..while visiting a real estate office we were greeted with open arms and down south friendly faces..about an hour into our visit a black couple entered the office and were inquiring basically for the same kind of property as we were.. they were turned away politely.. When I raised my eyebrows after they had left the office, the Realtors told us that they had definite areas white and black and told us exactly where the lines were and where we should not venture! They said they didn't have anything in the black area for that couple to meet their requirements...
#2.. I held an office job for a short time , when black applicants came in their applications were tossed in the trash can after they left.. and I'm sorry if this offends you to hear this .. but one black gentleman used my boss's phone and after he left my boss and the other man in the office made a big deal about him using the phone and pulled out windex to spray and wipe it..saying they didn't want any N germs.
#3 just recently..at my gym.. two black women came in one day to check it out...honest to god.. you could hear a pin drop.. after they left...several of the women said some pretty stupid racist remarks..and then all the silly giggling began.
I don't know where you all live, but my area is still rampant with discrimination...hell they even discriminate against people from Louisiana!
I apologize if my post has offended anyone, I didn't have that intention. Just wanted to tell you that if you honestly think that discrimination is gone, as Libra has said.. maybe you need to come and live here for a few months.
posted on July 5, 2005 06:16:43 PM
Put me on ignore again and try to follow through this time. Thanks.
I tell ya what...miss parrot: Why dont you stop telling other people what to do?? AND then YOU PUT ME on Ignore! Can you follow that directive?
(Miss Non-Minion!! Sheesh!-wonder who you lifted that one from! But I'm sure you'll be posting it for 10 days over and over until you find some other words you hijacked from somebody or somewhere else that you want to pass off as your own intelligence. You're so obvious its pathetic.)
I talk about myself in relation to life and issues which people can relate to. You, on the other hand, only want to piss on and about what people on this board post and youre narcassictic view of yourself in relation to people posting here! I'm sorry, its old and its boring!
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posted on July 5, 2005 07:09:27 PM
maggie, I live in the USA, and I don't see those kind of things happening in Seattle. Seattle is pretty diversified now, it reminds me a lot of San Fransico, well, at least certain areas of Seattle, like West Seattle
What we used to call 'yuppies' , then moved in that area, it is now a very liberal area, as is I believe Queen Ann, Capitol Hill and other neighborhoods here.
This is for SURE a blue state, at least Western WA is, now Eastern WA, its pretty well conservative, and if they were a state separated from W. WA, they would for sure be a red state.
Ok that went way off topic huh? LOL!!
But what you see in MS, its not right, but I don't believe the entire U.S. is like that. And no, I would hate to see the things you describe happen, it really is not right, and it would piss me off too, to see people treated the way you described above.
posted on July 5, 2005 07:14:45 PM
nearthesea was in your neck of the woods this past weekend. It never ceases to amaze me at the variety of people downtown and around the space needle.
posted on July 5, 2005 07:22:18 PMhell they even discriminate against people from Louisiana
When I first went to Oklahoma (and parts of TX) they would make fun of me, well, people I was introduced to (my ex's family, and it was a huge family, population of the small town was his family!) they would call me a 'Yankee' and 'Apple picker' and other things. (first, I don't think Washingtonians are 'yankees' as WA wasn't a state during the Civil War )
They made fun of my 'accent' , see, I don't think I have an accent, as they all talked with a 'southern type' accent. But it was pure hell, really! And I can't believe I lived there 3 years, long enough to have 2 children, then got the hell out. But that was small, small town OK, and small town TX. I've been to Dallas and Houston, and they were a big city like any other. Dallas most people didn't even have that 'southern' accent.
Ok I've gone on......... House reruns are on, and I have make dinner
No, never been, is that on the waterfront downtown?
I rarely go to downtown Seattle much anymore, its way too much traffic, I swear its getting like LA more and more!
We used to go to the Spaghetti Factory, and Ivars (on the waterfront) but its such a hassle , parking and stuff! We were driving around West Seattle Saturday, and we were all saying how much its changed, and my grandparents lived there till they passed on, and its not like what it used to be anymore! Every square inch is used, houses are bam, super close to each other, and the side streets are almost impossible to drive, as they don't have garages or driveways (most don't, some do of course) that they park on both sides of a SMALL street, its just incredible. Oy! and the price of real estate! I thought ours was high, down there, woaw, nothing below the 300k mark!!! (I'm sure there is, but very few)
I really, REALLY want to move to Eastern WA, to the 'high desert'. And we are SERIOUSLY thinking about it.
posted on July 5, 2005 08:12:21 PM
::Anyone reading the story, except you obviously, will notice what I quoted WAS near the end of the story....whereas what you quoted is right at the beginning.::
No Linda dearest.. the stats were blurbed near the top of the page but the actual part that I quoted which included more than just the stats was at the end of the article.
