posted on November 27, 2000 03:49:23 PM newAutomobiles used to be considered the sexual-alter egos of the men who drove them.
Uhhh...Ok, so how does that apply to females, such as myself, who take *great* pride in their cars AND their systems?
While I do understand HCQ's most recent gripe, there is something to be said for listening to good music on a good system. (Side note: if there is distortion then someone isn't doing it right).
If you have a problem with a loud neighbor try deal with the neighbor instead of getting yourself all in a dither.
posted on November 27, 2000 05:30:18 PM new
Love this thread, HCQ!
About 12 years ago two of our children, who were in their late teens, invited us to go to a Rasta (Jamaican) concert. We have always liked that sound and have visited Jamaica. Guys, we were sitting in the *balcony* and the music was so loud our ears were literally throbbing and hurting. I put my fingers in my ears and was still uncomfortable! Our kids, on the other hand, were just sitting there listening. I realized then that we are facing (soon, now) a whole generation of hearing-impaired people.
The auction I go to weekly has two loudspeakers (plus an auctioneer .) I regularly see babes in arms right in front of the speakers. Have never had the courage to warn the parents (who by the way are young and probably are hearing impaired!).
What I do in the warm weather, when what we call an urban assault vehicle pulls up, stereos booming, is to turn up my classical station as loud as I can. Gets 'em every time. They just hate it.
And rap is NOT music. Most of the time it's really vulgar "poetry" about mistreating women. I do hate it.
Last thing: when I was on our city council I successfully helped do away with the public prayer that started each meeting. We're in Utah so you KNOW what kind of prayer it was, 9 times out of ten. The argument that worked best was that, while there's nothing wrong with prayer per se, public prayer is forcing everyone to listen to what you yourself care about--just like boom boxes.
I don't understand parents who let their kids get those roving speakers to drive around in.
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posted on November 27, 2000 07:53:01 PM new
The loud music in your neighbor's driveway is only a symptom of a larger, more widespread problem -- the death of consideration for other people.
I don't know why, but many people seem to feel it's within their rights to leave their dogs outside barking all day, to use power tools on their back porches at 10 pm at night, and, most of all, to blast their music any damn time they please no matter who else has to listen to it. It wasn't like this when I was growing up, but it is now.
I like music a lot (heavy metal, mostly), but I hate having to listen to somebody else's music thumping through my walls or shrieking through my open windows on a warm day. I never blast my music so that my neighbors can hear it. Sure, there are times when I feel like cranking it up, but the impulse is outweighed by my concern that it might disturb my neighbors' peaceful enjoyment of their homes and yards. Likewise, I don't let my dog bark uncontrollably outside. If he starts up, I either quiet him down or bring him inside.
I firmly believe that everyone has a right to peace of mind in their homes. I want people to respect my rights, so I respect theirs.
HCQ, if I were your position, I'd have a friendly chat with your neighbor to see if he/she could ask the son to turn off the radio when he comes to visit. Be honest. Tell them you can hear it inside your house and it gets on your nerves. Once you bring it to their attention, most people are pretty amenable to such requests (because deep down they know that you're right). But if you don't say anything they'll remain oblivious to your needs, or else they'll decide that it mustn't bother you.
posted on November 27, 2000 08:33:08 PM newIt wasn't like this when I was growing up,
Ok, where do I start? Something along the lines of, "Well, of course not! Back then they were still working on the wheel! ".
Or should I ask, "How deep was the snow you had to walk through to get to the town radio?" (To which you respond: Chest high!! AND I had to walk uphill BOTH ways!!)
You are correct about the consideration. I'm lucky, I live in the middle of 20 acres so don't offend the rest of the block with my blasting.
posted on November 28, 2000 04:41:03 AM new
Oh, I've had that "friendly chat" countless times, and each time it's like I never asked them before: they get this really surprised look and blankly comply, but no "jeez, sorry, I didn't realize" even in the most offhand way. (Hey, I don't CARE whether they're sorry. I just want my dishes to stop rattling.) I have to think it honestly doesn't occur to them that they're doing anything that would disturb, because they probably don't even know they're doing it - kind of like somebody that says "you know" every third word.
