posted on December 30, 2006 09:52:33 AM
Saddam may have done some barbaric things but hanging him is equally barbaric as are all the events leading up to this. It just proves to me how primitive much of mankind really is and how they haven't really learned anything.
posted on December 30, 2006 10:56:41 AM
I agree, kiara. Dancing in the street over an execution by hanging is just as barbaric as the act itself. Is this all that Bush can accomplish?
posted on December 30, 2006 11:02:26 AM
Funny I sure don't remember helen get this upset about the 'dancing in the streets' when the muslims were doing just that following 9-11. But then, I except that from her.
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Bear said: "And you and your kind would have said the same thing about WW1, WW2 & Korea."
AMEN!!!!!
Bear asks: "What about "Freedom isn't Free" dont you understand."
posted on December 30, 2006 12:24:07 PM
Saddam's murder was the political agenda of George Bush...nothing more. His trial was a sham, engineered to exclude any evidence that the U.S. was complicit in providing the chemicals that he was accused of using.
Already almost 3,000 American soldiers have been killed in service to the failed Bush administration agenda. I wonder how many other American soldiers and innocent iraq citizens will be sacrificed before America wakes up and ends this fiasco.
posted on December 30, 2006 01:11:43 PMFunny I sure don't remember helen get this upset about the 'dancing in the streets' when the muslims were doing just that following 9-11. But then, I except that from her.
Crybaby_K is glad that the person who had nothing to do with the 9/11 is hanged, but does not care that the person that is mainly responsible for the attacks is still free. The hanging of Saddam is just another dog and pony show for the Bush administration in attempt to show he is trying to track down the terrorists. Bush had planned for this war even before we was elected to office in 2000. Now that Saddam is dead, he has nothing else to achieve. His so called attempt to bring Democracy to Iraq and the Middle East is a failure. He called South Korea and Iran the axis of evil and what happened, both countries now have nuclear weapons.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2006 02:21:12 PM
I really feel sorry for you and your ilk, helen. Those who can read that list of saddam atrocities and still say the things you do.
You aren't only a Bush hater...you hate America too, imo. The American that has ALWAYS fought against evil....and evil doers. Those YOU support....and blame your own Nation for. tsk tsk tsk
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I read this today...and it remind me so of you, helen. Just exactly how you are when you're supporting American's enemies....when you're DEFENDING people like saddam. tsk tsk tsk
How The Left Learned To Stop Worrying and Love Terrorism
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:46 am Post subject:
How The Left Learned To Stop Worrying and Love Terrorism
How The Left Learned To Stop Worrying and Love Terrorism
Major T.J. 'King' Kong from Dr. Strangelove rides again, personified by the 21st century crop of useful leftist idiots.
Like the most histrionic of narcissists they can't help drawing attention to themselves and the fact that they operate on about the same moral level as a Saddam Hussein.
Without a care in the world--except, of course, for the villainy of the imaginary BushHitler--a product of their fevered imaginations--they are pleased to laugh and whoop it up as they ride their bomb down to the ultimate destruction of civilization.
Isn't it ironic that in the movie, Slim Pickens' character was mocked because he enthusiastically exemplified all the right-wing ideologues of the day, supposedly hellbent on destroying the oppressive evil that was communism--real evil that resulted in the deaths of millions.
Now, fast-forward to today. The political left is hellbent on destroying our own country and its values by supporting and enabling the new generation of oppressors, and they are the ones who sit atop the weapon of mass destruction aimed at the heart of civilization.
They are so twisted and warped, that many don't even understand the nature of the suicide/homicide mission they have been sent on by the intellectual elites that control their thinking.
On the contrary, just as all the brainwashed, fanatical suicide bombers that came before them, they believe that their actions are for the 'greater good'.
That is why they are visibly and vocally outraged at the execution of Saddam Hussein for crimes against humanity; but have little to say about the victims of Saddam.
Truth be told, they never have anything to say about real victims, unless it serves their own narcissistic agenda.
Take a look at one of the most egregious useful idiots of all time who leads the pack in blaming--who else?--America and Bush for Saddam.
Just browse the left blogosphere to see how their ideology easily deflects them from having to confront real evil in the real world. (see Radio Equalizer for a roundup of some of the left's dismay--but there is plenty out there he hasn't got around to listing).
Siggy says it best:
The pattern is clear, unmistakable and oft repeated. As the left screams about the execution of Saddam, they only highlight the truth that they don't really give damn about the victims of evil and never have....
There are no voices from the left for the victims of the Janjaweed any more than there were voices from the left that spoke out for the victims of Saddam. There are no voices from the left decrying the Iranian mullahs repressive regime and their support for terror. There are no voices castigating the Saudis and their bigotry and more than there were voices from the left that spoke out about Taliban bestial behavior in Afghanistan.
The fear, intimidation and murder that is a hallmark of the Allawite regime of Assad clan is ignored as is the pornographic behavior of the Palestinians, masquerading as a civilized society that is equivalent to the society the Israelis have built.
