posted on September 3, 2005 01:14:07 PM new
Kiara, I can't find it now, but did Bush, more or less, say thanks but no thanks to all the help offered??
I feel the same way, Cheryl. If other countries will come to the aid of the U.S. when it's in crisis, maybe the world out there isn't as bad as we all think, especially since many countries didn't approve of the reasons Bush went to war with Iraq. In spite of everything, I think it's wonderful!
posted on September 3, 2005 01:24:47 PM new "So this is, according to our socialists here who want the government to be our nanny in every respect, the President's fault they couldn't/didn't follow emergency advisements"
Linda, your argument that this disaster is uncontrolled because those that stayed lacked personal responsibility has been thoroughly debunked . How long does it take you to comprehend an answer?
How can the poor evacuate if they have NO transportation or money???? How can the elderly and physically ill and mentally ill or frail who have no one to help them evacuate???? How could the hospitalized take personal responsibility and move out of the city? .How can the tourists who had no transportation evacuate? Are you nuts, linda???? Do you have no compassion or sense of responsibility for your fellow man? What is the matter with you?
posted on September 3, 2005 01:35:45 PM new
Linda, and they knew well in advance just how many people would not be able to evacuate due to what Helen listed. Could it be because they're poor and black?
posted on September 3, 2005 01:41:35 PM new
No KD, it wouldn't have been because of their race.....no matter how much the left is pushing that idea when the state/town is something like 95% black. There's not proof of such outrageous statements....just more hateful speech from the liberals, imo.
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helen, you'd never expect people to take responsibility for themselves.....you never have....nothing new this time.
You make excuses for those who could have taken full responsibility for themselves and heeded the warnings.....and use bogus excuses for the minority....that I'm just sure their fellow family members, neighbors, would have had the decency to help those others to get out, along with them.
You'd rather make excuse for everything, everyone and blame it all on this President....nothing new from you at all.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
Linda, those are not excuses. Those are legitimate REASONS. Whenever an evacuation plan is implemented, those reasons that some people cannot evacuate should be considered. Without that consideration, there is no plan.
posted on September 3, 2005 02:00:01 PM newHow can the poor evacuate if they have NO transportation or money???? How can the elderly and physically ill and mentally ill or frail who have no one to help them evacuate???? How could the hospitalized take personal responsibility and move out of the city? .How can the tourists who had no transportation evacuate?
Helenjw:
I'm sure I understand the point your trying to make!
But: It just doesn't hold Water!
How can the poor evacuate if they have NO transportation or money????
They didn't need (for-say) to evacuate,only go to the shelters they were asked to go to.
From there they would have been taken care of,as they are now.
How can the elderly and physically ill and mentally ill or frail who have no one to help them evacuate????
These people that you speak of must be under the care of someone.
These are the people who should have seen to their needs.
How could the hospitalized take personal responsibility and move out of the city?
These people are paying big bucks to be taken care of,local Gov. and E.M.S. services should have taken care of them.
How can the tourists who had no transportation evacuate?
Tourists aren't people who were born there,they got themselves in there they could have gotten out. They had plenty of time to jump on a plane or rent a car and leave.
The Federal Gov. has little or no control before hand, they leave it up to local officials.
The Federal Gov. is always brought in after the fact to help,just as they are doing now!
This Administration is doing No different than any in the Past,or what any in the Future will do.
There is a possibility however that this instance will change Future actions. Just wait and see what kind of a Reaction that will receive from Locals if the Federal Gov. pushes them aside beforehand and takes over!
[ edited by dadofstickboy on Sep 3, 2005 02:02 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2005 02:08:39 PM new
right on, dadofstickboy - Those here who don't hold any responsbility on those who were ORDERED to leave......just have to listen to them being interviewed on the TV networks. When asked why they didn't leave when they had the chance.....the liberals who are complaining here must be ignoring THEIR OWN statements as to why they CHOSE to remain. And they're not giving the excuses that helen, et al, are giving for them.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on September 3, 2005 02:12:20 PM new
I rest my case with that display of ignorance.
It's clear that the evacuation of New Orleans was a colossal disaster and the primary reason for it's failure was lack of transportation and lack of shelter. There was no plan.
posted on September 3, 2005 02:19:28 PM new
Helen, I might agree with you. But that responsibility rests on the local government first, and then the state. How could New Orleans, a place below sea level, knowing a hurricane was coming...not think to do some pre-planning for this all the time? You all want to blame somebody, but you have the wrong body of government.
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[ edited by dblfugger9 on Sep 3, 2005 02:20 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2005 02:41:16 PM new
You all want to blame somebody, but you have the wrong body of government.
dblfugger9 Thank you,Thank you, THANK YOU!
Finally someone has posted, what I have thought from the get-go.
The mayor of New Orleans very candidly was putting blame on Washington???? I realize he is tired and has to be very strained.
The Federal Government is not responsible to draw up a plan for evacuation for every municipality in the USA. Now, I grant you New Orleans has a special need. BUT who certainly KNEW THIS BETTER THAN THE FINE LOCAL OFFICIALS??????
They knew the levy problem.THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD A LOCAL EVACUATION PLAN IN PLACE-were they not the ones who also should have known the people they were elected to serve.
The Federal government was never meant to replace the state or local government.
I sincerely am sick about the dire straits of these people, the city of New Orleans and the entire area affected.
I am also disgusted with the way many are using this state of emergency to intensify their agenda -----To b and gripe about the current administration.
I did not vote for George (neither one)
but by George he is the President
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[ edited by deur1 on Sep 3, 2005 04:44 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2005 03:30:14 PM new
You're right, Linda. Aid shouldn't even be given to the remaining people regardless of their excuses. They should all be responsible for themselves. Most of them probably don't even pay taxes, so think of the strain they've put on govenment funds by staying when they were told not to. And you're also right about it not being a black thing. If this happened in a white majority state, I'm sure it would take just as long to send in help. Thanks for being a good Republican and pointing this all out to a stupid Liberal like me, Linda.
posted on September 3, 2005 03:30:57 PM new
How can the poor evacuate if they have NO transportation or money????
::They didn't need (for-say) to evacuate,only go to the shelters they were asked to go to.
From there they would have been taken care of,as they are now.::
Just out of curiosity - is locked in one of two buildings with no electricity, no running water, no fresh water or food for days and such a complete and utter lack of security that there were murders, rapes and medical personel left and refused to return? Is that the level of care you were referring to?
Are you so bound and determined to play cheerleader that you are completly blind to reality and will attempt to make excuses for that which even our government states is unacceptable?
You guys really do make Bush appear to be the compassionate conservative by comparison.
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[ edited by fenix03 on Sep 3, 2005 03:32 PM ]
posted on September 3, 2005 04:47:04 PM new
Kd - you only make yourself look foolish....when you post things you agree with that I've NEVER stated.
Is this the only way the left were taught to communicate? Must be as most of you continue making statements that were never written here by the Republicans.
Maybe that's why your party can't get elected.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on September 4, 2005 05:27:12 PM new
You dont have to thank me, but youre Welcome anyway, Deur1. I just say what I think, too.
That mayor is busy being mad at the federal govt.