I do have to say that that I find it downright humorous that you, who discounts any stats that disagree with your oreconceived notions as irrelevent ort biased, would call me childish. That one was truly good for giggle.... but then I guess giggling just might be childish as well.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
posted on July 5, 2005 08:27:42 PM
Yes, fenix - it's not only childish it's petty and you were wrong in your assumption. You got a broke crystal ball too?
Childish to think you know what I read or didn't read....petty to continue to argue about something so very minor....and wrong because as the article shows....MY copy and paste was further down the article than yours was. So obviously I had to read it to copy and paste it.
posted on July 5, 2005 09:02:42 PM
Come on Linda - tell me again how petty I am to continue even as you post a link
Mine was further than yours was.... na.na.na.na.na.na
You are even beter entertainment than Hannity tonight.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
posted on July 5, 2005 09:11:23 PM
Yes Maggie that is what the south is and until someone steps in and tries to change it like Bill Cosby it will remain the same. To use bigpeepas word. The Mindset of some people cannot be changed.
Maggie what year was that? Now be truthful.
We have poverty in our City, both white, black and hispanic, We have homeless also. but I honestly don't see any discrimination. I do see truancy in the schools of all ethnic groups and the School district has now started a program where the truant officers go to the houses and bring those kids to school. It costs a pretty penny but in the long run it will be worth it. Education is the most important thing.
I doubt if the people that are from the south cannot understand that the people in the north really don't see any discrimination. It is just the territory. It's the people that come from the south to the north that cry that.
When I went south on a vacation in the 50's I was appalled at the black line and white line. I never heard or learned that in school.
I was in New Orleans for Mardi Gras and happened to stand next to a black fellow who had the most adorable young lad with him. I held him and some stranger came up to me and said you had better put him down before you start a riot.
JMHO
posted on July 5, 2005 09:43:30 PM
Libra63 am I to understand that since YOU haven't experienced discrimination it doesn't exist ?
I'm sorry but that is ridiculous. Like the thing about Reagan appointing a woman justice I think you should do some studying. Discrimination is still here. You're not a minority so how would you know?And judging from your posts I bet you wouldn't know if it did happened to you. I won't argue with you anymore because it's just so naive to think that discrimination doesn't exist that it's crazy too argue the point!
Read woman, study, research and it won't take you long to find the truth!
posted on July 5, 2005 10:12:56 PM
Get off your high horse mingotree and understand what I post I believe. You are not going to change my mind.
President Reagan said he pledged to appoint a women. Get over it he did not say because it is time for a women. In case you didn't read my post of the qualifications of Justice O'Conner I suggest you go back and read her credentials. They read better than some male Justices we have.
Why do you keep telling me what I believe in and because you participated in discrimination it does exist. I will tell you in the North it didn't exist so get over it. I really don't care what the south did as they are about 100 years behind the north. oops sorry southerners.
Now how do you know I am not a minority. Am I Jewish, am I Hispanic, am I Asian, am I poor, or better yet am I black? You do not know me so don't judge me. The only person you are trying to explain everything to is yourself, and you aren't grasping it.
Using the statement "read women" is discrimination to me. Get over it mingotree. Evidently you cannot understand what I said.
(Sorry fenix I didn't mean to bold but evidently mingotree can't read what I typed.}
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posted on July 5, 2005 10:24:19 PM
Libra, I'm trying to be nice ok, but you need a new punch line. You've said "get over it" about 48 billion times now. Maybe try "get use to it" or "time to move on", or something unique.
Mingotree, when you get Libra P Diddy all geared up, you know you're asking for trouble!
posted on July 5, 2005 10:38:07 PM
Libra63 already has trouble READING. From her own posts
-when President Ronald Reagan fulfilled a campaign pledge to nominate a woman to the high court -
Libra63 I said NOTHING about her credentials.
-I was in New Orleans for Mardi Gras and happened to stand next to a black fellow who had the most adorable young lad with him. I held him and some stranger came up to me and said you had better put him down before you start a riot.
