desquirrel
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:49:50 AM new
http://www.evilbible.com/
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:52:53 AM new
Tex, sure, you can interpret the saying (any saying) as meaning it's justification for the DP, but I highly doubt God would approve of killing for retribution, if you're trying to get the Bible to back you up.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:54:17 AM new
I've seen that one desquirrel. And your point is?? Just because you believe that stuff, or you saying we all should.??
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:55:34 AM new
kraft, you just said what the interpretation of the phrase is and proved our point by it.
No backing out now.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:56:40 AM new
I am not looking for the Bible to back me up on the DP. You don't believe in it and I do. It's that simple.
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mingotree
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:57:37 AM new
Sorry, Kraft, but if God didn't want us to put this garbage to death He shouldn't have created him in the first place.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 11:58:46 AM new
Kraft, I wasn't the one who brought the Bible into this discussion. Argue with rustygumbo.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:00:07 PM new
I don't care one bit about what the bible says or doesn't say.. this piece of human excrement needs to be flushed, but before it happens, let him spend a week or so with the biggest, meanest,bad ass, prisoners who will do to him what he has done to these kids. This is a mad dog, and you wouldn't keep a mad dog alive now would you..?
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desquirrel
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:01:37 PM new
"I've seen that one desquirrel. And your point is?? Just because you believe that stuff, or you saying we all should.??"
What the HECK are talking about??
Kraft wanted to know where it the bible it said this or that. She could choose a few thousand quotes at her leisure.
[ edited by desquirrel on Jul 14, 2005 12:16 PM ]
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:07:56 PM new
Desquirred, sorry if I mis-interpreted your posting of that web site. You didn't say anything about whether you agreed with it or not. I interpreted it that you agreed by posting it that the bible is evil.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:12:52 PM new
Hey, before we get the impression that I am a bible thumper, I am not. I am just arguing a point that was made in a post. I am with maggie on this one. Throw him in with the bad boys for awhile and then execute him. Sorry, folks. Some people are just EVIL. the sooner that is realized the better.
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desquirrel
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:23:22 PM new
I view the bible as a historical novel and those who attempt literal meanings or substantiation of anything to be morons.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 12:30:21 PM new
Quote" " I view the bible as a historical novel and those who attempt literal meanings or substantiation of anything to be morons."
To each his own, I view anyone who calls others morons as a probable moron, but whatever rocks your boat.
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 14, 2005 01:25:31 PM new
Tex, what makes you think I'm arguing with you? I'm just trying to answer your post. As for you being a Bible thumper, it never occurred to me. All I'm saying is that it's easy to make God's rules out to what you want them to be by interpreting things to fit your beliefs.
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logansdad
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posted on July 14, 2005 01:30:18 PM new
Tex, I'd like to know where it says, in the Bible, it's ok to kill people.
In my version of the Bible one of the ten commandments says : Thou shall not kill.
I guess those that agree with the death penalty have a different version of the bible.
-- Death penalties do nothing to deter this kind of behavior--
Yes, they do, once this garbage is dead he can't hurt anyone again .
And how does killing this one guy stop the next 5-10 people from doing the same type of thing to someone else?
The death penalty does not act as detterant otherwise we would have seen a decrease in violet crimes over the past 30 years.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 01:30:51 PM new
kraft, I fully agree with you. People interpret the bible in many ways, just watch the TV on Sunday morning. LOL.
Argue was not a good choice of words on my part.
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etexbill
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posted on July 14, 2005 01:34:49 PM new
May not stop the next 5 or 10 people from killing in a gruesome manner, but it will sure stop this guy. One at a time, One at a time.
Maybe you didn't read this post of mine:
I am not looking for the Bible to back me up on the DP. You don't believe in it and I do. It's that simple.
I wasn't the one who brought the Bible into this discussion.
[ edited by etexbill on Jul 14, 2005 01:38 PM ]
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Linda_K
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posted on July 14, 2005 01:43:56 PM new
logansdad - You are AGAIN WRONG in the statement you made about violent crime. The death penalty IS working...and violent crimes are GOING DOWN. Do you EVER read anything? You sure don't post anything factual lately, and you're VERY misinformed.
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050607-094046-8591r.htm
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What I love are the liberals who are SOOOOoooo against the death penalty yet are also pro-abortion....no matter how late in the gestational age the baby is. Call it pro-choice if you want to....being pro choice means you support allowing the killing of innocent babies....but heaven forbid a child rapist/murderer should be given the death penalty.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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twinsoft
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posted on July 14, 2005 02:03:56 PM new
Nothing can reverse the horror that was caused, but should we stoop to the level of a killer to make a point?
