barncards1
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posted on September 29, 2002 06:43:49 PM new
Statistics
3,541 auctions in 1,052 categories now!
This site has had 99710 visitors
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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YourDesigns
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posted on September 29, 2002 07:00:14 PM new
99710 page views, not unique visitors. 
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toollady
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posted on September 29, 2002 08:54:04 PM new
How long has this site been open?
99K +/- doesn't sound like very many page views.
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tooltimes
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posted on September 29, 2002 09:04:12 PM new
How many items have sold that were sold at a final price over 75 cents? An auction site sometimes can really skew the sales with very low value sportscards.
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barncards1
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posted on September 30, 2002 03:07:59 PM new
99710 page views, not unique visitors
Sure don't count anyone more than once a day, nor is it in the bottom border where each page counts as a hit.
highest item I have seen sole has been over $30.00.
So Point???
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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toollady
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posted on September 30, 2002 05:54:08 PM new
Is that 99K for this month or since the site has been opened?
If it's since the site has been opened, when did the site launch?
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kodiheglin
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posted on October 1, 2002 12:57:25 AM new
JB, you should view my site more often before dig dig digging at it
Also, I always said it was page views..geesh.
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kodiheglin
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posted on October 1, 2002 12:58:35 AM new
Also that is not a border, it's a "footer".lol
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barncards1
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posted on October 1, 2002 07:01:12 AM new
Hi Kodi:}
Who said anything about your site??
Front page calls it a border, Top, Left, Right, Bottom.
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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barncards1
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posted on October 1, 2002 07:02:55 AM new
Oh I just may come visit: Hows it going??
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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yourdesigns
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posted on October 1, 2002 07:35:40 AM new
It is pageviews, not unique visitors. Unless JB wants to make the counter visible so we can see it clearly to prove us wrong.
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barncards1
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posted on October 1, 2002 08:36:05 AM new
Hello YD:}
It is in the same place it has always been.
Thanks for the interest in TNA:}
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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toollady
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posted on October 1, 2002 10:08:03 AM new
Does everyone have me on ignore? 
Can anyone tell me if the hits Top Notch is reporting are for this month or since inception?
When did Top Notch go live?
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yourdesigns
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posted on October 1, 2002 01:04:34 PM new
toollady:
Didn't you know? JB took a recent lesson from Jamie at AuctionPie on how to handle potential customers and customer service.
Those pageviews are from inception. I think TNA has been in operation at least 4 months, probably more like 6 months.
I would think the key information needed would be how many auctions closed with WINNERS, and thus give us an idea how many of those actual pageviews led to "sales".
Give you an idea about TNA "success" let's look at this statistic: (LOWER numbers are better, the BEST score being 1 (Yahoo.com))
TNA -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 544,990
Compared to:
SellYourItem.com -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 149,643
AlaskanAuctions.com -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 147,794
ePier.com -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 38,403
AuctionPie.com -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 299,244
QuicklySell.com -
Avg. Traffic Rank: 268,255
So as you can see even AuctionPie which just opened a month ago has a better traffic score than TNA. These numbers are provided by Alexa.com. So take them as you want.
The stats for TNA used to be on the front page, but they showed how terribly the site was doing, so JB pulled them and stuffed them away.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 1, 2002 01:29:37 PM new
I would think the key information needed would be how many auctions closed with WINNERS, and thus give us an idea how many of those actual pageviews led to "sales".
That is why I asked how many items sold with bids over 75 cents. It's not the quantity of sales but the quality for most online auction sellers that do not sell sportscards.
Example: A person could set up an auction site that had mostly low value sportscards and then report a 20% sell-through rate. Sounds impressive at first glance but it may only be a few dollars in total sales. Another site may have only a 5% sell-through rate but the average sold item price may be $7.50 . It's the old apples and oranges thing but if you only sell apples then you do not want the oranges sellers to look they are the much better deal when it may very well be the opposite in reality.
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toollady
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posted on October 1, 2002 01:52:24 PM new
Thanks for the answer yourdesigns!
I was thinking that the page views were for this month, the way they were being boasted about.
100,000 page views for 4 months time, for an auction site is pretty poor, considering they were advertising in the SuperSeller newsletter, plus all the promotional posts here, there and everywhere.
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barncards1
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posted on October 1, 2002 03:15:43 PM new
So as you can see even AuctionPie which just opened a month ago has a better traffic score than TNA. These numbers are provided by Alexa.com. So take them as you want.
The stats for TNA used to be on the front page, but they showed how terribly the site was doing, so JB pulled them and stuffed them away.
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Well TNA stats have been at that number since day one So Ask Alexa.com about them, and your the one said to remove the stats from the front page so I did as you ask me too.. Now I see why you said to do it.
Double standards: I guess Hu!! YD???
Stats are from the begining Your correct 6 months:}:}
PS:
Statistics
3,628 auctions in 1,052 categories now!
This site has had 100047
We have sold 600 items. High Dollar item 68.00 low item .10.
Sure is not the best but then we don't go spaming all over the place like everyone says we do:}:}
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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toollady
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posted on October 1, 2002 05:49:36 PM new
OUCH!!!
That's less than 1,000 hits a day.
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yourdesigns
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posted on October 1, 2002 08:29:47 PM new
JB:
When did I ever suggest that you remove the stats from the front page of your site, and why would you listen to me if I did (which I didn't)? The only reason I can think of is to remove the embarrasment of when you make inflated claims that your front page would show otherwise?
600 items? That is a nice round number. Now, how many auctions were listed to achieve 600 successful auctions, and what was their overall average? I doubt your software can cover that information, so it is a bit much to ask.
Why should we ask Alexa about those stats? There isn't a reason to question them, it just shows one other way of ranking websites. Nothing really to question other than it reflects the truth of your statement that you have very low page views per day on your site.
