posted on November 15, 2006 01:14:41 PM new
Don't forget this thread didn't start out about Iranians, 98% of whom are Muslim. It started out about an American, who happens to be Muslim.
I just don't understand Linda, why is it that you go to such great lengths to post documentation and proof for a belief that you are too afraid to put into simple words.
We're all pretty much sure you feel this way, and it's OK, really it is.
____________________________________________
May 1, 2003, America brings "democracy" to Iraq. November 7, 2006, Iraq brings democracy to America.
posted on November 15, 2006 01:20:17 PM new
helen...I call you liberals as I see what you're doing...what you ALWAYS do.
You lie. You make up things to get attention by saying untruths....that have to be dealt with at some point.
Otherwise some people will start believing your lies.
kiara...did a whopper yesterday....about me and the FBI.
You and she CONSTANTLY make up this BS ...and then the person has to take the time to PROVE it wasn't true AT ALL.
I've grown more than tired of having to PROVE your lies untrue.
Can't just stick to the topic....have to make it personal all the time? Yep....that's what liberals do when they CAN'T support their political positions.
It's sad...pathetic really....but it's YOUR behavior.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
posted on November 15, 2006 01:23:29 PM new
Yes, it did profe. And as MOST threads go...they take on a life of their own.
You're the ONE who appears to want to DENY that this garbage has anything to do with their muslim faith.
I disagree. You are free to believe whatever FALSEHOOD [imo] you wish to....as I am to believe what THEY SAY about Christians/Jews/Infidels.
This isn't about ONE American muslim. This is imo, a religious war...that involves many Nations...but all the terrorism is coming from the MUSLIMS....not Christians....not Jews....not all infidels.
That you choose to defend them...is your right. I just see it MUCH differently.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
posted on November 15, 2006 02:05:48 PM newThen helen, KD, kiara started in on me OVER THERE.
I avoided you like the plague.
Linda, you have adopted from the Bush administration the belief that lying is normal. You have accused every good poster here of being a liar and many posters on OTWA...when in fact it's only you who lies.
NEVER have you been able to substantiate your claims that we are liars and you appear to believe that a difference of opinion is a lie. You lie with careless and ASTOUNDING disregard for the truth. We all know, for example that your latest lie that Kiara and KD and I ...in your words "started in on you" at OTWA is a blatant LIE. I avoided you like the plague and I never saw KD or Kiara as you claim "starting in on you".
You need to take personal responsibility for the fact that you were BANNED from OTWA. Stop trying to shift the blame for your inappropriate behavior there to me and Kiara and KD or to the other "liberal" posters who disagreed with you.
posted on November 15, 2006 02:37:14 PM new
I said I made a mistake yesterday, Linda. Now what more do you want or are you going to howl forever about that also?
Should I be banned from posting here? Should the terrorists kill me for it? Maybe Bush can bomb Canada? After all, don't you approve of annihilating most that have a difference of opinion?
posted on November 15, 2006 02:57:12 PM new
helen and kiara this is going to be the LAST time I address either of you on a personal level.
You BOTH continue to lie...and IF I don't take the time to prove you lied...then you continue to deny it.
I'm sick of your childish game playing.
helen...again you aren't being truthful when you say you avoided me like the plague. You OFTEN brought my posts from her over there to stir up the crap.
You WELCOMED almost all the lies that mingotree stated over there....supporting her garbage.
That you have a TREMENDOUS memory problem is YOUR concern....but when you include me in your lies I get angry.
Try to stop doing that. Restrain yourself IF at all possible and just stick to ADDRESSING the thread topic rather than lying about me.
Kiara same thing goes for you. You now say you apologized. BUT had I not taken the TIME.....MY time.....which I'd much rather NOT spend on you...then you'd still be claiming it was true.....just as you have with EVERY lie that you told years ago, and still CONTINUE to repeat.
It's old...it's more than juvenile and it's certainly NOT related in ANY thread to it's topic.
GROW UP.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
posted on November 15, 2006 03:08:24 PM new
I said last evening I made a mistake but it wasn't good enough for you then either, Lindak. You just want to throw tantrums and play victim forever and you're telling us to grow up?
helen and kiara this is going to be the LAST time I address either of you on a personal level.
