posted on March 20, 2001 10:57:30 PM newsg52 - I'd say it looks just like yours
I agree, it and about 104 others before I stopped counting! In any case, I received another email from ebay trying to further explain their rule. Basically, the ebay rep told me that I could include the words Dremel and Rotozip in the description, but not in the title. This is in contrast to their first email which said that I could not include those words in the title or description.
Now, another question...if those auctions that include such keywords in the title are allowed to stand, doesn't that put me at a competitive disadvantage? How do others out there handle "selective enforcement" of the rules?
posted on March 21, 2001 05:02:04 AM new
I did a keyword search and turned up with a page of Hummels and one "Hummel-like" that probably didn't belong in the search results. That's annoying. I didn't realize eBay had a specific trademark restriction in the listing titles. That is so uptight.
posted on March 21, 2001 08:21:09 AM newricheddy,
How's that Dutch coming along?? Has eBAy pulled any of your other carbide bit auctions?
FWIW, very few truely monetarily successful businesspeople have ever gotten there by always playing by the rules....I know this to be true from personal experience in my industry.
So, you will always see people stretching the limits of eBay rules and policies to make a buck...it's part of the competitive nature of the American philosophy...
I encountered eBays selective policy enforcement a long time ago and decided that, in the interest of life not ever being fair, arguments about it were futile.
As I suggested to you further up the thread, do what is best for your business and forget about eBay....if that means following their policy to the letter, then so be it...if it means violating their keyword spamming policies, then there you go...
Really, in the final analysis, eBay will never be your friend or ask you over for a couple beers....just treat it like the electronic bulletin board it is and go on...
BTW, if this pursuit is adjunct to a RW business you own, how does it compare so far?...I'm curious...
In any event, good luck!
Pat
Success is where opportunity and preparation meet.
posted on March 21, 2001 05:35:29 PM new
camachinist - Well, the dutch auction is up and running. We'll see if I get any bidders. I did pull the words Rotozip and Dremel tool from the title, but I left them in the description--pending Ebay's response to my response to them. You are right about those that "bend" the rules a bit...those that do it and don't get caught seem to succeed. Anyway, since this is basically my first run in with ebay in a year or so of doing auctions, I was just sort of struck by it all.
Oh, by the way, the carbide bits that I sell are the by-product of my real business. I have a small manufacturing company and we use thousands of these things for high-precision work. Since we never wear these tools out in our normal processes (tolerances are too tight), I have a zillion used tools lying around. One day, a year or so ago, I decided to try to sell some on ebay. I ended up selling 5-10 kits per week at around $6-$8 per kit. It wasn't a ton of money, but, hey, it was kind of fun to get those money orders and paypal payments!
posted on March 21, 2001 06:26:29 PM new
Good luck with the Dutch's....
There's still a lot of places around where construction is booming and those zippers are the neatest thing since sliced bread...*G*
I figured as much about the bits source; either you used them in your own plant or made a deal with a plant...most likely in an industry adjunct to the electronics or plastics industries...
Still a great deal for us end users goin' to town on the drywall and wood....
I figured you would append your auctions to eBay's wishes because you were up-front about your identity here and presented your story in a very business-like manner... but I wanted to show both sides of the street as I have been on that other side occasionally...*G*
posted on March 30, 2001 11:55:57 PM new
Hi all - I just wanted to drop a note to let you all know that I just received an email from ebay that basically says that the warning that I received was sent in error. My postings were in compliance with ebay rules after all. After 20+ emails back and forth, I guess ebay got sick of me????
posted on March 31, 2001 05:35:44 AM new
I don't know diddly about router bits, but it sounds to me like the fact that it fits dremel is very important. Could be that the Ebay employee also doesn't know diddly about router bits, and if you emailed back with an explanation of why that info is important and NOT just keyword spamming, they might let it go.
In my experience, (like in getting credited for Ebay mistakes, etc.) one employee will say one thing, another will say something else. Also, asking and explaining things might make a difference.
posted on March 31, 2001 07:43:25 AM new
Maybe that auction just wasn't caught although I think Ebay is more lenient toward Powersellers. I am one of those people who regularily send in auctions that are violating some type of rule or another. I have found that items listed by Powersellers either get ignored or given "a warning" while a smaller seller actually gets the auction yanked. Ebay is not consitantly fair at any time.
posted on March 31, 2001 08:50:34 AM new
Justbj, why don't you get a life or another hobby. There are enough rules, problems and headaches without little snots nickpicking things to death.
