posted on January 13, 2006 06:40:36 PM
"Why are you so intolerant and close minded of those who think "gay" is a deviant lifestyle."
Why are you so intolerant to think everyone must live up to your moral standards and behaviors?
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on January 13, 2006 07:56:01 PM
Comrade Mom writes:
"Soon, the distinction between gay and straight culture will blurr and intermingle and there will be no need to carry on a conversation like this. Already, Massachusetts has ended the distinction between the marriage certificates that gay and straight couples receive."
They thought the same thing at Sodom and Gomorrah, some think the downfall of the Roman Empire was due to it deviancy. Who knows?
Helen, do you think Barney Frank (the lisping Representative from the 4th District of Massatwoshits) had anything to do with that?
I have to guess it will change before the Presidential election for Romney's sake.
posted on January 14, 2006 06:50:22 AMwell I never saw logansdad in that light,
....from the closet homosexual himself - classic
But I bet you said that about all the guys you were so willing to show you behind to while on leave in San Francisco.
Weren't you the one that so gladly stated how you got all the men turned on by parading around in your little sailor outfit. For someone that is claiming to be straight, this wouldn't be an achievement that I would be announcing to the world.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on January 14, 2006 07:48:35 AM
About the ones that do constant gay slurs, ...... and this forum abounds with them and usually always by the same posters....... to me it sounds like the guys making the rude comments aren't confident enough in their own masculinity and are a bit paranoid that they may be a bit gay or maybe they often think of being that way.
Hardly a day goes by without some of them posting about it and each time I read what they say I get that impression about them because they seem so obsessed over it.
posted on January 14, 2006 08:29:38 AM
I don't have a problem with Gays. I've had some great friends who are Gay. Why should their gayness bother me? Their sexual life is none of my business, neither is the sexual life of my straight friends.
Love comes in all shapes, genders, colors and sizes. People are people, we all feel. I just don't understand what the problem is...
As far as religion telling us who we can or cannot love.. phooey who needs a religion that preaches hate thy neighbor if they are gay.. not me..
Men seem to be so much more homophobic than women don't you think? I wonder why that is?
posted on January 14, 2006 08:42:07 AMMen seem to be so much more homophobic than women don't you think? I wonder why that is?
Maggie, I think Kiara answered that above with this statement : to me it sounds like the guys making the rude comments aren't confident enough in their own masculinity and are a bit paranoid that they may be a bit gay or maybe they often think of being that way.
I wonder how many of the same men that are making gay slurs sit at home and fantasize about having sex with two women. If they fantasize about having sex with two women does that make them gay or at least approve of gay sex.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on January 14, 2006 08:46:25 AM
LD say:
"....from the closet homosexual himself - classic
But I bet you said that about all the guys you were so willing to show you behind to while on leave in San Francisco.
Weren't you the one that so gladly stated how you got all the men turned on by parading around in your little sailor outfit. For someone that is claiming to be straight, this wouldn't be an achievement that I would be announcing to the world."
That's another reason straight men don't like fruits. They are always trying the "You are one if you don't like us" bullsh*t.
Get over it. Most straight men don't "hate" gays, they just don't like or respect them. You bring the slurs on yourself with your comments.
posted on January 14, 2006 08:54:45 AM
But you have to think about that Colin. Why is it that you react so strongly against Gay Men?
It's rare that I hear those who are constantly slurring Gay Men, do the same to Gay Women. What's that all about? In other words, when it's your own sex, it's deplorable, but when it's two women, it's what? titillating?
I just find it strange, like an over reaction..I don't have anything against Gays of either sex.
posted on January 14, 2006 09:00:41 AM
Maggie, maybe for some it assures them how masculine they truly are or something?
I mostly work with men and on occasion they all make gay jokes, sometimes even to or about each other. In fact the other day one of the guys was trying to hammer something near a corner and they were all making comments that he held the hammer like a girl or like a gay guy or like President Bush when he was trying to show off with that habitat house and held the hammer way up the handle instead of near the end.
Even though they joke now and again, the guys have the attitude ‘live and let live’ about others and don’t make it their business to judge and certainly aren’t obsessed with it like a few here seem to be.
Most straight men don't "hate" gays, they just don't like or respect them.
I disagree with that, Colin. The guys I’m talking about are straight but I happen to know that they like some gay guys and have respect for them because they deal with them all the time through business or through family situations. It’s not an issue.
posted on January 14, 2006 10:25:04 AM
Colinostomy bag: You bring the slurs on yourself with your comments
That is the biggest joke. You are just another bigot hiding behind your so-called church to promote your hate.
Since day one I have been called names simply because of my sexual preference. Who started the name calling? It wasn't me. It was all you insecure straight men.
I didn't post here for two weeks and yet you were calling rusty and I names. When there is a decent thread that stays on topic. Who comes along with a gay slur - you, classic or pie-in-the face.
Get off your religious high horse and admit that you are nothing but a bigot. You do not know the first thing about preaching the "Word of the Lord".
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on January 14, 2006 10:52:32 AM
ok, i will put my two cents into this.
I think straight men do not like being around gay men because they feel they get enough of that certain type of b*tch*ybehavior around women. Men have a sort of code amonst themselves and it includes a "dont go there" thing. Gay men will go almost anywhere with anything. And I am not even talking about sex.
