posted on September 7, 2000 11:30:56 PM new
Mybid,
I was ROTFL when I saw your last post. Sorry I missed all of this. I need to clarify something someone said. Rednecks don't have to have short hair. We have quite a few "Brownnecks" up here with longer "country music" hair.
And yes Shelley and Rawbunz, I am upset that you all are thinking about turning on your heat. Why it got up to 84 here today and I turned the air back on.
JT, that is a very common sight around here and my husband has to admire them all. Sometimes he brings one home and works for years restoring it. He even sold one for a friend of his on Ebay. Now that is the epitiomy of an Ebay Redneck. I dare you to plant flowers on it.
posted on September 8, 2000 04:04:00 AM new
Rednecks are good ole boys and gals But it is the redneck want a be's who give true rednecks a bad name
From the south and proud of it!!!!!
posted on September 8, 2000 02:04:12 PM new
A few notes on this flattering term:
"Red-neck, ...a name applied by the better class of people to the poorer inhabitants of the rural districts." This is from Some Peculiarities of Speech in Mississippi by H.A. Shands. By 1904 the word had even more negative connotations: "Redneck, n., An uncouth countryman. ‘The hill-billies came from the hills, and the rednecks from the swamps,’" from Dialect Notes II. William Faulkner used the term in his Absalom, Absalom! of 1936: "Rich and poor, aristocrat and redneck."
posted on September 8, 2000 02:29:17 PM new
HCQ LOL
Redneck
Kinda came back in the 60's & 70's as opposed to "Hippies".
In the South and OTHER places too... Rednecks were usually men with short hair, living in a climate that was hot, and usually got sunburned on the back of thier necks. You know hair short, opposed to 'long haired hippie'.
James! I have Pink Flamingos! (given as a gag gift on my bday! )
posted on September 8, 2000 02:58:47 PM new
I'm a Arkansas redneck "from who laid the chunk" and proud of it - and I LOVE the jokes - so, to all the grim and politically correct demanders - lighten up! Sheesh - Life is way WAY to short to go through it with the humor equivilant of a diet of pure rice cakes and bran fiber.
(They need to hunker for a spell with some of us fine folk that lived "up the holler" for a while. - Coupla hits off a plastic milkjug filled with "old crackskull" Brand moonshine might not hurt them either)
Here are mine - You are a redneck if -
"You have 4 chairs at the dinner table and fewer than 13 legs total on them."
"you have ever tried to figure out how ta put a gunrack in the back winda on the wife's Oldsmobile"
So Ya'll direct all these jokes directly to me and I'll promise to not take offense - and that should satisfy everybody. There is no offense if there is none taken.
nutspec - Who's heritage is on the "Roots" thread if you doubt my hillbilly ancestry.
posted on September 8, 2000 04:55:07 PM newKNOW IT ALL..a term applied to a class of people who think they are better than anyone else & know more than anyone else & love to spout their so called knowledge ad infinitum, ad nauseum without being asked or even anyone caring.
While I "think" I may have seen some sightings of people who "might" belong to the rednecks classification on this board, I can state with a certainty that I HAVE seen some sightings of some who definately belong in the "Know It All" classification.
posted on September 8, 2000 05:01:18 PM newBunnicula, you're quite right, and we've witnessed it here in a matter of a day or two for HVQ original definition included the word "white" (So the method of the "joke" here is to ridicule poor, uneducated Southern whites) and now it does not. Or did she take license with the official definition as she now presents one in order to paint an ethnicity issue into her objection?
posted on September 8, 2000 05:07:18 PM new
I loathe any kind of stereotypification (is that a word?) Redneck is a stereotype and depending on your bent--good or bad.
What I still don't understand is that in this fine year of 2000, people still think these types of jokes are funny. I'm Thin skinned and proud of it. We all are fallible to some lame brained ideas of humor--when is it your turn next? If I hear "computer nerd" one more time---get my drift? Or the worst case I have seen for the past year or so--"those stupid zealous bidders on eBay--Why--they don't know what they are bidding on or what is should cost? Help me carry my profits to the bank."(Imagine a Snidely Whiplash voice there)
It's inane and totally uncalled for in a public forum such as this for this low form of humor. Yep---got me a bit steamed.
edited to add--KRS---surely a person of your disputed education and years can get this sig--HartCottageQuilts-- right. It's getting a bit old.
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[ edited by jeanyu on Sep 8, 2000 05:12 PM ]
posted on September 8, 2000 05:30:33 PM new
Sorry - but it must be these feuding and fussing parts of my gene pool. But some of ya are taking this WAY too serious
Rice cakes and Bran - folks
Prefered form of an Al Gore approved - politically correct - guaranteed not to offend Joke - "Two average people meet in a non-offensive setting on a partly cloudy day - One person says to the other "wasn't that a funny story in the paper today" The other person says "no it wasn't" - The end.
A hahahahahahah! - Not
I belong to a collectors group that went out and picked an absurd name for ourselves just so that we would not fall into the trap of taking things or ourselves very seriously.