AP has high page view probably due to the controversy surrounding that dyfunctional site.
One thing I do find alarming is that the SuperSeller newsletter is expensive to advertise in and yet not producing RESULTS for TNA. JB you really should reconsider spending, what is it, $250+ per week (their recent rate card) on the Krause SuperSeller Newsletter if it is producing such a dismal output for you. You could easily buy millions upon millions of banners for that price, or even some traditional magazine ads in some publications. SuperSeller only reaches 50k of mostly ebay sellers. You need bidders too!
As always, this is just MHO!
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barncards1
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posted on October 1, 2002 09:17:04 PM new
YD:}
A good while back when you were giving your oppion at the Moo. You stated to redo the front page and get rid of the stats.
Now with the krause News letter we have not paid for them to keep putting it in there for a while although we do have a pay per sign up with them, if someone uses them as the refering email they get paid for them.
And at this time we are Advertising in PRINT:
Where I won't say Ok:}:} will call it a trade secret at this time.
Also Alxea has had TNA hits from day one. I don't know how they count them and don't care all that much as we are moveing on at a slow pace and I feel that this way will work better for all involved.
Thanks for the interest in TNA:}
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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yourdesigns
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posted on October 2, 2002 09:34:07 AM new
JB:
Are you sure Krause isn't going to end up sticking you with a bill eventually? I would becareful on that one.
Why not tell people WHERE you are advertising in print? Isn't that the purpose of PRINT is to get the word out? Are you afraid that other auction sites will advertise in the same publication?
In any case, neither Krause nor your secret trade publication prints are drumming in the business you hoped to get, unless you were aiming really low.
You have been in Krause for awhile and I am questioning their worth as a publication for advertising. This is no reflection on you or TNA. Just curious as I thought they had a larger readership than just 50,000 people.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 2, 2002 11:45:08 AM new
Krause boasts of 60,000 subscribers. I only scan my copy for a few seconds though.
Maybe John has found a good place for his print advertising and does not want his competitors to copy him.
After all, Nixon got elected with a secret plan to end the Vietnam war.
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yourdesigns
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posted on October 2, 2002 03:46:29 PM new
Then Krause needs to update their information:
"Reaching qualified, proven online selling businesses is easier than ever with Krause’s SuperSeller eMail Newsletter.
Krause’ SuperSeller eMail Newsletter is a b-to-b newsletter devoted to bringing solutions and answers to the intricate problems surrounding successful selling online. Every Tuesday and Thursday, 50,000 of the most dedicated and high-volume online merchants will receive Krause’s SuperSeller eMail Newsletter.
The core audience consists primarily of the most potent sellers from all the major online auctions sites and portals (and not just the big site, either-we’ve pulled some very interesting sellers from online resources most media buyers wouldn’t even think to look)."
This was recently received information directly from Krause.
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tooltimes
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posted on October 2, 2002 08:13:12 PM new
From their web page .......
The SuperSeller Auction Newsletter, published every Monday and Wednesday evening, is devoted to bringing solutions and answers to the intricate problems surrounding successful selling online. More than 60,000 high-volume online merchants receive this newsletter, published by Krause Publications, the world´s largest publisher of hobby-related books and magazines. We welcome your suggestions and news items. You can contact us at
http://superseller.krause.com/
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RadarLove
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posted on October 2, 2002 09:53:57 PM new
Call me crazy, but shouldn't advertising dollars be spent to reach buyers rather than sellers? If you have buyers, the sellers will come. I realize that most sellers are buyers too, but isn't Krause geared toward super sellers? The people you're reaching would probably have no interest in your site until it has more buyers.
It sounds like a waste of advertising dollars to me. And, in my mind it reflects very pourly on TNA management as it represents a lack of ability when making critical decisions.
RL
[ edited by RadarLove on Oct 2, 2002 09:54 PM ]
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tooltimes
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posted on October 2, 2002 10:17:23 PM new
I hate to say but RadarLove may have something there in the last post.
There is a common BV saying though " Sellers are buyers too".
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barncards1
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posted on October 3, 2002 03:48:07 AM new
I had to pay up front for the Ad's placed in the Krause news letter.
Ok we are fixing to be in print in there antique trader mag. Ok:} Plus we are getting listed in a FREE paper that goes just about all over the USA no big deal any one can do it if they want to we are also listed on some cable TV home pages.
Starting out small growing both ways at the same time.
Thanks for your interest
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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bearmom
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posted on October 3, 2002 04:17:08 PM new
Let me ask this... If the owner of a site conducted an 'experiment', where he had members bid on items, then wrote and told the sellers of those items that it was just a 'game' and all the 'other sellers' knew it was a game and didn't expect payment for the item-how much could a game like that inflate an auction site's sell through rate? Just a hypothetical question of course!
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barncards1
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posted on October 3, 2002 04:35:35 PM new
bearmom
posted on October 3, 2002 04:17:08 PM new
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Let me ask this... If the owner of a site conducted an 'experiment', where he had members bid on items, then wrote and told the sellers of those items that it was just a 'game' and all the 'other sellers' knew it was a game and didn't expect payment for the item-how much could a game like that inflate an auction site's sell through rate? Just a hypothetical question of course!
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We won't do something like that site is live so why would any site owner even think of something so low??
I have had some other Ebay members use an ID I made gave 8 of them the password ask them to list bid or what ever they did I had to pay for a few items but they never complained about the site not working they seemed to like it at the time We done that test.
I guess you will get a better response out of someone that does stuff like that.
JB:}
I Sell @ TopNotchAuctions.com
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RadarLove
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posted on October 4, 2002 08:02:24 PM new
Exactly how many separate auctions were bid on, and why would a site conduct such a test?
RL
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