Let's see, you've been promising that for how many years now, Linda? You are fascinated by us and you just can't help yourself and you know it.
posted on November 15, 2006 03:19:43 PM new
It must be tough to be a member of a board in which you believe everyone is a liar. So why do you remain here? Surely the presence of classic and an occasional chant by stonecold is not sufficiently stimulating to maintain your interest here.
posted on November 15, 2006 03:20:20 PM new
This article with links is also on jihadwatch.org
Islamic Thinkers Society spokesman calls for Sharia law in America on Glenn Beck Show
Tune in to Glenn Beck's radio show right now and you will hear "Muhammad" from the New York-based Islamic Thinkers Society [link provided], which has threatened my life in the past (calls for Allah to torture someone are calls for his followers to do so), calling for Sharia law in the U.S.
Or catch one of the replays of Beck. It's a very revealing interview.
Muhammad sidestepped Beck's question about whether he would be allowed to listen to music on the radio, but he avowed that women would not be allowed to leave the house without a male escort, and without a head covering.
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
posted on November 15, 2006 03:38:36 PM new
And while you're keeping your promise to never address me again on a personal level, lindak....... perhaps you can also bring yourself to refrain from ranting about me on other boards. Thanks!
posted on November 15, 2006 07:15:05 PM new
HEADS UP - Try to find the time to watch this CNN program.
=========
Glenn Beck: 'Islamic Extremism' Greatest Threat to U.S.
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Nov. 15, 2006
WASHINGTON -- CNN TV host Glenn Beck tells NewsMax that he believes "Islamic extremism is the biggest threat to our way of life since World War Two and we'll never be able to fight it – if we can't see it."
American viewers are going to see - up-close-and-personal - the ugly face of extremism on Wednesday evening, when Beck will air on his cable show a special ominously called "Exposed: The Extremist Agenda."
For the first time, according to the show's producers, Americans will be able to see actual videos from Middle East television and other sources that show just how dangerous the "radical Muslims" really are
.
"It's unbelievable footage – very eye-opening, and it's exclusive," say producers.
Beck notes that his passion for the project is grounded in his strong opinion that "political correctness is going to kill us" because people are too afraid to show such explicit video and talk about it for fear of repercussions.
"The Glenn Beck Program," which airs every day on CNN Headline News at 7 p.m. and replays at 9 p.m. and midnight on Headline News, usually gives viewers what is advertised as an unconventional look at the news of the day, featuring Beck's "unique and often amusing perspective on top stories from world events and politics to pop culture and everyday hassles."
The special may be short on amusement this time out - as viewers see segments showing children being brainwashed and indoctrinated in a culture of hate; raw footage of anti-Israel and U.S. propaganda; suicide bombers being psyched-up for martyrdom; the very real and imminent threat spilling forth from Iran; a profile of just how American Muslims feel; and, finally, a look at perhaps the best and last chance for change from within.
According to Beck, the videos being featured come from television in the Middle East. Most were originally broadcast in Arabic or Farsi, requiring "quite a bit of time involved to not only select the clips but also to confirm the translations and the context."
So why hasn't this important film been shown before - at least in this country? asks NewsMax.
"Americans don't seem to take this threat seriously," explains Beck. "Here are these extremists, telling us clearly and plainly what they want to do, and we won't pay attention. That's what's so frustrating. We're hoping that by finally showing some of this video on a primetime television show, people might finally understand what we're really fighting."
Beck notes that another reason for the lack of coverage is good old-fashioned political correctness.
"A movie called 'Obsession' was released a few months ago showing many of these same clips and it could not get a U.S. distributor.
People just don't want to touch the subject for fear of repercussions and being branded as racists," Beck tells NewsMax.
In the U.S./Israeli propaganda segment, the no-holds-barred look inside the beast includes absurd charges that Coca Cola is investing billions to "topple" Iran, and that PEPSI stands for "Pay Every Penny Save Israel."
"Propaganda is their most powerful weapon," says Beck, who adds that this segment includes commentary from former PLO terrorist Walid Shoebat.
In a segment called "American Muslims Where Are You?" Beck and his guests explore what he perceives as the dearth of Muslim leaders here in the U.S. standing up and denouncing terrorist attacks.
Dr. Aslam Abdullah, who wrote a recent column titled, "We're Muslim-Americans, Kill Us Too," joins Beck to talk about why he feels virtually alone in saying such things.
Children, the Raw Material of Hate
Clips from Saudi TV and Iqra TV show propaganda aimed at brainwashing children.