I like some gay men (and women) as people. If they are fine persons, I will like them regardless of their sexual preferences, but some gay people can be very annoying and just downright mean.
posted on January 14, 2006 11:12:13 AM
"...from the closet homosexual himself - classic
But I bet you said that about all the guys you were so willing to show you behind to while on leave in San Francisco.
Weren't you the one that so gladly stated how you got all the men turned on by parading around in your little sailor outfit. For someone that is claiming to be straight, this wouldn't be an achievement that I would be announcing to the world."
LOL DAD-you're jealous cause ya cant have my azz??.I just bet you're dying to get at it arent you?-Too bad...sucks to be you(no pun intended)
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posted on January 14, 2006 12:10:21 PMI think straight men do not like being around gay men because they feel they get enough of that certain type of b*tch*ybehavior around women.
While that may be true in some cases, I doubt all gays have 'b!tchy behavior' and neither do all women.
Much of the kidding (such as the way a hammer may be held) is based on the stereotypical flamboyancy of some gays but I'm pretty sure that there are gay carpenters and longshoremen that show none of that.
Straight men can have 'b!tchy behavior' too. There are straight guys that always seem to be PMSing.
posted on January 14, 2006 01:21:02 PM
Only the most ignorant would laugh and make fun of gays for kicks. Exactly what I expected you to say, Washingtonebayer.
posted on January 14, 2006 01:57:46 PM "Gays are constantly the "butt" of jokes and being made fun of. It is prevalent in our society." "Whether a person has a problem or not the US society does not accept it as a natural relationship, but as a something to laughed at and made fun of."
Many people who are discriminated against have been the "butt" of jokes throughout history...for example, women, blacks, immigrants and gays.
The fact that gays may be the butt of your jokes is not an indication that their relationship is any less natural or meaningful than yours. Such humor is probably driven by homophobia...and may serve to ease the fear of homosexuality that many males in our society appear to have.
posted on January 14, 2006 03:46:38 PM"homophobia now is that the "card" the left loves to pull. If you don't agree with me you have some phobia."
Same "card" many people pull when they explain their behaviour by saying "it's in the Bible", instead of trying to figure out what their hate/dislike is based on.
posted on January 14, 2006 04:04:12 PM
Don't wave that limp wrist at me!!
L.D.writes:
"That is the biggest joke. You are just another bigot hiding behind your so-called church to promote your hate.
Since day one I have been called names simply because of my sexual preference. Who started the name calling? It wasn't me. It was all you insecure straight men.
I didn't post here for two weeks and yet you were calling rusty and I names. When there is a decent thread that stays on topic. Who comes along with a gay slur - you, classic or pie-in-the face.
Get off your religious high horse and admit that you are nothing but a bigot. You do not know the first thing about preaching the "Word of the Lord". "
A couple things LD,
First:
I don't think you read my post.
You LD, are your own worst enemy.
In your tirade on classic you made gay slurs as if they were a put down. (which, I guess it is)
Secondly:
Apparently you’ll never read any of my “Church” website. Or if you have your comprehension is Nil.
Third:
A real man wouldn't have been bothered by a little ribbing.
Fourth:
I just realized what your moniker stands for (L.D.)
Fifth:
If someone's making fun of you, they aren't making fun of someone else.
Don't you think Jesus would be proud of you?
Sixth:
“insecure straight men.” I don’t think so. I’ve raised 4 children who are all doing well. How many have you raised? (Don’t tell me, if any, I don’t want to know).
I enjoy the company of women, It’s a natural thing.
Seventy:
I was once a hate filled, baseball bat touting, (among other things) young man but that was long ago. Please don’t think it was gays I was angry with, it was anyone that got in my way. I still get that way from time to time, especially when some one is talking to me with an impediment of speech and is spitting on me. I’m guessing you feel the same way.
Lastly:
If you check the posts, you’ll find I bust every ones azz from time to time. Some people can take a joke some can’t.
posted on January 14, 2006 06:09:01 PM
The Bible is an actual document and can be a basis for many things, the "homophobia" is so over used it is no longer a stigma but something to be laughed at. You leftys have made it a joke whether you realize it or not.
What is your problem kraft? you can't let people be who they are and feel a need to change them? Not so different from the right are you?
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on January 14, 2006 06:33:17 PM
Washingtonebayer, I don't feel the need to change anyone's beliefs. I'm trying to understand why it seems more acceptable to hate/dislike gays than it is to accept them. How can that be good for people?
posted on January 14, 2006 07:11:46 PM
maggie
"It's rare that I hear those who are constantly slurring Gay Men, do the same to Gay Women. What's that all about? In other words, when it's your own sex, it's deplorable, but when it's two women, it's what? titillating?"
That's because gay women and straight men eat the same things.
Amen,
Reverend Colin http://www.reverendcolin.com
posted on January 14, 2006 07:18:49 PM
Actually Dbl., it’s elementary. Using my deductive skills, he says while removing his hounds tooth hat and lighting his pipe, I've come to this conclusion with the clues I’ve received from…that’s right…..Ms. Kraft herself, with the candlestick in the living room.
