nefish
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:26:48 PM new
From the Announcement Board:
***New Feature Coming Soon: Checkout***
In late October, we will be introducing a new feature that will make trading on eBay even easier: Checkout.
Checkout is a new, free option for sellers and buyers that will help provide an easy and consistent way to complete sales and purchases. Checkout will save time and cut down on the amount of email after a sale.
Sellers may use Checkout when listing an item to provide details such as shipping and handling, insurance and sales tax along with accepted payment methods. When the listing ends, buyers will know the total price and can use Checkout to provide their shipping address and pay via the seller's chosen and accepted payment methods.
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[ edited by nefish on Oct 1, 2001 01:27 PM ]
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computerboy
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:32:20 PM new
I got 10 bucks that Paypal will not be one of the payment methods that ebay incorporates into this checkout feature. Just Billpoint.
Anyone want me?
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undercovers
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:34:17 PM new
STEP 2: you will be required to take billpoint
Step 3: you will no longer be allowed to email ANY users either inside or outside of ebay and they will disable any semblace (sp) of that feature by erasing all email addy's
step 4: hopefully we all will be long gone and won't have to listen to this bs from this gestapo mentality...
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Eventer
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:43:21 PM new
Hmmm, if you already accept BP instant on-line, I don't see how this is much of a change???
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undercovers
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:47:22 PM new
the problem is....that we will only be allowed to use billpoint and nothing else...
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Eventer
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:49:54 PM new
Then don't use the checkout option.
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tomwiii
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:50:29 PM new
YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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gs4
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posted on October 1, 2001 01:59:31 PM new
'seller's chosen and accepted payment methods.'
So where does it say billpoint only????
Im going to wait and see what they will come up with before I jump up and down.
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sun818
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:03:24 PM new
They're going in the right direction with this. Providing a consistent space for s&h will make it easier for the buyer to judge total cost. This will help all the sellers that charge near actual shipping to be competitive with sellers that gouge. Now only if eBay would list the s&h charge on the browsing screen...
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midwestmagazines
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posted on October 1, 2001 02:23:48 PM new
Looks like Paypal and Ebay are going to be going in different directions....
Could it be paypal's opening an auction site, as ebay forces them out?
Midwest Magazines
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ahc3
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posted on October 1, 2001 03:30:36 PM new
This certainly is an interesting development. More ways for ebay to keep a share of the pie. I can see that this might be convenient to use, but I doubt ebay will go all the way into a half.com. Don't forget, a lot of buyers out there will NOT use debit cards or credit cards online. If they went to a system where that was required, buyers would leave, and sellers would leave, and it would be a downward spiral. I am sure this move is to compete with Paypal, but I would not look for Ebay to become half.com anytime soon
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sun818
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posted on October 1, 2001 04:02:35 PM new
Will eBay calculate S&H as part of the Final Value Fee in the future? After all, they are providing us this service...
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hwahwahwahwa
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posted on October 1, 2001 04:22:17 PM new
will not work for international bidders?
this is just a seller option,ebay has too many sellers and too many categories-e motors?
bidder travels to site to inpsect the motor before forking over a cashier check
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kiawok
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posted on October 1, 2001 04:53:24 PM new
Can international buyers use Checkout on www.eBay.com listings?
Yes, international buyers can use Checkout on www.ebay.com listings. When going through
Checkout, buyers will provide their shipping address to their sellers, and the sellers can email the buyers the final price.
Huh?
This sounds like a great idea for American sellers that only sell to fellow Americans, AND quote a fixed shipping price on every auction, but for the rest of us it amounts to a bucket of warm spit.
Nice work eBay!
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twinsoft
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posted on October 1, 2001 04:55:22 PM new
eBay should cut out the crap and bill bidders directly upon auction close. Don't have a credit card? Don't play. Sorry, but I lose hundreds of dollars plus hours each month chasing after personal checks that don't arrive. This week I got a bounced check for $8.98. The only problem with Billpoint is the per-use fee, otherwise I'd join in a second.
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kiawok
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posted on October 1, 2001 05:39:58 PM new
Twinsoft - I'm sorry to hear about the bounced checks, AND the number of deadbeat problems you have, but FORCING all bidders to register/pay with a CC is NOT the answer.
Your so called solution would cause me to lose hundreds of $$$ each month, if not more.
You don't want bounced checks, simple, don't accept them & make all your bidders pay with a CC, but please leave the rest of us to accept the forms of payment that work best for us.
The last thing we need is eBay telling bidders that they can only pay with a CC.
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BJGrolle
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posted on October 1, 2001 06:56:59 PM new
I've been reading through the instructions and I'm not altogether certain whether this is a good or a bad thing.
