posted on November 29, 2000 09:53:19 PM"Bad makeup is a sure indicator of bad politics. If nothing else, Kathleen Harris has taught that to the country."
I admire K. Harris and Janet Reno, while I might not vote for them as prom queen I don't think that has anything to do with them making hard decisions and sticking with them.
posted on November 29, 2000 10:19:26 PM
NaaaaNaaaaaa, we have Hilary and we are making her serve us for the full 6 years.
God this looks bad...but I gotta agree with Katy and donny. I don't think it matters though...I think the win has been bought and paid for. I think Bush will come out the president, no matter what hs to be done to obtain that end.
Hi Ken...you still ceamin?
Now I am gone again.
**Disclaimer: If I appear arguementive, then I probably am just being a #*!@ today. It comes & goes. C.
posted on November 29, 2000 10:46:23 PM
A lot of people admired Charlie McCarthy for his elocution. The dimwits really thought he was doing the talking.
posted on November 30, 2000 02:00:01 PM
Frankly, If Bush had rigged the election in Florida, it wouldnt have been this close. We have a system of elections in this country, and it is not perfect. Votes get tossed out in all states in all elections. Bush won the first, second, and SELECTIVE manuel recounts and still won. How many counts do you get! If this drags on too long the legislature has the responsiblility to step in and name their own electors. The people of Florida elected them, and they must do what they have to do,if it comes to that.
posted on November 30, 2000 02:10:19 PMIf this drags on too long the legislature has the responsiblility to step in and name their own electors. The people of Florida elected them, and they must do what they have to do,if it comes to that.
Last time I checked, we live in a democracy, not a fascist state. The legislature's responsibility is to represent the will of the people, not to void their vote, because it might not fulfill "their" political agenda.
The people of Florida elected them, and they must do what they have to do,if it comes to that.
This is really scary. Hello? This is the USA, not Hitler Germany.
KatyD
[ edited by KatyD on Nov 30, 2000 02:11 PM ]
posted on November 30, 2000 02:15:57 PM
If the courts can't settle the dispute before the electorial college election and the legislature doesn't send their own electors, then what happens?
posted on November 30, 2000 02:34:19 PM
It would probably end up in Congress. Theoretically, I suppose that when the Electoral College meets to cast their votes, if there is no electoral slate from Florida, the candidate with the largest number of electoral votes (Gore) could be adjudged the winner. But I don't believe there is precedent for this, and regardless, when Congress meets to count the votes sometime in January, they will have a majority vote in the House and a majority vote in the Senate to settle the vote. The House majority will be Republican, and the Senate majority will almost certainly be Democrat, but by an extremely slim margin. There are a couple of still contested seats that need to be determined, and it is possible that the Senate will be split 50/50. Who casts the deciding vote in a tied Senate? The Vice-President (Al Gore). So unless some party member break ranks to break a deadlock, who knows how it will be decided. There is precedent for Congress deciding the President which is what happened with Rutherford Hayes, but remember that was only achieved by breaking a deadlock. If neither party representatives are willing to break ranks, I suppose it could go to the Supreme Court. Actually, when we hear the Courts ruling next week on Bush's petition, we may get a feeling about how the US Supreme Court is going to lean in this regard. My best educated guess is that they will rule in favor of Bush, in the fact that they agreed to hear the case at all. Now watch, I'll post this lengthy explanation, and somebody else will have already posted the whole thing before me.
posted on November 30, 2000 03:05:52 PM
That is what I thought. So in other words it would be beneficial for the democrats to tie things up in court indefinately and to fight the Florida legislature in the US Supreme Court from sending electors.
posted on November 30, 2000 03:21:13 PM
No, inside. That is NOT what I said. I was describing to you the process for which there is precedent to determine this Presidential election. There is NO precedent for the Florida Legislature to void the Florida votes and appoint their own slate of electors.
As for the resolution of the election ending up in Congress, I actually DO NOT think it will be "beneficial to the Democrats". To the contrary, it will in all probability be beneficial to the Republicans. You must remember that at best, the Senate will have a slim majority of maybe one or two, while the House's Republican majority will be maybe 8 or 10. At worst, the Senate will be split down the middle with NO majority. I think it is likely that there would be a breaking of ranks within the Democrats before you will see it in the Republicans. In fact, one Democratic senator (forgot the name) from Indiana has already called upon Gore to concede in the interests of national unity. Ha! But regardless, my personal feeling is that it won't get to Congress. Should the US Supreme Court side with the Bush lawyers, I think we'll see Gore stand down. But that is my personal opinion. Regardless, is a legislative act voiding YOUR vote "okay" with you, if it means that your political candidate wins? I certainly hope not, because it would be setting a precedent for YOU to be on the short end of the stick the "next time around".
posted on November 30, 2000 03:38:25 PM" Should the US Supreme Court side with the Bush lawyers, I think we'll see Gore stand down."
I can't swear to it but when asked about the US supreme court possibly ruling that the Florida supreme court had acted improper Gore skated around the question and would only repeat the mantra "we just want every vote counted"* I didn't get the impression Gore would do anything more than continue to prolong the fight to get more votes for Gore or get votes for Bush disqualified. I hope you're right and Gore will concede if the US supreme court sides with Bush, I have my doubts.
posted on November 30, 2000 03:44:15 PM
Actually I do not want the legislature or the court or congress voiding my vote. I want everyone to follow the rules as they are laid out when an election begins. If I am not happy with the rules, I want the opportunity to change the rules before the next election.
Who ever is elected will have my support as a citizen of this great country. I might question how they got the office but with an election this close, either one is obviously the choice of every other person I pass.
[ edited by inside on Nov 30, 2000 03:46 PM ]
