posted on May 29, 2001 07:11:36 AM new
Sure wish the seller would come here, so at the very least I can learn the identity and avoid her auctions in the future! I would never in my right mind (and even out of it) treat a buyer so shabbily! If I bought an item stating NWT I better get it NWT; no excuses. I should not have to defend my position as to why it is better with tags. IT IS HOW IT WAS ADVERTISED. Why is is acceptable for sellers to insist that their TOS be followed to the letter, but when their legally binding auction post advertises an item even SLIGHTLY different than what is received by the winning bidder, that's okay? If you expect buyers to abide by strict TOS, then you'd better deliver the quality as advertised.
posted on May 29, 2001 12:23:58 PM new
The buyer said:
"I wrote to the seller on Wednesday asking if she had somehow shipped the wrong item as this item had no tags as indicated in the auction listing. I asked for a full refund, as this item was misrepresented.
The buyer asked for a "FULL refund" and accused the seller of "MISREPRESENTING" the item in the first email.
If that is what the buyer did, then the seller might have replied back in the same tones as she was emailed by the buyer.
I do not know what caused the seller to say "leave me alone" in her first email to the buyer. Most sellers would not respond that way, especially in the first reply. I wonder if it was something more the buyer might have said?
I am not saying the seller was correct with her response but I would like to know more about this seller.
I have had tags come off in the store while trying on the garment. Not all tags are put on securely. I have also noticed, it does depend on the type of material the tag is attached to. With some, it does come off easier than with others.
I wonder if the seller truly didn't think the tags were all that important at the time she packaged the garment.
I for one, never realized so many people cared about tags. Some have commented on here that tags weren't a big deal to them either.
The clothing is what someone will be wearing..not the tags..unless of course you have Minnie's hat as taxicabman
mentioned.... Maybe this seller felt the same.
We have seen the emails that the seller wrote, but I don't see the emails that the buyer wrote.
We don't know if this seller has a good feedback or not. Has this happened before? What's her feedback like? Is she new to eBay? Has she a history of doing this before? Was there close-up pictures of the tag to identify the garment? I know these questions were asked before, but not answered.
posted on May 29, 2001 12:50:34 PM new
Sure there's the chance A tag might fall off,
but all tags? Generally an item of clothing will have more than one tag, the second one most often being found at some point in the middle of an evening out.
Had the tags or tag been there it would have at least given the buyer some assurance that the clothing had not been worn, with the tags missing I'd be curious just how new the item is.
There's new, and there's like new, if I pay for new it better be new.
Try telling a beanie freak tags mean nothing.
posted on May 29, 2001 01:09:46 PM new
I briefly read through all the posts. It appears to me that the original photo showed tags. The buyer is entitled to the item in the photo. If that is NOT the item the buyer received, then the seller should make it right, or have a neg coming.
Not my name on ebay.
posted on May 29, 2001 01:15:37 PM new
Trix321
You have been ripped.
Denial is thick on this board
"who gives a gift with the price on it" is only ONE indication that clothing sellers will sell the dogdirtiest piece of crap and then won't take a refund.
Tags tell me that the item is off the hanger. Original tags, not some flybynight tagging gear anyone can buy.
I mean tags that tell me if a person bought it and never wore it.
Shame on these sellers!
Do a chargeback or something through paypal.
Neg her lying a** but good. And be prepared to get a neg but, what a steaming sack, eh?
God, you can buy this stuff at St Vincent's, etc at such a cut rate!
Then take a picture with your own set of portable tags!
Trix, Neg and neg well.
Ebay is full of this kind of seller.
Worse, other clothing sellers (not so clean themselves) defend this kind of sleaze.
Neg and don't look back!
posted on May 29, 2001 01:30:30 PM new
NWT = NWT ONLY!
Not NWOT.
Not Like New.
Not Looks Like New to Me.
Not I Don't Think it Was Ever Worn.
No...you don't wear the tags. But...items with tags garner significantly higher bid prices. Items with tags can be given as gifts and represent themselves as NEW with no explanations needed! Seller will be in for a world of hurts - and IMO, feedback relating to the quality of mdse sold is more harmful to a seller's reputation than many others. I'm much more leery of someone with feedback relating to "misrepresented, not NTW, not as described, etc." than I am of someone who occasionally is a slow shipper, etc.
posted on May 29, 2001 01:44:50 PM new"who gives a gift with the price on it" is only ONE indication that clothing sellers will sell the dogdirtiest piece of crap and then won't take a refund.
Your statement made me laugh, Whistletoo, until I realized there's plenty of truth in what you say.
Some have commented on here that tags weren't a big deal to them either...Maybe this seller felt the same.
That might have been true, psalms139, were it not for the fact that the seller knew it was important enough to make sure her description mentioned it.
was there a plastic gizmo left from where tags were on the item?? If not, the seller is lying. Those things have to be cut off.
oh yeah, if you do a chargeback, do not send the item back until you see that it is confirmed and that the credit to your card is PERMANENT. I know someone who had an item misrepresented and she did a chargeback and they did a temporary credit to her account, she sent the item back, but then the credit card company reversed it for some reason and she was out of the $$$ and the item. Do not bother with paypal's 'buyer protection' thing, because they will just drag it out until it's too late to do a chargeback.
I've had 2 times where I filed for the buyer protection and never received a response past the initial form emails saying I initiated a complaint. As soon as all of my auctions saying I take paypal run out, I'm going to start just accepting checks and money orders and get rid of paypal all together. I already got rid of billpoint.
[ edited by redskinfan on May 29, 2001 02:05 PM ]