The true (im)moral center of the left is exposed every time the perpetrators of the evil or genocide are brought to justice.
Siggy also quotes a post of mine that says in part:
One of the definitions of justice is "conforming to truth, fact, or reason" and, as a psychiatrist, I like to think of psychological insight as a sort of divine justice that implacably forces an individual to become aware of even the darkest parts of his or her soul.
This is why--by refusing to 'conform to truth, fact, or reason'--the left, for all their babbling about "social justice", haven't a clue about the real meaning of the word; for all their claims of being "reality-based", they are living in a delusion; and for all their self-serving preening and that they are "compassionate and caring", they are exactly the opposite.
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"Freedom really ain't free. It's just some people take a pass and ride it out on the blood and sacrifice of others." Kimmymac
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 30, 2006 02:28 PM ]
posted on December 30, 2006 02:29:35 PMBy that same opinion, you shouldnt have an opinion in the matter of what the US does, Canada wasnt attacked.
Bear, you have to understand that when the US starts a war like this there are consequences for other nations also. This does not affect just the US.
As I've said before, when inept leaders like Bush start a useless war and beg other nations to participate or when people like Condi make visits to Canada begging for money to support a useless war like the one Bush started, everyone has a right to an opinion, even me.
Edited to add that no, Canada was not attacked by Iraq but then neither was the US.
posted on December 30, 2006 02:31:44 PM
linduh, what a load of claptrap!
And YOU tsk tsk tsk a quote from Saddam???
From linduh's leading authority on liberals:
""""from a ChronWatch Reader Forum Forum Index -> Topics of the Day
View previous topic :: View next topic AuthorMessageAristotle The Hun
Esteemed ChronWatch Old-Timer
How The Left Learned To Stop Worrying and Love Terrorism
Major T.J. 'King' Kong from Dr. Strangelove rides again"""
Is that from one of the chat rooms you HAVEN'T been kicked out of yet????
posted on December 30, 2006 02:41:05 PM
Truth hurts huh? lol
It's YOU HELEN. And each and everytime I have accused you of being pro-saddam you have denied it.
But your posts in this thread alone VERIFY exactly what that blogger described you radical, out-of-touch- with-reality liberals/progressive/socialists/further left do.
Always defending OR excusing the actions of our enemies...excusing the actions of EVIL doers...just like saddam....while you and kiara and others just like you TOTALLY avoid/overlook what they've done to MILLIONS of innocent people.
People you don't care about....just pretend to, while you put the blame on those who fight for the freedom of these oppressed people. tsk tsk
I just enjoyed it that I found someone who could articulate your actions so much better than I've ever been able to.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 30, 2006 02:45:43 PM
Looks like mingo not only wants the title for Queen LIAR here...but now also wants the title of QUEEN exaggerator. LOL
Let's see....one board out of how many all over the internet? Oh that's right.....DISTORTION has always been mingo's MO. tsk tsk tsk
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 30, 2006 02:53:38 PM
The problem with those who just aren't reality based is that they can look at these FACTS.....
...read clintons own statements about saddam having a womd program...and all the other democrats saying THE SAME THING....during the clinton admin. AND during this one.....
...look to the FACT that the clinton administration passed the 'Liberation of Iraq Act' TO REMOVE SADDAM from power...and then ...
....be so DENSE to blame it all on this President.
Talk about distorting the FACTS....tsk tsk tsk
It's called living in denial....or a BLIND HATRED towards the one who FINALLY took action against saddam after 13 YEARS of game playing with him.
[b]Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein
Chronicle of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein[/b]:
Hussein's regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades.
Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam's actions.
Saddam had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.
1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead.
1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.
1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people.
1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages.
1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi'a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000.
At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.
2001: Amnesty International report: "Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."
Human Rights Watch: Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.
Refugees International: "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis."
Iraq's 13 million Shiite Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, faced severe restrictions on their religious practice.
FBI: Iraqi government was involved in a plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.
The Iraqi regime has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors.
From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the U.N. Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.
(Sources: Office of the White House Press Secretary: Life Under Saddam Hussein: Past Repression and Atrocities by Saddam Hussein's Regime; April 4, 2003, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/04/iraq/20030404-1.html;
Yes, helen....LOOK TO THOSE SADDAM KILLED. Say something against HIM....for ONCE in your life.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 30, 2006 02:59 PM ]
posted on December 30, 2006 02:54:32 PM
"""I just enjoyed it that I found someone who could articulate your actions so much better than I've ever been able to."""
Oh, linduh, you're being way too modest...you're able to lie extremely well!!!
You are lying about Helen, I have never seen her say the things you say she did...ever!!!!
Again your source for your last piece of slobbering garbage is a huge laugh!!!!!
posted on December 30, 2006 02:55:30 PMwhile you and kiara and others just like you TOTALLY avoid/overlook what they've done to MILLIONS of innocent people.
