WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:35:52 PM new
Oh and Bear lets not forget who finally pulled the troops from Vietnam, what party was he associated with again? LOL
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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profe51
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:43:55 PM new
Typical attitudes here once again. If you supported the VietNam war, you're part of a mass of sheep that blindly follow the herd off a cliff...If you questioned the VietNam war, you were a communist sympathiser. If you question Iraq, your an anti-American leftist. Reasonable minds are no longer allowed to disagree, reasonably, no matter what your personal political bent.This thread is pointless.
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colin
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:45:28 PM new
rubberwristwillie are you peebrains son?
Are you in here trying to set him up for one of his anti American, anti Conservative tirades?
Anyone else get the feeling these two are working together on this thread?
Neither one has anything of value to say.
Neither knows anything about the what or why of the Viet Nam war
Peebrain, You've got a good loyal boy there.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:46:07 PM new
And yet profe51 felt a need to post your 2cents how cute.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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nerfballwillie
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:53:39 PM new
What exactly does party affiliation have to do with anything. I couldn't give a shat about either party. To hell with Kennedy and LBJ as well as Reagan, Nixon and Bush.
What is it about small minded people that prevent them from seeing more than 2 sides to any issue? That's why you're sheep - not because you're democrap or repooplickin - that just determines what type of sheep you are.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 15, 2006 07:58:31 PM new
You haven't shown any side that is worth supporting nerfball. So when you do that there can be some discussion. All you have done is accused and basically called people names that don't agree with your opinion, and that is all it is your opinion with no facts to support even half of what you have posted.
But then again these wars are not related or similar.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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classicrock000
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posted on January 15, 2006 08:45:33 PM new
'All you have done is accused and basically called people names that don't agree with your opinion, and that is all it is your opinion with no facts to support even half of what you have posted."
damn-if I didnt know any better I would think wiffleballwillie was crowfarts husband
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classicrock000
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posted on January 15, 2006 08:50:34 PM new
"What exactly does party affiliation have to do with anything. I couldn't give a shat about either party. To hell with Kennedy and LBJ as well as Reagan, Nixon and Bush."
so you would just rather not have elections at all?? BTW who did YOU vote for in the last election???
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profe51
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posted on January 15, 2006 09:19:38 PM new
And yet profe51 felt a need to post your 2cents how cute.
Thanks for the complement. My .02 is worth just as many pennies as yours is pal, and my take is as I stated above. This thread is pointless.
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Bear1949
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posted on January 15, 2006 09:26:31 PM new
Ron, I didn't want to point out the obvious.
This thread is pointless.
As is the poster that started it.
Prof, I don't seem to remember a great deal of anti war protest when Kennedy & Johnson were in the White House. Only when Nixon came into office (and was working on the American withdrawl) did the anti war left crawl out of the woodwork.
But then we will never know if the left would have had the same feeling on Iraq if clinton had had the fortitude to go after Bin Laden and Saddam will we?
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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parklane64
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posted on January 15, 2006 09:35:34 PM new
Too?
Have you quit beating your wife, too?
Just answer the question, NBW.
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profe51
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posted on January 15, 2006 09:56:52 PM new
Bear, no protests that I know of under JFK, but things didn't really kick off in the protest dept. until '64. There was a bundle of significant protest under Johnson, who served 63-69. Consider:
Two different American protesters set themselves on fire in 1965 in immitation of ongoing Buddhist protests in Viet Nam at the same time.
On August 16, 1966 HUAC started investigations of Americans who were suspected of aiding the NLF, Anti-war demonstrators disrupted the meeting and 50 were arrested.
Viet Nam Veterans Against the War was founded in 1967.
Just a small sample. The war was still distant under Kennedy, and the media coverage had not kicked in. Johnson's era ushered in the first real heavy media coverage of a war with almost real-time reporting, and people got interested fast.
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bigpeepa
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posted on January 16, 2006 04:00:33 AM new
All I can say is its good being a progressive watching CON-servatives destroy themselves with their own actions and words.
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WashingtoneBayer
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posted on January 16, 2006 07:23:08 AM new
It's "Compliment" in the way you have used it and if the thread is so pointless, why post?
