posted on December 3, 2000 12:41:53 PM new
First those are not my accounts. A.W can verify I.P addresses. 2nd. Why not post your suggestions that you gave me to Ebay to follow. Oh yeah I forgot. They won't listen to you. Remember all of these topics that deal with disgruntaled Ebay users are put here by Ebay users. Where is Meg Whitman to defend her company. Oh yeah she is spending the 33 million dollars she received from selling her stock. By the way how IS Ebay stock doing these days.
posted on December 3, 2000 12:43:08 PM new
LBCEO: I have another tip for you to add to Pocono's tips: Don't piss-off, AW's Mark. He has a short fuse. The last auction site to do so was BidBay. They had there own message board here on AW. It abruptly disappeared shortly after this thread:
posted on December 3, 2000 12:45:01 PM new
Let's see Ebay in business 5 years.
L.B 1 and a half months.
Check back on tuesday when the power sellers on our site use our bulk loaders to put in those same high quality items that they are currently listing on Ebay.
posted on December 3, 2000 12:48:17 PM new
stockticker. I am not trying to piss off anyone. I am just trying to make the point that evryone says all new auctionsites fail because they mimick Ebay. Then one come along that is so innovative and it gets attacked too. Anyway I am leaving these boards and you can discuss on the LowestBids boards if you want. We will see who is right in the end. Good day to all.
posted on December 3, 2000 12:49:54 PM new
well .. the antiques and pottery and glass
categories are dead at that site - I think 3 auctions in all of the pottery and glass categories combined and almost no antiques - so it is certainly not a venue I would peruse. My auction interests are limited .. I can buy new stuff all over the www or at any store - it is the antiques and collectibles (30 years old at the very least) that make the online auction world appealing to me. But this is just my choice and my desires in a venue.
You will get no listings from this powerseller, and here is why:
I refuse to use a site that requires that java or java script be turned on to function.
At your home page your site tried to present me with 2 ads, 1 cookie, and 4 javascripts.
On each search that I did, your site tried to present me with at least 1 ad, 1 cookie, and 4 javascripts.
Naturally, I couldn't see any of the listing results of the search because I have java and javascript turned off.
If your programmers can't creat a site in C, C++, or one of the more common languages, it will not fly. There is too much danger in allowing java type program access to one's computer.
eBay, Yahoo, and AW use javascripts, but it is not mandatory to have it turned on to user their sites.
posted on December 3, 2000 01:34:23 PM new
OK- I had to take a look for myself. In the category I buy and sell in on eBay, there are currently 16,000+ auctions running. At LB, there is *one* (not one thousand... one auction). Yeah, that's happening.
Check back on tuesday when the power sellers on our site use our bulk loaders...
Want to offer any odds on how much that'll help?
We will see who is right in the end.
This ties in rather nicely with the topic of this thread. Gold's has been saying "just wait and see... any day now... once the sellers get their items listed, this place is going to take off" for over a year and a half. They seem to have taken off alright- right off the radar screen. Maybe LB will be different, but I'd bet not.
posted on December 3, 2000 02:56:17 PM new
Gee, when I left here this morning this thread had 12 posts and was scrolling towards oblivion.
lbceo, I did compare other auction sites to eBay above so I think your comments are appropriate, but then again I have not noticed your other posts. I won't criticize your site for having few listings, or for using Java.
I do understand that AW posters are sensitive about using the eBay Outlook to promote other sites. My pet peeve was with Golds sellers who seemed to always show up to brag about how great that site was. Well, no need to worry about that now.
Anyway, perhaps it would be better to post here on-topic like everyone else, and leave LowestBids aside. I'm sure we all hope the site succeeds. We all agree eBay needs competiton, or most of us anyway. Good luck and I hope to see more of your posts in the future.
posted on December 3, 2000 03:58:00 PM new
twinsoft, I will keep my post to related chat rooms.
Pocono
you wouldn't happened to be one of those Ebay workers/sellers that they are talking about in those other threads. Oh one thing being that you have it wrong. 48 employees and 19,000 sq feet of office space. If you want to challange this, email me at [email protected] and I will email you a picture of the buildings we are in and our staff. Or better yet come by and see us in Carson City Nevada. One final thing, our auction site was meant to be different and change the rules. Some will like it, some will not. That is o.k. I understand the skeptics out there. You have all heard it before. Remember what auction site has the most complaints and doesn't do anything about it. It is not us.
posted on December 3, 2000 04:11:05 PM new
For being the CEO of some Mega Corporation, how is it that you have so much time to hang around these boards all the time, posting under a dozen or so differnt user names?
posted on December 3, 2000 04:30:57 PM new
Hi Michelle,
Can you please advise, if the poster IS a business being discussed, then how do you go about ferreting out and seperating the two?