Linda_K, don't speak for me, you ignoramus. I realize you have a comprehension problem and only focus on far right propaganda sites for your info but if you actually read the opinions of others here you would perhaps see that I stated that Saddam had done barbaric things. And I think it was just as barbaric to hang him.
It's barbaric for the insurgents to do some of the things they've done too and I've never stated otherwise nor have I ever overlooked it. So leave my name out of your accusations and silly rants unless you have actual links to words by me to support your claims. Thank you.
posted on December 30, 2006 03:07:21 PM
You and others just like you kiara BELONG in that same catagory, imo.
Just like your STUPID post....."Saddam may have done some barbaric things."
Facts obviously aren't important to you either. MAY HAVE???? No, 'may' about it. Record HISTORY, kiara...history that you are so quick to overlook....while you put the blame on a President that did what most Americans...elected and citizens...agreed with doing. SAID needed to be done....
And you can't fact the FACTS that it wasn't an American court that convicted him NOR that gave him his penalty.
You too...live in denial of most FACTS.
"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
posted on December 30, 2006 03:18:59 PM
Linda_K, if you spent part of your time reading opposing opinions and trying to absorb them and perhaps questioning the poster who wrote them instead of trying to speak for them from what the voices in your head chant at you, then you may be filled with less anger towards those who don't agree with you.
As it stands, you're just a daily joke here trying to speak for everyone else while you label them and try to force your views on them.
Please leave my name out of your angry rants because you haven't taken time to ever read about what I believe in and obviously do not know anything about it so you only make yourself look ignorant. Thank you.
You may have seen the photo of Rumsfeld shaking the hand of Saddam during the period when the U.S. was giving help to Saddam in the form of CIA connections and intelligence.
Juan Cole has compiled a short history of his association with the United States here....
posted on December 30, 2006 03:25:06 PM
I am not speaking FOR you kiara...I am commenting about how I see you, helen and other radical lefties when you don't EVER make mention of who's dancing in the streets in celebration of the US being attacked....nope...not a word. That apparently is just fine.
But let some Iraqi's be thankful an evil man who murdered MILLIONS of innocents...tortured others....are happy and you and helen make it well know how you don't like that.
And I will point it out each and everytime I see you showing your bias. Since you continually DENY you ever do so.
Makes it so much easier than trying to find all your anti-war crap from the past.
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And helen proves my point again. Blame American first....but don't EVER put the blame on saddam nor any enemy of America - NEVER. tsk tsk tsk
The true (im)moral center of the left is exposed every time the perpetrators of the evil or genocide are brought to justice.
Boy it THAT the truth.
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"While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation": "What would a Democrat president have done at that point?"
"Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack."
Ann Coulter
[ edited by Linda_K on Dec 30, 2006 03:28 PM ]
posted on December 30, 2006 03:49:08 PMMakes it so much easier than trying to find all your anti-war crap from the past.
Of course it does make it easier for you to lie about my beliefs instead of searching things I've said to support your claims since I've never posted anti-war crap anywhere on the internet except for saying here that I didn't agree with the war in Iraq.
Linda_K, if I have something to say I will post it. Unlike you, I don't find it necessary nor do I have the time to post my beliefs on almost every issue and world event so please accept that there are those who have different styles of posting. Thank you.
posted on December 30, 2006 05:01:11 PMand helen proves my point again. Blame American first....but don't EVER put the blame on saddam nor any enemy of America - NEVER. tsk tsk tsk
According to Linda the US can never do anything wrong so it is always the fault of other countries and NEVER the fault of the US. So much for Linda being able "to even consider the 'other' side of this issue". WHAT A HYPOCRITE.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2006 05:16:15 PMBear asks: "What about "Freedom isn't Free" dont you understand."
Sadly, they don't get the concept AT ALL.
Spoken from someone who hasn't made any sacrifices. What would you be willing to sacrifice in order to have your freeoms Linda?
No one has Ever said Freedom Isn't Free.
The appropriate question is who should pay the price for the freedom of Someone Else from Somewhere Else.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
posted on December 30, 2006 08:27:46 PM
Helen, that was interesting reading on Juan Cole's site and I didn't realize the US association with Saddam went back that far.
I've always tried to keep up with the Baghdad Burning site and by reading Cole's site I was reminded to check it again and she has posted her thoughts on the current situation in Iraq and the situation with Saddam.
posted on December 31, 2006 06:26:57 AM
Riverbend is very interesting, Kiara! It's amost unimaginable what the day in the life of an average Iraqi must be like. She describes it so well.
Now, they are burying people in mass graves or football fields... again.
posted on December 31, 2006 07:21:15 AM
Her country has been ruined for no reason. All along she's recorded the problems with no electricity, waiting in line for gas, the children that no longer go to school, the deaths of loved ones and how women have lost their rights and how everyone lives in constant fear.
She says some things very well.
I'm certain only raving idiots still believe this war and occupation were about WMD or an actual fear of Saddam.