Like you, spazmodeous, I take the time to think before I act: Is this going to infringe on anybody else's "right to peaceful enjoyment"? Before we moved into Hart Cottage we did rehab on it for 6 months. We'd get here before 6, but didn't lift a hammer before at least 8:30 or 9 because we wanted to be good neighbors. Clearly it wouldn't have mattered
posted on November 28, 2000 09:44:06 PM new
Lotsafuzz,
2nd and 3rd harmonic distortion is actually cherished amoung musicans and audiophiles to a certain degree. It makes a warm sound pleasing to the ear. What youre refering to is known as "clipping", when an amplifier is driven beyond it's ability to deliver an adequate amount of power. Think of a water tank where the amount of water drawn is beyond the refill rate, and it momentarily goes dry. Some distortion is good. Clipping is Bad.
One person that comes into my store maintains one of the subwoofermobiles and the low hertz sounds vibrates some portion of metal in his car. The sound is so horrendous, it's funny. He thinks it's cool to leave it playing while he's in the store (the hate and filth rap)..He also wears his pants down with the seat down around his knees. One just wants to say "Sir,why advertise what a *DA* your are?"..I digress.
posted on November 29, 2000 06:50:07 AM new
My college boyfriend had his pickup outfitted with one of those mind-numbing speaker systems. I have to admit, there are a few songs that sound great when they are booming that thud-thud through your whole body. But, that was 8 years ago, I could not stand to ride around in that low riding pickup for one minute today.
Is there a better song then Seger's Night Moves? It reminds me of summer nights, drinking beer someone's friend of a friend bought, and hitting the backroads. sigh.....
posted on November 29, 2000 11:39:09 PM new
NOBS : I'm with you !! I "Love that Old Time Rock N Roll"!
Windows down, music cranked, wind in my hair and once again life is good! BUT as for that BaSs PoUnDiNg demoralizing JUNK from the car next to me.... I'm working on a device that will enable the person in the car next to them to remotely change their "ICK" to something a bit more pleasant... Maybe some "Eagles Greatest Hits" ??
Then ..... once again ..... life will be good. hee hee hee
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posted on November 30, 2000 09:35:08 AM newIBBeckyB ... and I adore The Eagles Greatest Hits!
Spaz
I know you made the post 3 days ago (the one about consideration and the lack thereof) and I want to say Bravo, I agree 1000% with your observation. I live between 4 large barking dogs and it is mind numbing at times. The owners will lock them out all day (no matter what the weather) on their decks and the barking can go non stop. We have asked them nicely but they just do it again and again. One bitterly cold day I called the polica after listening to several hours of non stop barking and the police told them that they were breaking the law and if they received another complaint a ticket would be issued. well, in less then 2 weeks they did it again.
My choice is to either live with it or constantly call the police (which I won't do) so I have decided to move and sell my townhouse after 12 years - of course, that will take me some time so I am going to have to deal with it until then.
I don't know what it is but I have the most inconsiderate neighbors (they all bought their homes less than 2 years ago) now, and it used to be different. I have always been considerate of others and raised my children to be considerate of others. I don't like this "Hooray for me and f___ you" attitude.
I wanna move to a rural little hamlet in NH where attitudes are different.
posted on November 30, 2000 09:48:15 AM new
The loose pants crack me up. A few years back when I lived in the Caribbean, a teenager with them on comes into a fast food resturant during the lunch rush. He leans over the counter to flirt with the girl, and the pants fall around his feet. Even the police there were ROTFL!
posted on November 30, 2000 07:55:23 PM new
Thought about this topic today when I received my AC/DC Back in Black CD in the mail.
There really *IS* music that should ONLY be played loud.
thermionic: A poster after my own heart. Haven't had a discussion on harmonic distortion since I quit band and stopped hanging out with the music majors!!
.) I regularly see babes in arms right in front of the speakers. Have never had the courage to warn the parents (who by the way are young and probably are hearing impaired!).
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