This person posts under several different user names here, which is a violation of the TOS/CGLs.
ALSO, he continues to spam the boards with his poorly vailed advertising attemps, while making derogatory comment after derogatory comment about his so called competitors.
This is surely not appropriate behavior for an AW Advertiser, now is it?
After all, he has stated that he "Advertises Heavily" on AW.
This is concerning to me, as I do not wish him to harm the reputation of this place that I enjoy and value so much.
Any advice that you can offer, would be greatly appreciated Michelle.
posted on December 3, 2000 04:56:23 PM new
LBCEO says: "Remember what auction site has the most complaints and doesn't do anything about it. It is not us." Talk to us when you have 4 million registered users, Chief LowBalls.
As to the topic of this thread...I am sorry that Gold's has closed. No...I didn't use it...simply because I "use" the places that I can find the pieces that belong in my collection, and they weren't at Gold's. Gold's wasn't a bad place, just like Amazon and Yahoo! aren't bad places either (I do shop both of those, but it sure doesn't take long).
Actually, what I think that Gold's had going for it was that it was, in fact, SO MUCH LIKE EBAY. We are creatures of habit, and most of our online auction habits, as buyers or sellers, have been formed at eBay. Me...most of us...we're not doing this fulltime. And it's so much easier to use a site where the interface is pretty much "eBay". No new habits to learn, and you "get" what you expect. And what Gold's had against it was that it was, in fact, SO MUCH LIKE EBAY. There wasn't much there that made it unique. Comfortable?...yes...unique?...no. So why shop or list at Gold's? Because the folks who ran Gold's were personable, or responsive...because they were. Because they "tried hard"...because they did.
Love it or hate it (and I swing wildly in-between on a daily/hourly basis), eBay has what we all need...buyers and sellers. If we buy, the stuff we want is there, in volume (sometimes too much volume). If we sell, well...that's where the buyers are (although there aren't enough buyers, EVER, are there?). eBay is the shop on Main Street...the rent is higher, but it's all about location and traffic if you're renting the shop. What the hell good does it do to rent the shop on the little alley for $100/month if your total traffic, with everyone a buyer, can't generate more than $75/month? No damn good. If I can't buy something (because it's unavailable, like guns or used underwear) in the Main Street shop...damn right that I'll walk down the alley and shop where it is. The alley store will be successful as a niche market. But it won't now, or ever, compete with the Wal-Mart SuperStore.
So...yes. I'm sorry that Gold's is gone. There were people...human beings...who staked their fortunes at Gold's (as site owners and as sellers), and they have lost. And that might have been predictable, but it still hurts.
posted on December 3, 2000 05:03:26 PM new
Hi Pocono
if the poster IS a business being discussed, then how do you go about ferreting out and seperating the two?
Well, you could start by not obliquely referring to Users as "lunkhead" If you keep your comments confined to discussing the business not the representative, then there is no problem (provided those comments stay within the CGs, of course). Company representatives should be afforded the same respect and treatment that other Users receive.
This person posts under several different user names here, which is a violation of the TOS/CGLs.
ALSO, he continues to spam the boards with his poorly vailed advertising attemps, while making derogatory comment after derogatory comment about his so called competitors.
This is surely not appropriate behavior for an AW Advertiser, now is it?
After all, he has stated that he "Advertises Heavily" on AW.
The moderation team has noted the concerns you and other members of the Community have voiced regarding this and we have referred all the necessary information to the AW PTB. You (and any other members) are welcome to address the matter directly to [email protected]
posted on December 3, 2000 05:07:01 PM new
Frankly, Michelle, if you could manage a 'pink line' in your post (instead of the blue-green one)...it would truly feel like deja vu...1998 all over again, complete with referral to the PTB.
posted on December 3, 2000 05:50:24 PM new
Oh Goody! Another place to auction off Beanie Babies and As Seen on TV Junk!
You can bring 20 Power Sellers, arm them with Bulk Listers filled with dollar store widgets and junk and you'll end up with what you started with - 20 Power Sellers who wasted their time and 200 pages filled with crap with no bids!
I seriously doubt any new auction site is going to survive because they all are missing the most vital thing - BUYERS!!!!
Evidentally Gold's failed because all the sellers over there got tired of buying off of each other to maintain the Pipe Dream they had. They kept promising major advertising and never did it as far as I know.
Personally, I'm sticking with the site that brings me the most Buyer Base. There is no way in H*LL that any future auction site is going to be able to form the base ebay has now.