Redneckisms - "When grandad planned the hidin' place for the still into the barn - before they built it"
All size descriptions can be covered with the term "Big Ol" "He's a big Ol boy" "Durn that's a Big Ol truck" (Sub-type of term "Good Ol"
posted on September 8, 2000 05:51:22 PM new
Fact Sheet
Jeff Foxworthy is the largest-selling comedy recording artist in history with combined sales nearing 6 million copies.
Jeff's first CD, You Might Be A Redneck If .. (1993), is the largest selling comedy CD in history, with sales exceeding 3.5 million, and is also the first comedy CD to surpass 3 million in sales.
Nope - you're right - this kind of humor has no place in a public forum...
Jeff's second CD, Games Rednecks Play (1995), was nominated for a Grammy Award and has been certified double-platinum.
Course that happened in the backrooms cause everyone knew that redneck humor didn't belong in public.
Jeff co-hosted (along with Clint Black and Tanya Tucker) the 1995 ACM Awards.
They choose just any ole body for giving out that award don't they?
Jeff was the winner of TNN's "Comedian Of The Year" award two years running.
Jeff co-hosted (with Sinbad) the 1996 American Music Awards.
Jeff was the winner of The People's Choice Award for Favorite New Male in a Television Series (1996).
Jeff received a Blockbuster Award for Favorite Comedy Album for Games Rednecks Play (1996).
Jeff was the recipient of The Academy of Country Music Award's Special Achievement Award (1996), becoming only the second non-music-related artist to ever win this award (George Burns was the first).
Jeff is the author of nine best-selling books, including No Shirt, No Shoes, No Problem! which peaked at #3 on The New York Times Bestseller List (June 1996).
Jeff has been featured in People Magazine, USA Today, USA Weekend, Entertainment Weekly, The Los Angeles Times and The New York Times, among others.
Jeff has appeared on the following television programs:
The Tonight Show with Jay Leno
The Late Show with David Letterman
Late Night with Conan O'Brien
Later with Greg Kinnear
Good Morning America
Live with Regis & Kathie Lee
A Gala for The President at Ford's Theatre
Of course, none of those tributes were a "public" forum -
I find it interesting that HCQ had to search all the way back to the early 1900's to find something that could back up her position. After the comment yesterday:
Thanks for pointing out the incest/molestation "jokes," pareau. "Sad" doesn't begin to describe it."
Geeeez, how am I supposed to take that seriously? If it was so obvious then why did Pareau have to point it out to you? And, I still say that those two lines are not referring to the twisted crap you two pulled out of em.
Rednecks are good ole boys - and I'll say it again - they know how to take and give a joke.
And, How is this a "low form of humor" for folks who are laid back in nature enough to make fun of themselves. Life is short - get over the hyperventilating over every single thing you don't agree with. It's a chocolate and vanilla world. I like it that way.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:10:37 PM new
If an infinite number of rednecks riding in an infinite
number of pickup trucks fire an infinite number of shotgun
rounds at an infinite number of highway signs, they will
eventually produce all the worlds great literary works in
Braille.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:10:43 PM new
I can sorta kinda take the Asian jokes---no--no--no--not really..and I'm born Irish German. It's the humor at an expense of anothers heritage or ethnictrincity (is that a word? ha---Scrabble triple in the offering if it is ) that sorta sits in my craw. Joking at someone's looks, dress, style of speech, where they are from--just my idea of a low form of humor to boost up one's supposed ideal or plain. And a bit tunnel visioned that there is not a big old world out there that just might not look or think like you do.
The original poster of this thread probably thought this mode of humor was a howl--some of us just don't see it that way. Give me a heart wrentching silly play on words--- pun anyday. See---my perverted sense of humor?--but I'm not castigating a race or class of people. JMHO.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:16:49 PM new
If this clarifies things - Asians and other true ethnic groups are in the specific "group" if we must place them in a "group" because that is simply what they are born into.
Rednecks are rednecks because they choose that lifestyle - it's really not such a bad choice. Rednecks are notoriously laid back and enjoy life. They don't spend a lot of time worrying about what anybody thinks about it either. A little like the old "dumb as a fox" - And, when we hear redneck jokes we know that they wouldn't be funny unless they were exaggerated. I'd bet most redneck jokes were created by rednecks - I'd bet the bank on that.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:17:32 PM new
Shellsputer--heard that "joke" before--just not the American ethnic heritage you referred to. OK folks---just substitute any class of people or ethnic heritage you would like to make fun of. The joke is a barrel of laughs for all. NOT. Are we sure this is 2000?
posted on September 8, 2000 06:18:22 PM new
I'd also bet that none of the 3 who have taken exception to this humor have ever met or spent time with a genuine redneck.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:31:13 PM new
Mybidness--sure have met a lot of seriously strange people in my days--not like me at all. A bit near sighted when it comes to humans and how we are all different. But let us all know---what you think a "redneck" is. And I'll probably say--oh yea---I've met so and so--thought they were a bit different than me---but would never label them. Stereotyping is a serious misgiving on all of us. We are all unique individuals---none two alike. Honest.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:36:11 PM new
mybiddness-yes'm I have! <----raises hand
is THIS 2000? not sure, depends on whether your looking at the Gregorian Calander or......why would the year 2000 make anything different?
