posted on October 3, 2002 07:51:32 AM new
The stats do show bidville continues to grow into a sports niche site. The book section is almost one seller and very stagnant, and the other items continue to decrease in time. With the "surprise" membership fee hike many sellers are very upset, and they have a right to be.
posted on October 3, 2002 09:31:36 AM new
The stats show nothing of the sort. You and others have been pushing that line for how long?
What the increase in the verification fee will do is to make the site less attractive to warehousers who will move to another site where there are no fee's. Hopefully, the majority of the warehouser's are sportcard seller's. Thinning them out will make the auctions of active sportcard sellers and items in other categories more visible than ever.
posted on October 3, 2002 10:19:34 AM new
Yahoo is a prime example of an auction web site that instituted FVF and listing fee's too soon. When they backtracked by lowering the listing fee's it was too late. The seller base was depleted and along with it went the buyers.
posted on October 3, 2002 10:42:03 AM new
Not only that, Yahoooo restricted their membership using racial profiling - a very, very bad business decision for anyone to make these days. I hope they all drown in their own spewed out chunks.
posted on October 3, 2002 12:32:09 PM new
If Yahoo got rid of the listing fee there would be 3 million items there in 6 months and 400,000 on BV. ( the 299,000 books special seller and 100,000 items on 20 month auto-relists.
posted on October 3, 2002 12:32:12 PM new
This is the first I've heard about racial profiling, but I can't say that I find it surprising. Yahoo has a tendency to treat their sellers as though they are doing them a favor in allowing them to sell there.
I seriously doubt that tooltimes. The listing fee is only a nickle. It is always being said that BV has nothing but low end items. If that's true, and at only a nickle everyone would be at Yahoo anyway. They impeded the success of their site with the original .20 listing fee and have never recovered.
posted on October 3, 2002 01:39:20 PM new
RL ... they don't allow Canadians to use their garbage venue.
But, they will allow us to register and give them our CC numbers etc. When we try to list something, we are allowed to go through the entire process (compose the listing, add pics, set prices and terms etc.), yet nothing ever shows up in the listings.
When we ask them why, they don't respond.
It wasn't until someone here at AW advised me that all Canadians were banned from their venue that I knew what was going on.
OTOH, now that I am "registered" with them at least I know why the amount of SPAM in my mailbox has increased dramatically.
Yahoooo blows huge, slimy, green chunks and is a total waste of web space.
posted on October 3, 2002 03:15:05 PM new
It makes no sense to exclude Canadians from selling on Yahoo. With decisions like that it is no wonder they are failing in the auctions arena.
posted on October 3, 2002 03:35:16 PM new
Only a nickel. But with 1,000 items like very slow to sell items such as books that is $50 every 10 or 14 days.
The Yahoo Used Goods is not getting hardly any sells so that is not really an option. Scrap the Used Goods unit and charge the almost the same 10% FVF ( should be a little less as Yahoo would have nothing to do with exchange of money like they do at Used Goods now ). You now have the old Yahoo Auctions setup of free listing but maybe an 8% FVF. The ONLY drawback is the junk auctions but with a 50 cent or $1 minimum start bid will keep the BV 1 cent to 25 cent type of sportscards out. With a lot of FVF revenue coming in Yahoo could hire a human or two to go after the junk listings.
posted on October 3, 2002 07:00:50 PM new
RB and RL are the main reasons Yahoo added listing fees and won't let Canadians to their site. Kudos to Yahoo in depleting the crap off of their site. Good thing too as the great sellers and buyer stayed and the deadbeats like RB & RL went to (loser) bidville.
posted on October 3, 2002 08:15:24 PM new
It's funny that you think you know where I sell, and you make yourself look like a presumptuous idiot when you insult people for their opinions. Did I insult you? I think the moderators should eliminate people like you from this site. You bring it down and detract from the discussions.
posted on October 4, 2002 10:45:31 AM new
stonecold613 you are correct it was an excellent idea for yahoo starting fees. Even Bidville raised their fee, but they had to sneak it in so the natives dident become restless.
Yahoo made a wise choice by giving the Canadians their own site. There was alot of fraud from Canada, but dont blame yahoo for it. The US sellers had a poll and they voted against letting canadians on the site. I voted for letting them on, but the majority did not.
posted on October 4, 2002 11:35:13 AM new
Sorry RB but I remember the history that led up to the changes. Why else do you think they banned canadians from the US site? I dont think its fair either, but the majority of users voted for it.
posted on October 4, 2002 02:19:55 PM new
I don't see where it states that there was a lot of fraud coming out of Canada specifically. That is a presumption on your part, and a false statement unless you can substantiate it with proof. Apparently, you cannot, therefore you have not only lost what little credibility you had, but will also be viewed as a bigot in my book.
posted on October 4, 2002 02:33:04 PM new
RL ... my point exactly.
Calling Yahoo, which is simply an inanimate venue, a bucket of crap is substantially different than calling a person or an entire nation the same thing.
If the truth be told, I'd be willing to bet that percentagewise, the country with the highest number of fraudsters would not be what BW wants us to to believe.
The problem with surveys is that they can only consider data from those who respond, and the pollster can be very selective in who gets to play ... I (a Canadian) was never polled in any Yahooooo survey. Hence, my belief that Yahooooo blows major big, green, slimy chunks and is a miserable waste of web space.
posted on October 4, 2002 06:49:39 PM newCalling Yahoo, which is simply an inanimate venue, a bucket of crap is substantially different than calling a person or an entire nation the same thing.
Well RB you cant say Dimview baits flaming, because this is the best case. You are putting words into my mouth which is both childish and unprofessional.
If the truth be told, I'd be willing to bet that percentagewise, the country with the highest number of fraudsters would not be what BW wants us to to believe.
Once again you are putting words into my mouth. I never said any one country has more fraud than others. Fraud was a reason for the changes. Dont blame me I voted against it.
The problem with surveys is that they can only consider data from those who respond, and the pollster can be very selective in who gets to play ... I (a Canadian) was never polled in any Yahooooo survey
It was posted on the announcement boards and emails were sent. If you were a member at the time you would have been told.
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Wait! Do you smell something?
Oh yeah I smell something lol. Now I understand why people are suspended from auction sites. People take someones words and twist them around to suit their needs.
posted on October 4, 2002 07:35:33 PM new
That's a rather ridiculous statement for you to make considering stonecold and his attacks on people. If anyone should be ejected it would be him, but you didn't even flinch about that.... in fact, you agreed with him.
No one has put words in your mouth. You are angry because you can't substantiate your claim that Canada has a higher rate of fraud at Yahoo than does any other country. Perhaps you should refrain from making unsubstantiated claims if you want people to respect you.
