Julesy
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:20:17 PM
Hi snarky --
If you want to use the small envelope (6" x 10" ) for the $4 flat rate, you might have a problem. Those envelopes are pretty small and don't have much give to them.
I imagine though, if your seller can get the book inside the small envelope, they would probably have to accept it. If you chose to go this route, I would tell the seller to tape it up like Fort Knox.
[ edited by Julesy on Jan 8, 2001 07:20 PM ]
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atticques00
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:21:17 PM
Yes, Spaz you are right, I don't question anyone's sexuality here. And I don't like to joust on a message board with someone who wears hard shoes with a big buckles. Why to pick on someone like that would be like denying my own grandmother a spoonful of applesauce!
But, if we step out of the muckhole my mind wallows in occaisionally, we find that I have added some real fodder for discussion here. While HCQ, who most likely has a "churchlady" smirk affixed to her face 24/7, has added nothing.
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spazmodeus
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:22:05 PM
Is Fort Knox really taped up?
Hiya Julesy 
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birdwatcher-07
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:24:24 PM
dman3, parcel post is zone-dependent at all weights. So 4 pounds to California from where I live is $5.92, as opposed to $6.35. A savings, yes, but not the nearly $3.00 difference your example quotes. And is it worth it to have my California customers getting anxious about their parcel post package taking so long? Parcel Post can be a wonderful cost-saver, but it can also take weeks to arrive. Yeah, so can Priority, but it usually doesn't.
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Julesy
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:27:16 PM
I'm metaphor-impaired. 
Happy New Year, btw, Spaz!
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annjac
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:31:33 PM
Not only did they raise all rates but the Post Office eliminated certain weight categories. Airmail letters used to be in two weight categories 1/2 oz (2 pages) and 1 oz. Now there is only the 1 oz so mailing a letter to the three countries I write to has just gone up 45% not because of a direct rate increase but by the elimination of weight ranges. Sneaky.
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spazmodeus
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:43:15 PM
Everybody wants a piece of the e-commerce pie. The post office knows we rely on them, so they jack up the rates. I remember a couple years ago, the phone companies were trying to jack up rates for basic phone service for lines connected to the internet; It bugged them that internet service providers were making money on subscribers while the phone company lines, which carried the connections, weren't earning anything beyond the basic flat service rate.
On another thread, people are complaining about Goodwill and Salvation Army stores boosting prices all of a sudden. That's because they know a lot of the stuff is being sold on the internet for good prices and now and they want a piece of the action too.
Over the past couple years, it's seemed as though all these services that supply us suddenly got jealous and greedy and decided that we owe them more for their services -- even though they are not providing anything beyond the basic service they've always provided. It's a case of greed, greed, greed. And we're an easy target because our businesses depend on these support services. This forces us to work harder and longer, while these parasitic "partners" of ours just kick back and suck up our profits.
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Shoshanah
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posted on January 8, 2001 07:52:17 PM
atticques00....Do what some do when they do not like a poster's haughty style: hit the ignore button. It does wonders!...
Gosh Shosh!
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/rifkah/
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dman3
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posted on January 8, 2001 08:00:25 PM
Yea parcel post goes buy zones the rate I gave you was for shipping Inside 900 to 1000 mile away of where I live.
I use a flat rate that is set to cover USPS parcel post most any where buyers can add the difference for priority if they want to choose that most just go for the lower rate.
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
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HJW
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posted on January 8, 2001 08:15:52 PM
atticques00
What a masterpiece!
I nearly fell off my chair laughing...
and spazmodeus,
am I ashamed? Hell no.
In fact, everybody in my house is laughing!
Helen
[ edited by HJW on Jan 8, 2001 08:24 PM ]
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cardmall
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posted on January 8, 2001 09:29:38 PM
I also find annoying the "it's only a penny" attitude - Ha!
Priority mail 2 pounds is now about 25% higher
A letter to Mexico costs 50% more
A letter to Canada or elsewhere costs 33% more.
That is 20 cents more for Mexico, 12 cents more for Canada, and 20 cents more for elsewhere. The international rate increase is outrageous. The post office does not need to get approval for that raise, apparently they can set the international rate to whatever they please. For domestic rate increases, they have to get that approved.
Insurance is a joke too. I remember when I used to insure anything over $15. Now, It needs to be over $100 to justify the expense.
For some items, I do see a decrease in bidding. As a buyer, I always factor postage into the cost, and if it costs significantly more to ship, I will probably either bid to a certain amount, or not bid at all. Especially if the seller wants $8 shipping & handling & insurance for a 2 pound package that has a value of $20
Alan
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Lisa_B
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posted on January 8, 2001 10:34:07 PM
In retrospect, it's a shame eBay decided to partner with "Mailboxes Etc." when they could have waited a tad longer. This would have been a great time for them to partner with a company that could offer competitive mailing rates.
I've sold on eBay for several years and this holiday season was the worst postal service I can remember. And get a load of those new priority boxes -- cheapo cheapo! Like using cereal boxes for mailing. (Yeah, that's the ticket . . . )
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MichelleG
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posted on January 8, 2001 10:42:18 PM
atticques00
The post you made earlier today directed towards HartCottageQuilts is very insulting and violates the Community Guidelines.
I am issuing an informal warning and strongly suggest you review the Community Guidelines before posting again. Pay particular attention to the section dealing with common courtesy and basic etiquette - to continue posting in this manner will ultimately result in the suspension of your posting privileges.
HCQ & Everyone
Please accept our apologies for letting this one slip through unnoticed until now.
MichelleG
Moderator
*edited for spelling
[ edited by MichelleG on Jan 9, 2001 03:02 PM ]
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spazmodeus
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posted on January 8, 2001 10:55:34 PM
All things being equal, Michelle, I find it absurd that you issue an informal for something as egregious and vulgar as this yet automatically bypassed the formal warning and suspended pareau the way you did two weeks ago.