In accompanying commentary, Shoebat sheds light on what he was taught as a child growing up in an extremist environment.
As to whether the clips are offensively graphic in any way, Beck says: "No, everyone already knows about the beheadings and stonings; there's no need to revisit that. We focus on the words of hate.
"There is one particular video where a young girl -- about three years old -- is being interviewed for a TV show and brings up the belief that Jews are 'apes and pigs.' How does a three-year-old know to say that? She wasn't born thinking that; she was taught it. And that's a big part of the problem."
Beck explains the format of the special to NewsMax: "The show is completely unique. For most of the segments, Glenn will open with a brief monologue and then we'll go into the package showing the translated clips with guest commentary weaved in.
Depending on the topic, there may be another guest after the package. But make no mistake, the clips are the star of the show."
As for the segment "The Two Faces of Iran," Beck says, "If you want to know what President Ahmadinejad really thinks, don't listen to him at the U.N. or with Anderson Cooper. Listen to him at home, in front of his own people.
"We cut between his speeches here and the ones at home. Here he's talking about love and compassion, while at home he's talking about literally branding our forehands, Islam conquering all the mountaintops in the world, and leading chants of 'Death to America.'"
In a recent program, Beck warned that what is already happening in Europe is just a foretaste of what is in store for us in the U.S.: "In their effort to never offend anyone and to promote everybody's culture as just as great as everybody else's, Europe is now finding itself surrounded by a deadly enemy that is embedded in their own ranks.
Paris is literally on fire, and soon, London and Moscow will follow.
"It may be only a matter of time before it happens in Detroit, New York and Chicago. We could be on the verge of a global religious civil war. And we must pay attention."
Beck says that he fully understands that the grim message of his special is not what most people want to hear – "We don't want to wake up every day and worry about extremists."
Most days, Beck's message is serious but with comedy mixed in because "a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down." But in this case, he says, what he saw was too important to ignore – or to sugarcoat.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:
What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: [b]Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack[b].
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 15, 2006 07:21 PM ]
posted on November 15, 2006 08:10:48 PM new
I haven't defended anyone in this thread Linda. I've asked you for a clarification that you refuse to give. You don't have the courage of your convictions. If you did, you'd state them directly in your own words, rather than obliquely in the copied words of others.
____________________________________________
May 1, 2003, America brings "democracy" to Iraq. November 7, 2006, Iraq brings democracy to America.
posted on November 16, 2006 03:10:00 PM new
Linda, why are you so reluctant to answer a simple question. If you feel that your position may be wrong, don't be afraid to say so.
It seems to me that you have very little empathy -- understanding of another's situation or feelings and motives. Maybe reading a few good books about life in other countries could help you see that people are the same all over the world and religions generally have the same good motives. It's extremist governments that usually generate the kind of hate and terrorism that you want to attribute to religion.
A currently popular book that may be of some benefit to you is Suite Francaise by Irene Nemirovsky.
posted on November 16, 2006 04:23:30 PM new
A wise person said
Linduh won't answer the question because she is afraid to expose herself to herself. We already know where she stands, but she simply won't admit it to herself.
........ which applies to many questions asked of her.
The liberal morons have the answer right in front of them and they simply choose to ignore it. Then they cry, why won't you answer with lies and deception like all the demomorons.
.
.
.
"Unfortunately there are levels of Stupid that just can't be cured!!" The new Demomoron motto.
posted on November 17, 2006 12:04:20 PM new
My question hasn't been answered stonecold. It won't be either. Maybe you'd like to answer it??
____________________________________________
May 1, 2003, America brings "democracy" to Iraq. November 7, 2006, Iraq brings democracy to America.
posted on November 18, 2006 10:49:10 AM new
They're NOT calling for a religious war/holy war?
I beg to differ.
from today's WA Times....
Professor: Muslim extremists on campuses
By Gerry Harrington
Nov. 18, 2006 at 12:25PM
LONDON, Nov. 18 (UPI) — Britain drastically underestimates the threat posed by Islamic extremists "grooming" students at British universities, a British academic warns.
Anthony Glees, director of Brunel University's center for intelligence and Security Studies, said more than 25 British campuses had been infiltrated by militants recruiting for religious holy war -- far greater than the number officially acknowledged, London's Telegraph reported Saturday.
Glees suggested extra investment in campus security and said academics should interview undergraduates to ensure that they were bona fide students.