It looks as though they've designed it to allow for sellers like myself who offer a choice of shipping methods. But doing so depends on the buyer to input the correct shipping amount for the method they choose. Which could lead to errors... Which could lead to more sellers offering only one method of shipping to avoid such errors if they determine they enjoy the checkout features enough to continue using it...
You can tell I've got mixed feelings about this one...
http://bjgrolle.freehomepage.com
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Eventer
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posted on October 1, 2001 07:05:45 PM new
If there's a way to screw it up, trust that ebay will.
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StormThinker
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posted on October 1, 2001 07:07:23 PM new
BJGrolle,
Trust me. This is a bad thing.
This is part of eBay's master plan to eventually cut off all email communications between buyer and seller (a la Half.com), to limit seller flexibility in shipping unusual items, and to ban their PayPal competitor from eBay.
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mballai
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posted on October 1, 2001 07:41:42 PM new
This is really no different than the BP thing. But there's no doubt this is going to half.com style.
While I enjoy communicating with my bidders, it is more expedient to get a "Paid" email and pack and ship. You can ship a lot more stuff in a lot less time. Schmoozing costs money.
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commentary
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posted on October 1, 2001 08:04:16 PM new
Buyers don't read. How can one expect them to choose the proper shipping and cost?
Also, what happens on lot consolidations? Does this mean one cannot make multiple purchases and still expect consolidated shipping?
How can you compute shipping if USPS decides to raise priority mail and make it more of a zone rate?
What happens if you use UPS or FedEx and need to calculate shipping?
Don't see how this system can work for every kind of item. Maybe some things will be okay.
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shoshanah
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posted on October 1, 2001 08:07:16 PM new
So, it will soon end up being part of the "Half.com" thingy...They wont charge a listing fee...they will just take 15% of the final value 
Still, it does say "free option for sellers and buyers"....
I cannot see where it would make much sense...Many sellers list the shipping cost right in their listings already...
Gosh Shosh
Pottery Restoration
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franko122
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posted on October 1, 2001 09:33:35 PM new
1.) I'm sure it wont support paypal
2.) it's only gonna be free long enough to drive Andale and AuctionWatch out of business. That is their bread and butter ladies and gents.
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franko122
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posted on October 1, 2001 09:50:36 PM new
And obviously this is gonna hurt PayPal too. Ouch. I wish they woulda announced this after the stock was already trading so I could short the heck out of it!!!!
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quickdraw29
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posted on October 1, 2001 11:53:51 PM new
"...pay via the seller's chosen and accepted payment methods."
Sounds like paypal will be allowed!
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StormThinker
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posted on October 2, 2001 01:58:54 AM new
Yes, PayPal will be allowed (at least for the first year), but your customer will only see the following choices:
1) "Visa/MC" (aka BillPoint)
2) "Electronic Check" (aka BillPoint)
3) "Check/Money Order"
4) "Other"
So your customer will have to be smart enough to know that "Other" means PayPal. You as a seller will not be allowed to make up a descriptive name for the "Other" choice. It will just say "Other". You won't be able to add a choice that says "PayPal".
This is of course by design. Hurting PayPal is one of eBay's primary mission objectives right now. That's why the stupid AFA program was created.
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tomwiii
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posted on October 2, 2001 02:02:56 AM new
Time to checkout from feeBay!
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gravid
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posted on October 2, 2001 04:33:17 AM new
If it gets too complicated I will offer one price shipping included and bypass the whole mess.
If PayPal and eBay get in a big struggle I will list on both and let the customers pick where they want to buy. I will go anywhere the customers are.
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paintpower
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posted on October 2, 2001 04:43:47 AM new
Looks like an accident looking for a place to happen! Buyers can't even answer a simple email asking for their address. How can we expect them to fill out this form correctly? What happens with buyers who win multiple auctions as shipping would be all messed up. Another step by Ebay to have total control. You would also have to depend on the buyer to enter the correct insurance amount. I could not enter anything for shipping as I sell magazines that ship BPM and I need the buyer's zip code to figure the shipping. Buyers will think they've paid by filling out this form and sellers will be waiting for payment. Also not good to start something new like this right before the Christmas selling season. What about international buyers who go ahead and enter the US shipping amount you've indicated and then expect their item to be shipped for that? I see BIG TROUBLE in the crystal ball!
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BJGrolle
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posted on October 2, 2001 05:32:05 AM new
StormThinker,
Could be, could be.
If sellers experiment with this new system and determine they like it, I foresee many more sellers going to fixed rate shipping, even though it presents a risk of a significant overcharge for some customers, just to be able to "fit the system".
And then, of course, will come a new string of threads about sellers overcharging on shipping...
http://bjgrolle.freehomepage.com
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