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long_gone
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posted on January 8, 2001 11:02:41 PM
Greetings Earthlings
I read the post above about the doubled fee to Ontario. I have a few packages to go out that were quoted at the old rates and now I must eat the difference in new cost (I didn't take into account slow payers when I estimated that they would ship before the new year). Anyway, one item is a -1lb package to Ontario. The cost [old rates] I quoted them , as taken from the USPS web page International Rate Calculator was $3.59. I forget whether it was small packet or parcel post. I see, and this was a surprise to me, that they have renamed Parcel Post and Small Packet. But most surprising is that I see that it will now only cost me $2.70 to mail the same package by what they are now calling [used to be called Small Packet Surface] Global Economy Letter Post (surface) with an ETA of 4-7 days. Sending it Air instead of surface is $3.75 but the ETA is the same.
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HJW
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posted on January 9, 2001 05:45:12 AM
spazmodeus
We all have a great sense of humor...guess I'm just not as sensitive as
you are.
You use the words misogynist, visceral, female genitalia.
Have you considered the words combative, intrusive, acerbic?
Helen
edited to correct spelling.
[ edited by HJW on Jan 9, 2001 05:50 AM ]
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HartCottageQuilts
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posted on January 9, 2001 05:48:29 AM
No apology necessary, michelle. Your delay gave us a chance to have a good laugh over it here at Hart Cottage and to share it with friends.
Personally, I find pottymouth a high compliment. It's a clear indication the person resorting to it realizes he can't intelligently argue the actual matter at hand.
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HJW
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posted on January 9, 2001 05:59:42 AM
See, Spaz...we just need to toughen up and
laugh a lot! It will do you good.
Helen
About shipping...I wonder if shipping to
Canada will be a problem with the new rates.
I generally sell books and it appears that
shipping cost will excede the price of the
book!
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keziak
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posted on January 9, 2001 06:09:23 AM
spaz - you are right, and I'm sorry for laughing at a post at your expense, HCQ.
I did think the overall post was written in a funny way, but I wouldn't like anyone theorizing on the nature of my...well...whatever...either.
keziak
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birdwatcher-07
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posted on January 9, 2001 06:27:44 AM
Sometimes we reap what we sow, folks. We shouldn't be surprised when it happens. As for me, I just figured out how to use the "ignore" feature. You click on the underscored user's name in the zone outside their message, and you'll see an option you can click to ignore all of that person's postings. Much better than getting one's blood pressure up about negative comments by people who don't seem to recognize how negative they are.
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avaloncourt
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posted on January 9, 2001 06:29:47 AM
It's been a while since I've been in here to read this thread and was disgusted at the comments directed at HCQ. Thank you MichelleG for interjecting your comment.
As for postage and all things evil... Did some classes of Air Mail go down in price? I priced a shipment on Saturday on the rate calculator for Global Express. On Sunday I repriced it when the rates changed and the shipment was 4 dollars lower. I commented on it yesterday to the clerk and he said it must have as the insurance was definitely lower and the remainder of the reduction could only be in the postage cost.
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HJW
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posted on January 9, 2001 07:07:56 AM
I want to know that too.
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vargas
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posted on January 9, 2001 07:14:31 AM
I wanted to know too. So I did a little web search and found it in this episode of "South Park."
http://www.thehellhole.com/scripts/317.htm
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HJW
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posted on January 9, 2001 07:37:27 AM
It's probably some kind of pornographic
nonsense which would not be appropriate to
define on this thread.
Helen
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pattaylor
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posted on January 9, 2001 08:11:19 AM
Ahem!
Everyone, back on topic please. Thanks for your cooperation.
Pat
[email protected]
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VIDPRO2
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posted on January 9, 2001 08:21:32 AM
There's a chart that shows comparisons between USPS Priority and UPS Ground. It goes up to 20 lbs and is not designed to be a reference, but it does give a good idea of when you might want to consider using UPS to lower the cost of shipping.
http://www.auctionbytes.com/Yellow_Pages/postrates/postrates.html
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lkuzyk
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:50:39 AM
I think if they are going to raise rates they can at least improve service. Example: went to the post office today - 5 things to mail; 1 clerk; over 30 people in line; over 45 minute wait. Not happy.
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barrelracer
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posted on January 9, 2001 09:58:58 AM
UPS is increasing their rates. So is Fed Ex.
~Not barrelracer on ebay, don't pick on them!~
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kudzurose
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posted on January 9, 2001 10:43:54 AM
lkuzyk - I was in my local PO on day when there were long lines, and I commented on it to the clerk (who I have gotten to know rather well from going in so much). He looked around to make sure no one could overhear, and muttered to me that it's because the Postmaster gets a big bonus at the end of the year if he manages to get the mail out on time with a minimum number of employees. If he hires more people, it cuts into his bonus. I don't know if it's true or not, but it makes sense.
[ edited by kudzurose on Jan 9, 2001 10:57 AM ]
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DianaAW
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posted on January 9, 2001 11:35:29 AM
Hello everybody,
I've read the post by atticques00, and I do agree with Michelle that an informal warning was warranted.
We have deleted the post because of the inappropriateness of the comment made (sorry, folks - I know you got a kick out out of the post in it's entirety, but really!) We have also deleted any follow-up posts referencing the comment. Since it did not appear to me to be directed specifically at anyone in particular, we are just going to strongly urge atticques00 to carefully review the CGs.
spazmodeus, please note that it is entirely possible that the moderator(s) on duty might not have been aware of the level of inappropriateness of the comment.
This thread has strayed way off topic - we urge you to keep on topic so that we don't have to lock it up.
Thanks!
Diana
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