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
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replaymedia
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posted on January 16, 2006 07:33:54 AM new
"Two different American protesters set themselves on fire in 1965"
Ah the good old days. You just don't see dedication like that from the left anymore. Any volunteers?
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colin
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posted on January 16, 2006 08:27:02 AM new
“so you would just rather not have elections at all?? BTW who did YOU vote for in the last election???”
First I don’t know if limpwillie could vote with the felony barnyard sodomy conviction. If he could it would have been “Barney” the “pink” dinosaur.
Bear,
There was a lot of dissent under LBJ.
Replay,
Yes the good old days, an occasional Buddhist monk or two today.
The new left has no wiffleballs or may be they have better medication.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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Helenjw
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posted on January 16, 2006 08:28:29 AM new
For those not familiar with the Vietnam war there are several good books available....One which has been recommended by veterans of that war is "A Bright Shining Lie" by Neil Sheehan.
Another good one is "Vietnam: A History" by Stanley Karnow.
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Bear1949
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posted on January 16, 2006 08:30:00 AM new
Prof, thanks for the update.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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Helenjw
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posted on January 16, 2006 09:34:36 AM new
Timeline from 1945-1975
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nerfballwillie
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posted on January 16, 2006 02:55:08 PM new
To whoever asked - I voted Libertarian across the board. My position on the subject (to whoever asked) has been clear from day one - Somebody attacks, you fight back, otherwise, leave them alone.
As far as the name calling, you can't be serious. I've been insulted in every thread of ever posted in. Out of fear I expect, but it doesn't bother me. When I feel like it, I insult back. Generally you guys just bore me too much to waste my time.
Not sure who said there wasn't protest under LBJ, but that just goes to support my point about the lack of intelligence of some of the posters on here. Now I'm supposed to respect their opinion on the subject?
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colin
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posted on January 16, 2006 02:55:29 PM new
In the beginning it was justified.
Later then we knew we weren't going to commit the effort to win, it was a waste of time.
This war has no parallel to Viet Nam.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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nerfballwillie
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posted on January 16, 2006 02:58:16 PM new
BTW, maybe some of you should "refresh" your memories of what actually happened by reading the timeline Helen posted above.
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desquirrel
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posted on January 16, 2006 03:02:53 PM new
"Somebody attacks, you fight back, otherwise, leave them alone. "
Define "attacks".
You life would experience a much more dramatic change if Iran siezed the Middle East than if Canada "attacked" and siezed Maine or Mexico invaded New Mexico.
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Bear1949
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posted on January 16, 2006 03:20:22 PM new
You can be sure if Helen posted specific authors and books, they only agree with her point of view.
Generally you guys just bore me too much to waste my time.
Yet you keep coming back for more.
"“More Iraqis think things are going well in Iraq than Americans do. I guess they don’t get the New York Times over there.”—Jay Leno".
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nerfballwillie
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posted on January 16, 2006 03:21:18 PM new
When has Iran seized anything? And don't bring up hostages from 25 years ago, unless you want to bomb them for that...
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colin
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posted on January 16, 2006 04:12:14 PM new
I checked out Helen's time line.
It's a good look at what happened.
And I think she's right:
We should be using Napalm on the Iraq insurgents.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
http://www.reverendcolin.com
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Helenjw
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posted on January 16, 2006 04:22:55 PM new
"Napalm on Iraqi insurgents?"
Sounds like a linda_K solution.
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irked
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posted on January 16, 2006 04:26:12 PM new
War is NOT pretty, get out the mirrors- everyone needs a little rouge! OH never mind your already red faced.
pi$$ing and moaning won't change a thing about the past all we can do is hope to learn from any fopaws or however you spell that. & hope no one (yeah right ) suggest we take on Iran. OOPS too late the media is already on it.
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Can't touch this! uh huh, uh huh.
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classicrock000
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posted on January 16, 2006 05:28:09 PM new
"Napalm on Iraqi insurgents?"
Sounds like a linda_K solution."
and what woud YOU do?? Just insist they're "misunderstood" and throw them a party?
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nerfballwillie
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posted on January 16, 2006 06:12:40 PM new
Napalm was used to defoliate the forests in Vietnam that were providing cover.
Lots of jungle in Iraq, are there?
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