His comments came as Britain's education department urged lecturers to be on the lookout for impressionable youngsters who could fall under the influence of radical preachers.
The department warned of "serious, but not widespread, Islamic extremist activity in higher-education institutions." It asked lecturers to investigate Muslim preachers invited to campuses, ensure that "hate literature" was not distributed among students and to report suspicious behavior to police.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on November 18, 2006 09:58:47 PM new
Of course some are, nobody disputes that. That wasn't the question, was it?
____________________________________________
May 1, 2003, America brings "democracy" to Iraq. November 7, 2006, Iraq brings democracy to America.
posted on November 19, 2006 06:44:34 AM new
LOL....you're behaving like the 5th-6th graders that you say you teach, profe.
Since I never said 'ALL', but rather you liberals here chose to argue that I had....LOL....then you are now admitting we've spent PAGES with the game players here trying to get me to argue something I NEVER said.
But....that's how game players act/are.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on November 19, 2006 07:10:37 AM new
And while MSM continues to be politically correct, so as not to 'offend' anyone....they keep American's from being aware just how often this nonsense takes place, here in America too.
What are they afraid of...why do they cover for all these radical actions/behaviors...that's not informing the public...that's keeping their actions from everyone - keeping Americans in the dark.
Teacher resigns over controversial assignment. Teaching American school children HIS religious/political belief system??? Sure appear that way to me also.
SMITHFIELD, N.C. -- A Spanish teacher at Smithfield-Selma Senior High School resigned this week after handing out an assignment that some students and parents said teaches hate.
Khalid Chahhou, who was in his first year of teaching in Johnston County, gave students a worksheet in which they were to translate words and find them within a word-search puzzle.
Some students started uncovering strange words in the process.
"There were words like 'kill,' then I saw it said 'destroy America,'" Eric Herrera said.
As they read on, students found the puzzle contained a paragraph that contained the following phrases:
"Sharon killed a lot of innocent people," a possible reference to former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
"Palestine is not a terrorist group."
"Allah help destroy this body of evil making humanity miserable."
"It was kind of scary at first to think about, you know, your own teacher in your own school that is teaching you," Herrera said.
School administrators said they confronted Chahhou about an unidentified concern Wednesday and he resigned.
"The situation surrounding the resignation has prompted us to call the proper authorities," said Crystal Roberts, the spokeswoman for Johnston County Schools.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 19, 2006 07:20 AM ]
posted on November 19, 2006 08:11:15 AM newSince I never said 'ALL', but rather you liberals here chose to argue that I had....LOL....then you are now admitting we've spent PAGES with the game players here trying to get me to argue something I NEVER said.
I never claimed you said all Muslims Linda. I said your wording made it seem to me that you felt that way, and asked you to clarify. I also asked you if you did feel that way, wouldn't it then logically follow that Muslims should be purged from the U.S.
Since then, you've refused to clarify with a simple answer to the question and instead have posted pages of copy/pastes, most of which seem designed to give evidence of the fact that Muslim extremists are fighting a religious war through terror and other means. Gee, What Big News. Nobody here will disagree with the fact that there are Muslim extremists around the globe who believe they are fighting a holy war against all Christians and Jews and anybody else they deem to be wicked. But that wasn't my question to you.
Just as the muslim faith believes this is a RELIGIOUS war...
This statement is worded in such a way as to possibly mean you think that ALL Muslims believe this way. Your answer of "I never said ALL", doesn't quite cut it as far as I'm concerned. Too much wiggle room there. If you feel that way, and I think you do, it's OK. I don't understand why you'd spend page after page giving evidence for an opinion you hold while denying that you hold that opinion at the same time. Seems like a waste of time to me, not to mention being pretty chicken$h!t.
____________________________________________
May 1, 2003, America brings "democracy" to Iraq. November 7, 2006, Iraq brings democracy to America.
posted on November 19, 2006 11:15:07 AM new
Well, I guess you could say: "In 1941 not ALL Japanese wanted war".
With diligent research and 4-5000 posts you could probably come close to nailing the percentage.
What would it matter? Just as the percentages don't change the fact that Islam is THE biggest threat to the globe. It doesn't matter to the Christian teenagers in Indonesia that are missing heads whether or not ALL Indonesian Muslims are sharpening swords.
This topic is 6 pages long: 1new2new3new4new5new6new
