mballai
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posted on February 22, 2001 02:37:39 PM new
All
The packaging was bad, that was I why left negative feedback. No remedial effort was necessary, requested or desired.
Please read the First Amendment if you have any other questions.
ExecutiveGirl
I was not at fault;this seller was. I no longer really care if someone negs me, but the chances of it happening are very unlikely as I deliver as promised.
Moderator:
You can lock this threadas all the arrows I'm likely to receive have already been shot.
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powderblue
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posted on February 22, 2001 02:41:38 PM new
It must be nice for you, when going to bed each night, to lay down thinking "I am the best, most perfect person God has created. Thank heaven for ME!!!!
And that last plea to the moderators was cowardly at best.
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vargas
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posted on February 22, 2001 02:43:29 PM new
mballai-
Perhaps you should consider buying all of your books from Amazon.com or Barnes & Noble.
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powderblue
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posted on February 22, 2001 02:43:35 PM new
Let me again repeat a phrase I used a little earlier:
IMAGINARY LOSS.
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powderblue
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posted on February 22, 2001 02:46:48 PM new
I-M-A-G-I-N-A-R-Y LOSS.
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tomwiii
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posted on February 22, 2001 03:07:59 PM new
Oh...please...please...please:
never bid on one of my auctions!
Why can't eBay have that NIFTY feature like Yahoo does where ya can BLOCK PITAS from bidding on & ruining one's auctions for such TRIVIAL nay, dare I say: NON-EXISTANT problems as this LOAD OF...!
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amy
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posted on February 22, 2001 03:32:43 PM new
Packaging was fine...bidder was faulty.
personally...to me negging for such a non-existant problem is just a pathetic grasp at a little power
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tomwiii
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posted on February 22, 2001 03:36:56 PM new
Amy: boy, my medication must be working! Can't believe it, but for the past 4 mos, I've found myself AGREEING with all your posts! Ah well, better living through chemicals!
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amy
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posted on February 22, 2001 03:44:41 PM new
Tomwii..not the medicines...
YOU HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!
LOL LOL LOL!!!!!!!
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joice
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posted on February 22, 2001 03:51:06 PM new
powderblue,
Your comments are insulting and I am issuing you an informal warning.
Joice
Moderator.
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joice
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:03:44 PM new
amy and tomwiii,
Your comments are personal and outside the boundaries of basic etiquette as required by the CG's. Please address the subject and not the poster.
Thanks for your cooperation,
mballai:
Since the seller has been invited to this thread, I will leave it open at least another 2 hours in case they need time to get here. If the seller is a no show, I will lock the thread at 6pm.
Joice
Moderator.
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digitalman
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:05:16 PM new
mballai
I looked over your negative feedback left and it looks like this is not your first undeserved Neg given.
You should have sent an e-mail to the seller and given them a chance to make it right before leaving a Neg.
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reddeer
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:21:17 PM new
I think this thread should be left open. My guess is the seller is reading it, and if nothing else will learn from the numerous comments posted.
[ edited by reddeer on Feb 22, 2001 04:21 PM ]
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amy
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:22:08 PM new
Sorry Joice. 
I'll try to chose my words more carefully next time.
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tomwiii
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:27:52 PM new
I think this thread should be ENSHRINED! 
Actually, this thread has me foaming and chewing-up-the-carpet!
The inference (as I understans it) is that not only do we have to worry that the items arrive in fine shape, but also the PRESENTATION of the arriving BOX!
What next???
[ edited by tomwiii on Feb 22, 2001 04:32 PM ]
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pacoferrone
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:30:55 PM new
dollars to doughnuts say that mballi, the originatorof this thread, wqould not be leaving a neg if the seller had not left feedback left. i suspect their backbone is aided by the fact that there can not be a neg left in return.......they grew a pair, but how and why?
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koto1
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:32:47 PM new
Setting aside the fact that the book supposedly had shoddy packaging, I question the claim that the seller was slow to ship. Auction ended the evening of Feb. 9th (a Friday) and evidently buyer pays that night using an online payment service. Now, seller waits until Mon or Tues (12th or 13th) of next week to ship Priority. Now, if for some reason the Priority package doesn't get delivered within 2-3 days (heaven forbid!!), now we're running into President's Day weekend, which obviously will halt mail service until Tuesday Feb 20th, the day the package was received. So I ask...was this really a case of delayed shipment, shipping so slow that it needed to be mentioned to reinforce the negative left?
It's always an adventure dealing with the public, isn't it?
"Who's tending the bar? Sniping works up a thirst"
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shaani
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:44:24 PM new
"After enduring just about all the lousy service I could handle in the last few weeks, I finally neg'd a seller for poor packaging."
So the frustration is building for a couple of weeks and this poor seller gets the brunt of it?
I also ask how fast the trigger finger would have hit the neg button if the seller hadn't left feedback yet?
It is only a hobby for the seller so he won't care how many negs he gets??
Yes, leave the thread open so everyone can read it.
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mballai
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posted on February 22, 2001 04:56:55 PM new
For the mathematically challenged:
A one pound Priority Package costs $3.50 not $3.95. Look it up
A plastic bag is .02
Two pieces of cardboard or some bubble wrap is maybe .10
Round it up a little and it's still less than $3.75.