I do think, that in the interest of closure for this little girl, this man needs to die. I can't imagine growing up knowing that the individual who did such horrible things to me and my family is alive somewhere.
That is how I feel. His life belongs to the family of the victim. The state should carry out the execution for obvious reasons: we can't have everybody with a grievance killing each other. But there is simply no other way to pay the debt he owes.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on July 14, 2005 02:05:52 PM new
Wouldn't pro-choice also mean the state can choose to end this "things" life?
I understand where some here are coming from about the death penalty and I am not fooled into thinking it is some form of "justice". It is revenge pure and simple.
But people like this should not be allowed to keep breathing good air.
Ron
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kraftdinner
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posted on July 14, 2005 03:09:37 PM new
"kraft, you just said what the interpretation of the phrase is and proved our point by it. No backing out now."
You're absolutely right, Tex. I was giving MY interpretation to back up my beliefs. Sorry, that went right over my head. 
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Roadsmith
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posted on July 14, 2005 03:19:15 PM new
I'm generally against the death penalty. But sometimes I see animals masquerading as human beings and I want to remove them from the gene pool.
On the other hand, put him in prison for life, save the U.S. the $$ to put him to death, and let some inmate do it. I sound harsh, don't I!
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mingotree
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posted on July 14, 2005 06:15:37 PM new
What I love are the neocons who are SOOOOoooo against the abortion yet are also pro-death penalty....
It's the Double Standard Bawk ! Bawk Double Standard. C'mon LindaK you're just DYING to say it aren't .
Bawk! Bawk ! double Standard and the sky is falling!
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Helenjw
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posted on July 14, 2005 06:51:12 PM new
"What I love are the liberals who are SOOOOoooo against the death penalty yet are also pro-abortion"
A good book which includes a discussion of various positions and legal decisions on such issues is "Social Ethics; Morality and Social Policy" by Thomas A. Mappes and Jane S. Zembaty.
Mappes includes an analysis of various positions.... on Abortion, Euthanasia, The Death Penalty, Sexual Equality, Discrimination and Reverse Discrimination, Sexual Integrity, Pornography and Censorship, Violence, Economic Injustice and Environmental and Population Control.
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classicrock000
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posted on July 15, 2005 04:45:53 AM new
" What I love are the neocons who are SOOOOoooo against the abortion yet are also pro-death penalty....
It's the Double Standard Bawk ! Bawk Double Standard. C'mon LindaK you're just DYING to say it aren't ."
well Crow-what about the democrats who are pro abortion and against the death penalty-same double standard-HELLO??
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 05:02:06 AM new
Why don't you try reading a few other posts before proving what a lightweight brainwise you really are. Sorry you made yourself look so stupid.
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classicrock000
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:51:01 AM new
I dont have to read any posts-its a fact-by
the way,why did you come back with a different name-ya think you were fooling someone?? idiot
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 06:57:04 AM new
You're not fooling anyone . Everybody can see your're an idiot
Flattered you think I'm crow but thank god you didn't confuse me with LindaK or Libra!
Please keep up the good work of empty posts with nothing but insults, you haven't the brain power for anything else
Have a nice day!
[ edited by mingotree on Jul 15, 2005 06:58 AM ]
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fenix03
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:07:20 AM new
The reason our death penalty is not so effective in reducing serious crime is simple, is rarely given and takes 20 years to carry out. A prisoner sentenced to the death penalty stands a better chance of actually living longer than someone given life simply because they are never put into general population.
::That is how I feel. His life belongs to the family of the victim.::
Exactly! No matter how much you may disagree with other aspects of their culture the Saudis hae one of the lowest serious crime rates in the world because they strictly enforce their laws and the penalties of them. If you kill a man, his family chooses the manner of your death.
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No, I'm saying -- I'm merely -- I'm saying what I'm saying. I don't know why I'm always having people say, are you trying to say -- you know what you can do if you want to know what I'm saying is listen to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what I said ...
- Ann Coulter
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mingotree
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posted on July 15, 2005 07:13:40 AM new
The Saudis may have a low crime rate but some of the bloodiest, barbaric rulers in the world. Women may be killed legally if their husbands say so. So the "crime" rate is low, do you want to live there?
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