JMHO-
Libra63 THAT IS discrimination!
I know you believe what you post but it doesn't mean it's true. What do you have against LEARNING something. With a little LEARNING( research, googling, reading a BOOK) you would learn two things which you don't want to know, Reagan specifically wanted a woman justice and discrimination still happens.
No, you are not black or hispanic, you are white or you would KNOW discrimination is still around.
yes, it's hard to read what you type because it's such gobbledygook but YOU can't read what YOU type!
posted on July 5, 2005 10:57:36 PM
Libra63 said-Why do you keep telling me what I believe in and because you participated in discrimination it does exist. I will tell you in the North it didn't exist so get over it. I really don't care what the south did as they are about 100 years behind the north. oops sorry southerners. -
I have never participated in discrimination and don't know how you can accuse me of it with no proof, that's slanderous and nasty.
I can't believe anyone could say discrimination didn't exist in the North !!! Unbelievable!
And then YOU discriminate against southerners in the same paragraph!
Libra63 do you KNOW what you're typing? You're joking, right? Nobody can be this stupid, you're pulling my leg, aren't you?
I better go to bed since I must be dreaming all this.
posted on July 6, 2005 05:29:40 AM
"Libra63 do you KNOW what you're typing? You're joking, right? Nobody can be this stupid, you're pulling my leg, aren't you?
I better go to bed since I must be dreaming all this."
Libra can and dose regularly demonstrates this on an ongoing basis.
You're ahead of the game; it only took you a day to figure it out.
posted on July 6, 2005 07:16:20 AM
Taking a line from Jack. And the beat goes on...............
Libra, I'm trying to be nice ok You are not trying to be nice you are crabby again. I can say what I want to say. Where are the rules in the RT? Show me KD. Where does it say I can't say those words.
And to the Mingotree we had no discrimination in the north. I guess you can't understand what I type. You need a bottle of 2 buck chuck and then maybe you will understand.
This thread although started out to be discrimination some in here tried, now I said tried to take that away and insert all ethnic groups into it. You are the one Mingotree that came in here with a startling statement. "anyone in here black" Now if that isn't discrimination nothing is. what does being black have to do with it. Read the thread. After a few posts it was switched to ALL ethnic groups. I guess you have selective reading and don't want to read that there are problems with all ethnic groups. I guess you can only see black. I can't. Many of my friends are black. Many of my neighbors are black, I worked with blacks. We were all treated the same. Many of my patients were black. I never saw color I saw individuals like we all should be seeing.
lol a bead seller enters the picture. Go count your beads. You add nothing to this conversation.
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posted on July 6, 2005 07:29:25 AM
Libra63 said-"Why do you keep telling me what I believe in and because you participated in discrimination it does exist. I will tell you in the North it didn't exist so get over it. I really don't care what the south did as they are about 100 years behind the north. oops sorry southerners. -
That's so inaccurate that it can only be trolling...just like many statements made by Libra. Even today, in urban areas of the north and south defacto segregation exists in housing and education.
posted on July 6, 2005 08:01:15 AMAnd to the Mingotree we had no discrimination in the north.
Libra63, just because you consider yourself older than time it doesn't mean that you know everything. Perhaps you should bone up on some history lessons instead of playing the part of a toxic granny here, being so condescending to others. Here is a history lesson of your own State.
posted on July 6, 2005 09:01:52 AM
Thanks Kiara. I am not originally from Wisconsin. Get over it I do not believe in discrimination. How many times do I have to say it. I saw nothing about discrimination when I grew up only what I saw in the south in 1954. Discrimination was not taught in our school system. Can you understand that.
I see now Kiara you have taken another poster under your wing. Have fun. But remember she is the one who started the black thing. "Anyone in here black" Now if that isn't discrimination I don't know what is.
How long did it take you to find this. Do the dirty work for everyone else to make you look good. Do not give me a history lesson about a state that I am not from. I did not have to learn Wisconsin History. If they had it here I had no idea. It is not here now. Poverty not discrimination among all ethnic races is here. But I guess you can't understand that.
New lesson for you Kiara W2 (welfare to work) was originated in the State of Wisconsin then Clinton patterned his welfare program after that. W2 was to take the clients off of welfare and given a chance get educated. Paid by the taxpayers of the State of Wisconsin. Welfare consisted of Whites, Blacks and Hispanics not just blacks.