For those sellers who still do not get it you who #*!@ and moan over every "imaginary loss" they might have had as a result of big bad eBay's crappy service: your service is fair game to the bidder too and I don't believe in playing Mr. Nice Guy if your service stinks--something should be shipped in a manner that is appropriate to the very real perils of the postal service. I spend thousands of dollars online every year. Do it right please and thank you.
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auctionqueenie
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:07:58 PM new
"Round it up a little and it's still less than $3.75."
So this seller's time of putting this package together and driving to the post office (which takes gas money and remember how much gas has been costing since last year) is not worth 25 cents???? geez
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kristie
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:11:37 PM new
Digitalman, you're right. Almost 2% of the feedback this buyer has given out have
been negative. I'll bet a good percentage of those sellers would have been glad to give a refund had they known the buyer was unhappy.
It's a shame they weren't given a chance. I package my items securely, but still hope this buyer never bids on any of my auctions.
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shaani
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:18:58 PM new
Hello mballai
These are your words from another thread you posted on this morning:
"Other than the shipping charge, fees should be invisible to a bidder. Bidders don't really care what a seller's expenses are."
So now you do care?
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tomwiii
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:26:00 PM new
getting poinshunol as Curley would say!
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mballai
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:32:12 PM new
For those who use a computer without engaging their brain:
Virtually all of my negatives are for bidders who didn't pay. I am mainly a seller. I very rarely neg a seller--I prefer to take my business elsewhere when someone's service is bad and give someone more business if it's good. However I'm not going to flinch anymore at feedback time if the service is bad and the seller has the same attitude as many of you exhibit.
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ExecutiveGirl
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:38:08 PM new
mballai:
I will ask you this again for the 3rd time.
YOU were the seller on an auction where you were left a negative and your response was:
Response: Customer never told me about problem -- unwarranted negative feedback!!!
Again, I will ask you: How can you justify that someone leaving you a NEG without contacting you first is DEAD WRONG - but it's OK for you to do that to another seller????
I repeat, this is the THIRD time I've asked you this.
(Edited to add: You've called people on this board "mathematically challenged" and said "those who use a computer without engaging their brain"... however they aren't the ones who seem to have comprehension problems...)
Did I mention this is the 3rd time I've asked this question?
[ edited by ExecutiveGirl on Feb 22, 2001 05:43 PM ]
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yankee98champs
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:44:25 PM new
I can't understand this anti-customer service attitude being displayed here.
You might do well to remember for every mballai that puts ebay on notice with his feedback comments when he isn't 100% satisfied, there are 100 who don't neg, they just don't buy on ebay anymore.
I notice these attacks on the originators attitude. Personally, business is too hard to get to start discriminating against customers based on "attitude". I don't have to like my customers, but I like their money just fine.
Packaging lousy but it got there anyway? That doesn't make it here. Remember, the pizza box with ants (earlier thread) got there too.
Will be interested to see if any of the "pile on crew" here also is posting to one of the 85 "where are the bidders" threads.
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mballai
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:45:51 PM new
shaani
I was responding to those who thought it was unreasonable to expect proper packaging at the price stated. I am pointing out that was not the case here
auctionqueenie
It's up to the seller to set a fee suitable to his expenses. I do and I really would not have minded if the charge was higher.
FWIW The item was a professional repair manual for a top quality item that retails for about $800. If you don't think someone who buys such stuff cares about quality and service, you are sadly mistaken.
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amy
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:46:22 PM new
Mballai....I'm not so sure this sellers customer service stunk.
The item arrived in good condition so therefore it WAS packaged in a manner that was appropriate to the very real perils of the postal service...that fact that it survived the postal service perils is proof of that.
Now...what it didn't live up to is your standard. Since you have a specific standard for packaging of your auction wins and will not be happy unless the item is shipped to meet your specifications, even going so far as negging a seller for inappropriate packaging when the item does arrive undamaged, then you HAVE to ask the seller BEFORE you bid how he will package the item.
There are NO rules/standards for packing items to be shipped....there are tips but no standards that sellers are expected to follow. For most buyers the results are the important thing...ie, did the item get to its new home in undamaged condition. If it does, the reasonable buyer is happy with the service they recieved and most leave positive feedback.
But, if you will only be satisified if the package is done to your specification then it behooves you to ask first, before you bid, if the seller will package it your way. Otherwise it is truley unfair to neg a seller who did what he was supposed to (got your item to you in undamaged condition) just because he wasn't a mind reader and didn't know how you expected it to be packaged.
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yankee98champs
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:52:05 PM new
"But, if you will only be satisified if the package is done to your specification then it behooves you to ask first, before you bid, if the seller will package it your way. Otherwise it is truley unfair to neg a seller who did what he was supposed to (got your item to you in undamaged condition) just because he wasn't a mind reader and didn't know how you expected it to be packaged."
Oh. Next time I want to bid on a fragile item worth hundreds of dollars, I'll be sure to ask the seller
"Are you stupid enough to send a valuable item without any padding or protection"
Maybe I just won't bid. Don't worry about putting me on your "do not sell to" list.
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mballai
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posted on February 22, 2001 05:54:57 PM new
digitalman
Out of context. Thanks for your attempt to slander me. All were way late or never paid/refund received. No one's money was ever kept without shipment.
What would YOU do?
You bet I neg if they don't pay!
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