I do believe some are taking this a bit tooooooooooooooooooo far in referin to ethnic groups, etc. Heck, now lets get the disabled, Senior citizens,religious beleif, animal rights groups, (oh yeah, I heard, I believe its PETA, that is discouraging people from calling their dogs or cats as 'pets' but would rather you call them your animal companion oh... ok.... yeah.... ) but this is getting pretty damned silly... over REDNECKS for crying out loud!!! acccccck!
posted on September 8, 2000 06:52:16 PM new
jeanyu - what was so bad about what I posted?
I cut it from a long list of "scientific ideas" that needed to be explored....a joke of course. But I'm sure if I posted the whole thing, people would be crying about deforestation, animal rights, and I'm sure, a slew of other things as well. I am not fond of ETHNIC jokes, and I'm not predjudice, and I DO get offended when I hear people use RACIAL slurs. Growing up in Texas, I never ONCE, EVER, heard of a true Redneck getting upset at being referred to as one. Being a Redneck is NOT an ethnic group, or a race, it is a lifestyle that certain people CHOOSE to live. They drink out of Mason jars, wear overalls and hats, they are almost always chewing on something, whether it's tobacco, snuff, a toothpick, hay, a coffee stirrer, they have at least one vehicle that needs engine work, at all times (or they have a friend who's vehicle needs work), they put bathtubs in their front yards and use them as planters (though I've seen it in Jersey too) and horror of horrors, they are the most down to earth, caring and giving people you would ever want to call your friends. I am not guessing at all of this, I lived it (and got sick from the snuff).....Yes, some of the things in the opening of this post were tasteless, I can agree with that. I just don't think that mybidness had any clue that people would take it so literally!!! Like what I posted here before...I never heard it before the other day, and quite truthfully, don't get why it upset you so. For that, I do apologize.
posted on September 8, 2000 06:56:42 PM newIn my world, a 12-year-old is a child. In my world, a child cannot legally give consent to sex, and sex with a child must be, by definition, rape. If your smoking 12-year-old daughter has children, she's been molested but good.
I've been thinking about this. Is it rape or molestation if the father of the kids is a 13 year old boy? Or does it just fall into the category of kids playing with fire?
If your answer is "rape/molestation," does it mean that what many of us did on prom night was rape or molestation? I know I was a minor at the time.
posted on September 8, 2000 07:07:33 PM new
shellsputer--it's not nice to make fun of any ethnic group or socioeconmic class of people. Period. Jeff Foxworthy--very provencial and probably funny? He has made me laugh---but he is commenting on his life and experiences--a whole lot different than an outsider trying to make funny. Why does Harvey Firestone make me cry and laugh at the same time? Why does Chris Rock seem to have a true pulse on what's what? They know what they are talking about!! It's the pain and comedy of our lives that make us so intune to our emotions and how life has treated us. Enough--sorry to go on and on--just can't stand threads started at another's expense. Just me---too sensitive--I admit it.
posted on September 8, 2000 07:16:26 PM newJeanyu Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you - had to run get a pack of cigs -
I'm just curious why you would classify rednecks as "seriously strange people." You do know that I consider myself a redneck and wear the badge proudly. I promise you if you're stuck on the highway in the middle of the night - you would choose a redneck to call - cause they are some of the most loyal and giving people you'll ever know. Being a redneck is something to be proud of - and, even Foxworthy says in just about every interview that he gets most of his jokes from fellow rednecks. We just don't take ourselves very seriously.
Yes, they're are all kinds of people in the world. Some take offence at anything. Some even use a condescending look down the nose tone with a new poster. Not even realizing that that is much more unsightly to most of us than a few old and popular jokes. Not my style - but, we're all different. Some of us are just are just more accepting of and willing to embrace differences than others.
Spaz Depending on whose looking at it - it could mean anything. Literally stretched and stretched it could mean anything!
Shellsputer There was nothing wrong with what you posted, IMO. Again, welcome to an interesting little place on the planet.
posted on September 8, 2000 07:18:04 PM new
Spaz! You waited until prom night! Lordy! how did you do it? I waited until the beginning of my senior year of high school.
If you who deem us to be un-pc because we CAN see the HUMOR in this and in LIFE and LIVING want us to change and be like you and not see the humor in this please tell me then what am I allowed to think is funny? Who decides,YOU?
I LAUGH AT WHAT MY BRAIN SAYS IS FUNNY!IT MAY NOT BE THE SAME AS WHAT YOUR BRAIN SAYS IS FUNNY!SO WHAT!?????????
I prefer to be judged at the Pearly Gates thank you. I will wait until I get there to see if I have been wrong all my life.Don't need anyone here to tell me.Don't think you know.
posted on September 8, 2000 07:22:27 PM new
Were you raped or molested, Spaz?
The age of consent varies substantially around the world. Some places have no such determination, some have ages as high as 21. A Few have 12 as the breakpoint. One of those is in the US unless there's been a change within the last year. So when someone says "in my world blah, blah," they are only making a statement of local mores which does not give them any standing to object to the standards of other localities.
